For those of you wanting to save some money

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the_vape_nerd

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Ok, this post is not for the enthusiast, the vaping hobby person, or the early adopters. If you are one of these folks, have the cash and love it, more power to you. I appreciate you testing out and reviewing all the stuff for me, the more thrifty vaper.

We continue to see a lot of posting here about vaping costs and how people aren't saving money and so on. There's a lot of marketing noise on this site so I would just like to offer you a bit of a plan than CAN save you money, especially over the long haul.

Vape nerd's plan to save you money

1. Get yourself at least 4 decent batteries. And by this i mean Egos, Kgos, Ego twists, or two tube mods with 4 batteries. It doesn't matter so much on the brand as this is pretty much a setup cost. Get something relatively durable. Cig lookalike batteries are not in this category in my opinion, but if they work for you, so be it.

2. Get yourself a pack of the ultimate clearomizers. Got Vapes sells these things under the name of fluxomizer, but you can buy them much more cheaply (and with less drama) at MVS. 510 Ultimate CE2 Clearomizer XL

3. Go onto youtube and figure out how to completely take these things apart, clean them, dry burn them and so on. I have found that with proper care you can get 100 ml of juice through these, sometimes more. I've got a few that are 6 months old and still vape like a champ.

4. Juice. I DIY and if you really want to get to maximum savings, I recommend it. The savings on shipping costs alone with juice orders is worth it. However, if you do not want to fool with this, even juice from a mid price range vendor like say Backwoods Brew, Highbrow, Vermillion River, etc., you will save tons of money.

5. You will want to avoid ECF for a bit. I know, i know, reading and learning is essential. What you don't see though is that the more reading and learning you are doing, the more you are feeding your mind with ideas of why you must try new things. You do not need these items to vape. Even if you can't stand clearos, a carto tank would provide almost the same amount of cost savings.

6. This is very important. Resist the urge to buy new things. What I've done and you can do is calculate your savings from smoking. Say you are looking a the latest and greatest shiny new mod. You want it so bad. Ok, fine. Do this. Calculate the savings and allow yourself half of those savings to buy mods, new delivery systems or whatever you'd like to experiment with. Even if they are total junk, you are still way ahead.

I have been doing this for more than a year now. I do sometimes buy mods and tanks etc, but I do it in a reasonable way. Money can certainly be saved with vaping. You just have to cut down on buying every new thing that comes out.

My vaping costs are under 15 cents per day.
 

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Do listen to all of the above if you're trying to spend money. Especially #6... and especially if you really do want something new, don't go broke, but DO allow yourself some new stuff every now and then. If you're hating life because you're not allowing yourself to try anything else, it's easy to get sour on vaping.
 

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1. Get yourself at least 4 decent batteries. And by this i mean Egos, Kgos, Ego twists, or two tube mods with 4 batteries. It doesn't matter so much on the brand as this is pretty much a setup cost.

1 ego usb passthrough batt is all I have and it works for me. I'm at a desk or driving a good part of the day and I can always be jacked-in. (but I have a vaper wife to bum off of and a local store that is never more than 11 hours away from being open should my one batt fail.)

Between us we were going through $21 of juice a week ($7 for 10ml at the store) We spent about $80 on DIY stuff from wizardlabs a bit more than a month ago so we're effectively vaping for free now if we think about that $21/week #.
 

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I completely agree. I am an older college student, with part-time jobs that I have
time to take, so I can't buy everything there is. I think I have a decent set-up and
back-ups now, so all I have to spend on is juice for quite awhile. I've already saved
quite a bit, and will have to continue to stay on this road as long as I'm in school.

Great post.
 

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Ok, this post is not for the enthusiast, the vaping hobby person
I'm a bit of both, but with some restraint.
6. This is very important. Resist the urge to buy new things. What I've done and you can do is calculate your savings from smoking. Say you are looking a the latest and greatest shiny new mod. You want it so bad. Ok, fine. Do this. Calculate the savings and allow yourself half of those savings to buy mods, new delivery systems or whatever you'd like to experiment with. Even if they are total junk, you are still way ahead.

I have been doing this for more than a year now. I do sometimes buy mods and tanks etc, but I do it in a reasonable way. Money can certainly be saved with vaping. You just have to cut down on buying every new thing that comes out.
#6 is the key one. I still watch ECF, and pick one or two new things to try, but only after reading other's experiences. But trying every new thing out there can really empty your wallet in a hurry. I have a setup that works. I may want to improve it, but won't expect miracles with a single purchase. If I do buy something, I start off thinking of it as a gamble. If I win, great! If I lose, I consider that to be part of the cost of learning.

My vaping costs are under 15 cents per day.

