Focalecig chat...Part 2

[Nikkita6]

Yeeessss...but if its garbage you can't use, so what? A waste of time and money. If they all work well, then it will be a different story.

So far, from blowing up the photos and studying the machining, the Robbot is the only one thus far released that appears decent. I don't know yet though, of course. IF I were to buy one at this time, I would choose the Robbot based on what I see in the photos.

We know Nikki has the Robbot on its way. You buy one of the others, and we'll find out how they compare

I just remember buying the first, and cheapest SquapeR that came out. We call him Chucky . There's a reason. $28 and hours of my time, and he's in a box in the cupboard. Had I waited and spent $40 I could have had the EHPro clone, which does work. So, basically I flushed $28 and then some in all the parts I bought trying to fix it down the toilet. I would've been much better off spending $40 and having a working clone.

You are so pro Roxy, blowing up photos an all .. that harsh, extreme white light just makes everything look cheap IMO. If DHL delivers mine before dark, then I will at least post some break down photos so you all can get a better look at it.

 

[KTMRider]

I agreee too Nikki

I haven`t had one of these in my hand, but these manufacturers didn`t attract negative attention afaik - if I trust a few chinese manufacturers, these are the ones. We`ll see and I will compare it with the original.

The pics look quite good and the spring seems to be stronger than the original spring - what`s not bad, even if it is not the same material. I guess, in case of the used materials, we will never get a 1:1 clone.

The $23 version I ordered from FT looks better than the other 2 they have. Sufie did confirm that it was made with 304 SS. Still don't know the manufacturer though

Yeeessss...but if its garbage you can't use, so what? A waste of time and money. If they all work well, then it will be a different story.

So far, from blowing up the photos and studying the machining, the Robbot is the only one thus far released that appears decent. I don't know yet though, of course. IF I were to buy one at this time, I would choose the Robbot based on what I see in the photos.

We know Nikki has the Robbot on its way. You buy one of the others, and we'll find out how they compare

I just remember buying the first, and cheapest SquapeR that came out. We call him Chucky . There's a reason. $28 and hours of my time, and he's in a box in the cupboard. Had I waited and spent $40 I could have had the EHPro clone, which does work. So, basically I flushed $28 and then some in all the parts I bought trying to fix it down the toilet. I would've been much better off spending $40 and having a working clone.

I got shinyitis and ordered from FT but will probably pick up one from EHPro. My 3 EHPro KFL's are awesome. Better than the Infinite KFL.

 

[nelsonm64]

hey all,

so, to my surprise I received a refund from "Gearbest" for the kayfun 4 I ordered it only took them 24 hours, i'm shocked after all the bad things I heard after I ordered from them now, I'm going to take one for the team and order the Robbot K4 bit more money but, if the pic is correct and it does come with that beefy silver spring it will be worth the premium price

 

[Pclarity]

Lol. My mini shipped this morning which means I'll probably get it around the same time as the Cloupor Mini (unless that ships tomorrow as rumor suggests). Too funny.

 

[jbarrick]

I just remember buying the first, and cheapest SquapeR that came out. We call him Chucky . There's a reason. $28 and hours of my time, and he's in a box in the cupboard. Had I waited and spent $40 I could have had the EHPro clone, which does work. So, basically I flushed $28 and then some in all the parts I bought trying to fix it down the toilet. I would've been much better off spending $40 and having a working clone.

Thanks for reminding me Roxy, that is exactly what i did with the SQr. I stand corrected. Now all I need is more money.

Thanks Roxy

 

[roxynoodle]

Honestly, the Robbot does appear to be a lot better than the others...so far.

The day the Aquav2s appeared on FT, I did the same thing. There were 3 then. One was $35 and the other 2 were $10-12 cheaper. I never noticed the word "authentic" on the $35 until later. I blew them up and studied them. It was clear the $35 one was much better than the other 2. In the cart. Then I went shopping for little dumb things. More pmma tanks for my Erlk clone. Atty stands. Then I went to pay and saw "authentic". Wait...what? I went back and read through the ton of disscussions. I was very skeptical, but it was obvious it was the best of the lot so I bought it.

Is it authentic? I have/had a lot of nice clones. This one is the cream of the crop. Either some unknown cloner put out the nicest clone or Footoon is lying about outsourcing. I don't know. But, I'm glad I spent $35 on it instead of less for one with crummy machining.

