Flue Cured carts/Juice?

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When I had my E9, everyone seemed to have a Flue Cured flavor cartomizer, but no one seems to have it for the KR808/VK, this is disappointing.

I really liked the flavor (tasted like Count Chocula to me) are there any plans to have this flavor available for the VK?

Hi

Sorry for lack of response, been trying to Chill out a couple days.8-o

I will order some for you in the near future. I do have another brand of liquid, I would be more than happy to toss in, on your next order:p

Please, keep the suggestions coming.

Steve:cool:
 

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When I had my E9, everyone seemed to have a Flue Cured flavor cartomizer, but no one seems to have it for the KR808/VK, this is disappointing.

I really liked the flavor (tasted like Count Chocula to me) are there any plans to have this flavor available for the VK?

I tried flu cured Dekang in a 901 and in a cartomizer. It tasted like deep fried monkey .... with some day old half smoked cigar thrown in. it was easily the foulest thing i ever vaped or tried to.

I thought it was just me, so I let my sister try it. She literally *blanched*.

Taste is a very subjective thing, but I still can't believe that flavor exists. Man if it had tasted like Count Chocula" to me, I'd have hogged the whole bottle myself instead of trying to find a skunk to lick to get the taste out of my mouth.

To be clear: You actually liked "Flu Cured tobacco=brand Dekang"? I freakin love Dekang, but that flavor...man I could go on and on. Yuck! haha.
 

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I tried flu cured Dekang in a 901 and in a cartomizer. It tasted like deep fried monkey .... with some day old half smoked cigar thrown in. it was easily the foulest thing i ever vaped or tried to.

I thought it was just me, so I let my sister try it. She literally *blanched*.

Taste is a very subjective thing, but I still can't believe that flavor exists. Man if it had tasted like Count Chocula" to me, I'd have hogged the whole bottle myself instead of trying to find a skunk to lick to get the taste out of my mouth.

To be clear: You actually liked "Flu Cured tobacco=brand Dekang"? I freakin love Dekang, but that flavor...man I could go on and on. Yuck! haha.


:D Goes to prove how subjective taste can be.
Flue-Cured is my main vape, can do it all day. It's my favorite. 2nd fav is Ry4 or Caramel..
Not crazy about the fruity flavors( go figure that one)
When I first started I got all the fruity flavors because I thought I'd love them the most but It's been the opposite.
 

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Got the Juice that steve threw in, Good news/Bad news: Good news is that it does not taste like deep fried Monkey .... with day old cigar, Bad news is that it doesn't taste like Count-Chocula either. It's a good vape but not what I've been jonsing for... Anybody know of a flavor that could be mistaken for Count Chocula? is there such a thing as a chocolate marshmallow flavor? If there's not, there really should be... the box was marked flue cured, but I'm thinking now that it was mismarked... if anyone has any ideas, I'm open to suggestions. :) Thanks again, Steve!
 

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Got the Juice that steve threw in, Good news/Bad news: Good news is that it does not taste like deep fried Monkey .... with day old cigar, Bad news is that it doesn't taste like Count-Chocula either. It's a good vape but not what I've been jonsing for... Anybody know of a flavor that could be mistaken for Count Chocula? is there such a thing as a chocolate marshmallow flavor? If there's not, there really should be... the box was marked flue cured, but I'm thinking now that it was mismarked... if anyone has any ideas, I'm open to suggestions. :) Thanks again, Steve!

If it had an overpowering tobacco taste that kinda lingers...and tastes like youre smokin a month old horse plop after that horse grazed on cigar tobacco...then thats really flu cured.

In all seriousness the tobacco flavor was overwhelming when i tried it...Imagine a scale of tobacco flavors where Hilton (weak) is kinda tobaccish, then camel, then marlboro (although some of the marlboro ive tried i liked..some i didn't) then at the very end, where the tobacco "aftertaste" is like tobacco leaves soaked in water and used as mouthwash...thats flu cured.

You have really gotta love tobacco absolute extract concentrated to a consistancy of pitch to love flu cured.

Now count chocula...My sister mentioned that one. it was an actual chocolate flavor made by Top-Rol (not dekang) and I havn't tried Dekang's chocolate. I don't think she has either. Insofar as flavors go, Dekang seems to make the best, and thats what (as i understand it) VK cartomizers use.

Therefor, I would strongly advise you to try the chocolate cartomizer flavor on V4L, and get the lowest nic content you can use...as we all know the more nic it has the weaker the flavor comes across. I cant survive without at least 24, and i sometimes use 36 in the morn or after a meal to keep my boat from sinkin'. I could probably vape all day on 16-18 or so if i really tried...but i've not really tried.

Seriously try a chocolate flavored one, you'll be glad you did.

As far as "marshmallows" goes....ive heard RY4 described as "burnt marshmallows"...referring to the ones you toast over a fire..its a unique taste. I've also heard it described by the wife as "very cigarettey, and I dont try to describe it at all. It's a love it or hate it flavor, but its certainly not count chocula.
 
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wow, that's kinda funny, my tobaccoey scale is almost the opposite of yours.. I put Marlboro at a 1, then Virginia (havent' tried V4L virginia yet) then Hilton then Camel. The flue cured steve sent I don't know where I'd put it on that scale, but it's definately a cigar tobacco instead of a cigarette tobacco.

I've had the V4L CHocolate, and I agree that it is the best choc I've tried and I'm really looking forward to his vanilla as Greensmoke is the current crownholder there...

Still trying to find out what the count chocula flavor was, though. It was and unmistakable flavor, not a "kinda tastes like...", but I think e-cig has a lot of unintentional flavors, their Pinapple tasted EXACTLY like garlic rolls (the ones with a TON of butter sauce and chunks of garlic) to me- there were a few flavors like that. and since V4L is one of the few brands that marks the flavors on the carts, all it said on the cart is "High".

I'll find it sooner or later...
 

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wow, that's kinda funny, my tobaccoey scale is almost the opposite of yours.. I put Marlboro at a 1, then Virginia (havent' tried V4L virginia yet) then Hilton then Camel. The flue cured steve sent I don't know where I'd put it on that scale, but it's definately a cigar tobacco instead of a cigarette tobacco.

I've had the V4L CHocolate, and I agree that it is the best choc I've tried and I'm really looking forward to his vanilla as Greensmoke is the current crownholder there...

Still trying to find out what the count chocula flavor was, though. It was and unmistakable flavor, not a "kinda tastes like...", but I think e-cig has a lot of unintentional flavors, their Pinapple tasted EXACTLY like garlic rolls (the ones with a TON of butter sauce and chunks of garlic) to me- there were a few flavors like that. and since V4L is one of the few brands that marks the flavors on the carts, all it said on the cart is "High".

I'll find it sooner or later...

you have got to be kidding? what did you vape just preivous to the pineapple? wow.

Clearly people are all not wired the same between the brain and the taste-buds haha.
 

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you have got to be kidding? what did you vape just preivous to the pineapple? wow.

Clearly people are all not wired the same between the brain and the taste-buds haha.


HA! I wish I were kidding... I ordered the Uber sampler from ecig.com which is supposed to have 28 different flavors, I got probably 10 flavors that were not obvious flavors, some of the boxes were marked correctly, some not, some boxes were mixed, some were 5 of the same flavor... I'm about 90% sure that the garlic roll flavor was pineapple, because the juice that sputtered out of the mouthpiece was pinapple-ish in flavor. I'm judging the count chocula because the 2 boxes I had were marked flue cured... there was also a flavor that tasted like a chinese resturant smells... needless to say, it was an interesting week or 2 before I bought my VK after that (which was actually a mistake because I thought the VK carts were compatible with the E9), the price on the VK was by my math (including hassle time) cheaper than sending the incompatible carts back. I'm happy to say it was a very appealing mistake! I think I still have some of those carts around the house... I think I wrote "feet" on one of the boxes as well, because that's what it tasted like.
 

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HA! I wish I were kidding... I ordered the Uber sampler from ecig.com which is supposed to have 28 different flavors, I got probably 10 flavors that were not obvious flavors, some of the boxes were marked correctly, some not, some boxes were mixed, some were 5 of the same flavor... I'm about 90% sure that the garlic roll flavor was pineapple, because the juice that sputtered out of the mouthpiece was pinapple-ish in flavor. I'm judging the count chocula because the 2 boxes I had were marked flue cured... there was also a flavor that tasted like a chinese resturant smells... needless to say, it was an interesting week or 2 before I bought my VK after that (which was actually a mistake because I thought the VK carts were compatible with the E9), the price on the VK was by my math (including hassle time) cheaper than sending the incompatible carts back. I'm happy to say it was a very appealing mistake! I think I still have some of those carts around the house... I think I wrote "feet" on one of the boxes as well, because that's what it tasted like.

I might have misread. "E-cig" pineapple...i see. I've not tried their pineapple. I tried dekang pineapple in a 901 (tasted like pineapple upside down cake) and V4L's take on pineapple via prefilled cartomizers..which to me tasted like fresh pineapple rather than cooked canned pineapple rings roasted to a well-done-ness.

"Feet" and "tasted like a chinese resturant smells... "...damn now you got me curious...

You're aware they have roast beef and ramen noodle flavor's of E-juice right? maybe you got kung-pow chicken or Sweet and sour pork...maybe "Flied-Lice" or one of those unusual flavors got sneaked into your box by mistake?

All flavors are not created equal, i'm vapin some Top-Rol (i presume..and i'm usually right) cola right now that tastes exactly like soda pop....A flat can of day old generic cola in fact LOL.. I don't think it's possible to capture the "fizz" of cola in a cartomizer...but if you lick the inside of a soda cap..thats the flavor :/ Glad it was a 10ml bottle and not a gallon bulk jug of that. To think i wasted an empty cartomizer on that one yeesh.