 

[Nikkita6]

hey all,

so, to my surprise I received a refund from "Gearbest" for the kayfun 4 I ordered it only took them 24 hours, i'm shocked after all the bad things I heard after I ordered from them now, I'm going to take one for the team and order the Robbot K4 bit more money but, if the pic is correct and it does come with that beefy silver spring it will be worth the premium price

You know I had never heard of Gearbest until VC ran a deal for them, which seemed sketchy to me from go .. The Kayfun V4 is too new for this random company to have secured the deal they claim to have for a decent KF V4 clone, so I didn't trust it. I have also heard some negative things about this company and I wish the owner of VC would do some background checks before running deals for every random company that claims to be offering a good deal, which is mostly likely shady.

I hope your order has a smooth transit to Canada honey

 

[nelsonm64]

You know I had never heard of Gearbest until VC ran a deal for them, which seemed sketchy to me from go .. The Kayfun V4 is too new for this random company to have secured the deal they claim to have for a decent KF V4 clone, so I didn't trust it. I have also heard some negative things about this company and I wish the owner of VC would do some background checks before running deals for every random company that claims to be offering a good deal, which is mostly likely shady.

I hope your order has a smooth transit to Canada honey

I had never heard of them before deal also. but, being the impulse buyer I am I had to order the first clone I found then, after reading all the bad reviews I got worried. and then they posted new photos showing "red" orings and that was the deal breaker. I know, kinda .... I feel a lot better getting the robot version they seem to be able to pull off good machining... time will tell I guess but, I do feel more confident the robot will be one of the better one's if not the best

Merry Christmas everyone! hope everones holidays are great ones!

 

[sky4it]

It was the night before Christmas and all through ECF's House, nothing was stirring,,,, not even some louse Classy Wife had to roust.

With Kent C., DC2, North of Atlanta and Stosh patrolling the FDA about that rue, I'll have to admit there wasnt much left to spit and chew. And while there seems to be a little bit of every type of political view, I think someone should invite the Hare Krishna, please tell the FDA, they deserve to vape too. While its been a long time since that great think tank Tom Baker got the boot, turns out he looks just like Mitch Zeller, I hope he changes his name to Mitch Z.., cuz I think we need Two.

With Laylel taking off down a weary road, it seemed like she was carrying oh such a load. When she gets back make sure she is feeling better, I had nothing to do so I wrote her a letter. Then Cranky took off like she was in a big hurry, maybe she married the vaperman so she had to leave like the morning dew. Then Nikitta dinged around and wrote the review. So Tami Pac, Roxynoodle and Nailz bought everything in sight to vaperooo. I suppose Santa be mad cause he has no vape gear to bring, cuz they bought so much stuff there aint nothing left for Santa to fling. And DeadbeatJeff was loading up on vape gear all over the place, cuz he knew to do it just in case. Lets hope the Politicos stay really quite, cause if not that dude is capable of starting a riot.

So I went to the Snails to determine my plight, the Snails promised they would answer and not bite. It is a good place where people dont wanna fight. Apparently Tibs vacuum cleaner blew up on a bad night. How did that happen she did not say, maybe she ran out of vapegear and put ejuice in the vacuum to turn it into her vape mainstay. No way. Ahh, and then arrived a Royal Knight. It seemed as tho Tibs didnt think he was very bright. Then Classy showed up and I didnt know what to say, in the end I hoping by Classy I would just do ok. so I hung around Atty Pops, FranC and Tibs hoping Tibs would cook me a fillet. After while I knew not to ask her cuz I knew she would say--- Maybe some other day. There was good nite and good morning and good morning and good nite, after a while I was wondering if Tibs wanted to turn out my lights.

Then again I had nothing to do, so ordered a bunch of vapegear just like you. So I ordered five copper mods and thought I did allright, Nikitta doesnt like them about that I will argue all night. If there is one thing about Nikitta dont tease her a lot, not even when she is acting hot dah trot. If you do that she will soak you with it without even a hint, I think she should have cut me some slack on that one cuz my name aint Larry Flynt.

And Vape on he said, like it was Crystal or something, then he gave me a like, which felt like a spike when I went my own way. Call it sugar and or call it lice, but at least over here they dont talk about others with whom they having nothing to do. And I suppose some people have do to just that- for the show, whatever the case I forgot what that dude knows. dont do things wrong and dont do things right, then just mix them together , and call it bargain- thats quite a plight.

For the road now its time to get going, gotta get me some Christmas to. and to all here at ECF do I wish you some cheer, I suppose it wont be a bargain for Christmas if some of yah aint drunk with your beer, but its that season for giving you that good old happy feeling, about that some of you are out there a reeling. so be going now on your happy old way, there really isnt any thing else to say. So I do wish you all a Merry Christmas and very good day, and on Christmas night also try not to get in a fight. yeah thats right. So merry ChristmaS to all Ant to All a gooD NighT.

 

[roxynoodle]

Lol! Roxy can't buy everything she sees, she just wants to

 

[jbarrick]

"Deadbeat Jeff"

Would that me you are referring to?

 

[Nailz]

Unexpected vapemail today, SX Zero Mod, build quality is really good, and the chip is working really good and accurate, only had it a few hours, but loving it so far

 

[roxynoodle]

Same atty as on my Yosen Zero

 

[Nailz]

It was the night before Christmas and all through ECF's House, nothing was stirring,,,, not even some louse Classy Wife had to roust.

With Kent C., DC2, North of Atlanta and Stosh patrolling the FDA about that rue, I'll have to admit there wasnt much left to spit and chew. And while there seems to be a little bit of every type of political view, I think someone should invite the Hare Krishna, please tell the FDA, they deserve to vape too. While its been a long time since that great think tank Tom Baker got the boot, turns out he looks just like Mitch Zeller, I hope he changes his name to Mitch Z.., cuz I think we need Two.

With Laylel taking off down a weary road, it seemed like she was carrying oh such a load. When she gets back make sure she is feeling better, I had nothing to do so I wrote her a letter. Then Cranky took off like she was in a big hurry, maybe she married the vaperman so she had to leave like the morning dew. Then Nikitta dinged around and wrote the review. So Tami Pac, Roxynoodle and Nailz bought everything in sight to vaperooo. I suppose Santa be mad cause he has no vape gear to bring, cuz they bought so much stuff there aint nothing left for Santa to fling. And DeadbeatJeff was loading up on vape gear all over the place, cuz he knew to do it just in case. Lets hope the Politicos stay really quite, cause if not that dude is capable of starting a riot.

So I went to the Snails to determine my plight, the Snails promised they would answer and not bite. It is a good place where people dont wanna fight. Apparently Tibs vacuum cleaner blew up on a bad night. How did that happen she did not say, maybe she ran out of vapegear and put ejuice in the vacuum to turn it into her vape mainstay. No way. Ahh, and then arrived a Royal Knight. It seemed as tho Tibs didnt think he was very bright. Then Classy showed up and I didnt know what to say, in the end I hoping by Classy I would just do ok. so I hung around Atty Pops, FranC and Tibs hoping Tibs would cook me a fillet. After while I knew not to ask her cuz I knew she would say--- Maybe some other day. There was good nite and good morning and good morning and good nite, after a while I was wondering if Tibs wanted to turn out my lights.

Then again I had nothing to do, so ordered a bunch of vapegear just like you. So I ordered five copper mods and thought I did allright, Nikitta doesnt like them about that I will argue all night. If there is one thing about Nikitta dont tease her a lot, not even when she is acting hot dah trot. If you do that she will soak you with it without even a hint, I think she should have cut me some slack on that one cuz my name aint Larry Flynt.

And Vape on he said, like it was Crystal or something, then he gave me a like, which felt like a spike when I went my own way. Call it sugar and or call it lice, but at least over here they dont talk about others with whom they having nothing to do. And I suppose some people have do to just that- for the show, whatever the case I forgot what that dude knows. dont do things wrong and dont do things right, then just mix them together , and call it bargain- thats quite a plight.

For the road now its time to get going, gotta get me some Christmas to. and to all here at ECF do I wish you some cheer, I suppose it wont be a bargain for Christmas if some of yah aint drunk with your beer, but its that season for giving you that good old happy feeling, about that some of you are out there a reeling. so be going now on your happy old way, there really isnt any thing else to say. So I do wish you all a Merry Christmas and very good day, and on Christmas night also try not to get in a fight. yeah thats right. So merry ChristmaS to all Ant to All a gooD NighT.