Top-Rol's peach on the other hand tastes like these little funny lookin peaches our trees used to make growin up on the farm. Not those big fat peaches you buy at the fruit stand...the little shrunken mini peaches that are like all seed and no peach you get on trees that are utterly untended ...its good... but not the big juicy peach you expect...and again this is NOT a V4L flavor.

If i get anything interesting in the mail soon, I'll let ya know how those are, although i've never tried any of e-cig's stuff for comparison.
 

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You're not missing anything :)

Have you tried the V4L Cola? to me, it was almost uncanny Coca Cola flavored, and it tastes like it has fizz...

no i have not, which is why i was certain to point out that the flavors i mentioned were not V4L...am anxious to try a few new cartomizers from V4L in fact.

Now the real question is...if they've got "roast beef" and "ramen noodles" juices out there...

How long is it till Steve comes up with "Steak and Baked potato with home made rolls"?

Lets face it, he wouldnt settle for some crap like "Ramen Noodles" LOL!
 

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I'm all about steak and potatos... either that or Tomato soup, Roast Beef and Blueberry pie... call it Wonka

I think that some flavors are going to be impossible to capture, whereas others are going to be super easy. Single simple flavors for instance will be easy.

Butterscotch for instance. I tried some butterscotch..that was some awesome vape right there, and as i typed it, my brain remembered how it tasted...guess it was pretty good my mouth is watering now *drooooool*

Blueberry: Almost has to be easy to capture. just have to watch it with some fruit flavors however...the more acidic they are the harder they are on you. take lemon or citrus in general...wham!

Roast beef: if they can make a flavor packet for ramen noodles thats beef flavored..they can make this..so i presume the roast beef juice ive seen for sale is at least close enough to recognize as beef broth, and hopefully closer to roast beef.

BBQ and Smoke (like cooking meat over a spit)...am i kidding? nope, i saw those flavors. in fact I'm considering tryin them...wonder if they have a BBQ cheeseburger? drool...

Then there's the combos...Yes you can combine a couple of simple strong flavors and occasionally get a win.
Thin mints, Maple (maple and tobacco..i duno why those go together well but omg they do) and vanilla goes with like...anything... I wonder if you could mix vanilla, chocolate, and cherry and make "Chocolate covered cherry"? My dad used to be big on gettin us kids all a box or 10 of those for Christmas each and every Christmas regardless of what else we were getting..it was a guaranteed thing.

Combos that dont work well are flavors that dont normally occur together, or flavors that dont compliment each other. Such flavors would be things like Beef stew, or Tossed salad, or any other group of flavors that when mixed lose their individuality.

Many people have preconceived notions of what a flavor *should* taste like, then discover that the flavor they get is not precicely what they had in mind when they try it. Some fruit flavors taste more like medicine fruit flavoring than candy or pie filling flavors for instance.

One last thing no one seems to realize is that flavor is translated differently through a cartomizer than it is through another device...like a 510 or 901.

A 901 belts out flavor but the nicotine hit seems somehow diminished. A 510 is a little harsher, with more "throat hit" if youre into that sort of thing, but diminished on flavor. A cartomizer seems to more fully atomize the liquid, probably due to the "through the atomizer/cart" design rather than boiling the liquid on a surface then hoping it makes it to little air holes on the sides of the same cart that is holding the liquid.

A Vapor King atomizes liquid throughout the length of the cartridge filler, and as such atomizes a greater volume of liquid at a time. Oddly enough the taste is "different" with all other things being equal (same liquid).

As a result, the liquid has to be customized for the carts, so that they translate properly to the taste that was intended. Some flavors of e-liquid work wonderfully just the way they are in a cartomizer...but they *always* taste different between a cartomizer and a 901 or 510 atty.

Right now Steve is working with the manufacturer to "adjust" the flavors so that they translate more properly to cartomizer atomization.

This will almost certainly mean that the flavors will be closer to a 901 in taste, closer to a 510 in vapor production, and be much better in overall performance.

Just like a high performance car, some things need to be "tuned" for maximum performance. It's my opinion that the cartomizer design is one of those things...and requires the juice to be tuned to it's unique atomization method. If what Steve says is true, the new run of cartomizers we have on the way are going to jar us a bit considering what were used to...which is, in effect...standard atomizer tuned sauce in a cartomizer...kinda like low grade unleaded in a hot rod...

I can't wait to run *my* hot-rod on some aviation fuel for a change.
 

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okay, Mr. Chemist man, where's my Count Chocula? or maybe Cheerios, I need to lower my cholesterol...

I got it! you want a to lower your cholesterol? I got just the flavor for you! Rice cake!

Mix 100% USP VG with a cartomizer! there you go! Rice cake!...also makes a great drink coaster!

I'll ask my sis about count chocula, she had it pegged while back. She's the chemist.
 
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