Awesome post, what a fun read, Merry Christmas

 

[Nailz]

Same atty as on my Yosen Zero

Yea the aqua looks really good on it

 

[Nikkita6]

I had never heard of them before deal also. but, being the impulse buyer I am I had to order the first clone I found then, after reading all the bad reviews I got worried. and then they posted new photos showing "red" orings and that was the deal breaker. I know, kinda .... I feel a lot better getting the robot version they seem to be able to pull off good machining... time will tell I guess but, I do feel more confident the robot will be one of the better one's if not the best

Merry Christmas everyone! hope everones holidays are great ones!

Nelson darling your impulse buying is part of your charm dear You and inswva have that in common Well here are some pics of the Robbot KF V4, DHL finally made their ghetto drop off ... again

I was a little ...... the DHL broke the seal on my gift box to inspect it I wanted to break my own gosh dang seal Inside the box is the full Svoemesto user manual printed in German and English, and the fold out sheet that shows the break down of the 42 parts ...

I think Robbot did a beautiful job with the machining although I would love to have an authentic to compare it side by side .. I have only seen the real deal in video. But I think it looks great

The only thing I have done thus far is dissemble it to clean it up, yes it smelled like machine oil .. Every single part threads perfectly, no grindy, crunchy threads .. I did need a pair of pliers to unscrew the bolt from the center shaft that holds the tank part together though, it was on tight.

After I washed it, it actually took three tries for me to assemble it correctly First I screwed on the bottom tank without installing the chimney bell, then I got it all together and realized that I forgot to put the inner deck chamber back on ... third time's a charm

I prolly won't get this built before the weekend is out, although I may try to build it on Friday because that is when my SXmini will be here and I want to vape them together

I think the main differences between all of the clones will come down to machining ... so far, very good

 

[Nailz]

Nelson darling your impulse buying is part of your charm dear You and inswva have that in common Well here are some pics of the Robbot KF V4, DHL finally made their ghetto drop off ... again

I was a little ...... the DHL broke the seal on my gift box to inspect it I wanted to break my own gosh dang seal Inside the box is the full Svoemesto user manual printed in German and English, and the fold out sheet that shows the break down of the 42 parts ...

I think Robbot did a beautiful job with the machining although I would love to have an authentic to compare it side by side .. I have only seen the real deal in video. But I think it looks great

The only thing I have done thus far is dissemble it to clean it up, yes it smelled like machine oil .. Every single part threads perfectly, no grindy, crunchy threads .. I did need a pair of pliers to unscrew the bolt from the center shaft that holds the tank part together though, it was on tight.

After I washed it, it actually took three tries for me to assemble it correctly First I screwed on the bottom tank without installing the chimney bell, then I got it all together and realized that I forgot to put the inner deck chamber back on ... third time's a charm

I prolly won't get this built before the weekend is out, although I may try to build it on Friday because that is when my SXmini will be here and I want to vape them together

I think the main differences between all of the clones will come down to machining ... so far, very good

I love the look of the kayfun v4, it is different to everything out there, look forward to your review on this one

 

[Nikkita6]

I love the look of the kayfun v4, it is different to everything out there, look forward to your review on this one

The look actually took a little while to grow on me, the first I saw it I didn't like it much .. I really like the way it looks with the glass tank section and that is probably how I will use it.

 

[mudram99]

I wasn't much into sweet juices until a few months ago when I bought a KFL+ at my local b&m and they offered a free 15ml bottle but they only had sweet flavors. I found it's easier not to think about smoking when I don't have tobacco flavored juices which I used to love.

When I first quit i had got tobacco flavors and menthol, thinking that's what i had smoked for almost 40 yrs must be what i liked and HAD t have right? Nope i found out that nic was what kept most of my demons away. And previously to get the nic i had to smoke nasty ole tobacco, even covered by menthol trying to make it taste better. I found out i can have my nic and some really wonderful tasting juices! And my wife likes to kiss much more now than when i smelled of an ashtray.

 

[Nikkita6]

Now that I have the Robbot KF in hand, one of the very apparent differences between it and the red oring version (FT and FC) and FT's black oring version is the part that Svoemesto calls the "UC middle section" .. the ring with the air holes in it. None of those other clone versions are even close to having the same depth, shape, or thickness of the original with regards to this one part. Also the size/dimension of the chamfer around the removable drip tip connector is not the same as the authentic Kayfun. That's all aesthetic though ..

But .. all of those clones come with spare parts, and the Robbot 1:1 KF does not .. I think that is because its a 1:1, so they cloned and packaged it exactly as the authentic is.