I keep seeing these same claims come up again and again, and I can't figure out how some people spend so little on vaping. Either my math is wrong (probable) or I don't know where to shop (also probable). I have 35+yrs experience in minimizing cigarette smoking costs (check signature -- I stopped before trying dryer-lint filters and recycled newspapers) So, I sit down and calculate my costs:

Consumable hardware
1 battery lasts me nearly a day before needing a recharge. It cost $15. Manufacturer says it should last for 500 charge cycles, not forever, so I need to consider that as a consumable. $0.03 per day, assuming you can charge it for free. This cost increases if a single battery doesn't last a whole day on a charge. So, 3 batteries would be $0.09 per day.
Cartos: $7 for 5-pack, and each one lasts a week/35ml before I can't stand it any more, and only if I clean it twice during the week. $0.20 per day.
Clearos: last much longer, but juice consumption is 50% more than when I use cartos, in my experience, and the ejuice requires extra flavoring.
DIY
250 ml of 100mg nic base: $50. Enough for 1 liter of 25mg ejuice. At 5ml per day, that's 200 days for this $50, or $0.25 per day just for nic base. Nearly $0.40 if I was using clearos.
Flavoring: 120 ml for $12. At 20% in DIY, 1 ml/day goes into the 5ml of ejuice, $0.10/day for flavoring my $0.25/day worth of ejuice to total $0.35/day. ($0.10 + 50% flavor + 50% consumption = $0.60/day using clearos)
Add another $0.02/day for PG/VG in the ejuice.

All costs included shipping, where applicable. Buy in bulk to save.

$0.60 - $0.65 per day to vape, about 4x what the OP spends. I'll be trying out a new rebuildable something-or-another this weekend, to help eliminate the carto costs here, but still would fall short of the $0.10-$0.20/day so many of the others have claimed. Any math genius out there can show me my miscalculations? Or better yet, point me to less expensive vendors!
 

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biker Bob i think some of the really low figures don't include hardware and the user has low juice consumption.
i got tired of the penny pinching game decades ago. now that i don't have to pinch i don't bother. mostly because i have learned there can be a lot of false economy in pinching pennies. i figure life isn't worth living if you aren't enjoying it. i never smoked for any reason except enjoyment. doubly so for vaping. if I'm not enjoying it why bother?


but yeah- one can get carried away. drip tip collections, tank collections, mod collections...






saving money is great though and if you can keep your Mitsubishi off the jewelry you van save a lot without e even trying. my vaping costs with hardware and purchased juice is about $1.00 a day
I'm still saving about 10 bucks a day without pinching a thing.

my point is that life should be fun. one needs not spend to the detriment of the families financial health...but if you aren't having fun then it wont matter how much you have saved.
 

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1 ego usb passthrough batt is all I have and it works for me. I'm at a desk or driving a good part of the day and I can always be jacked-in. (but I have a vaper wife to bum off of and a local store that is never more than 11 hours away from being open should my one batt fail.)

Between us we were going through $21 of juice a week ($7 for 10ml at the store) We spent about $80 on DIY stuff from wizardlabs a bit more than a month ago so we're effectively vaping for free now if we think about that $21/week #.

i would get at least one more if i were you, backups are essential
 

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I'm a bit of both, but with some restraint.

#6 is the key one. I still watch ECF, and pick one or two new things to try, but only after reading other's experiences. But trying every new thing out there can really empty your wallet in a hurry. I have a setup that works. I may want to improve it, but won't expect miracles with a single purchase. If I do buy something, I start off thinking of it as a gamble. If I win, great! If I lose, I consider that to be part of the cost of learning.



I keep seeing these same claims come up again and again, and I can't figure out how some people spend so little on vaping. Either my math is wrong (probable) or I don't know where to shop (also probable). I have 35+yrs experience in minimizing cigarette smoking costs (check signature -- I stopped before trying dryer-lint filters and recycled newspapers) So, I sit down and calculate my costs:

Consumable hardware
1 battery lasts me nearly a day before needing a recharge. It cost $15. Manufacturer says it should last for 500 charge cycles, not forever, so I need to consider that as a consumable. $0.03 per day, assuming you can charge it for free. This cost increases if a single battery doesn't last a whole day on a charge. So, 3 batteries would be $0.09 per day.
Cartos: $7 for 5-pack, and each one lasts a week/35ml before I can't stand it any more, and only if I clean it twice during the week. $0.20 per day.
Clearos: last much longer, but juice consumption is 50% more than when I use cartos, in my experience, and the ejuice requires extra flavoring.
DIY
250 ml of 100mg nic base: $50. Enough for 1 liter of 25mg ejuice. At 5ml per day, that's 200 days for this $50, or $0.25 per day just for nic base. Nearly $0.40 if I was using clearos.
Flavoring: 120 ml for $12. At 20% in DIY, 1 ml/day goes into the 5ml of ejuice, $0.10/day for flavoring my $0.25/day worth of ejuice to total $0.35/day. ($0.10 + 50% flavor + 50% consumption = $0.60/day using clearos)
Add another $0.02/day for PG/VG in the ejuice.

All costs included shipping, where applicable. Buy in bulk to save.

$0.60 - $0.65 per day to vape, about 4x what the OP spends. I'll be trying out a new rebuildable something-or-another this weekend, to help eliminate the carto costs here, but still would fall short of the $0.10-$0.20/day so many of the others have claimed. Any math genius out there can show me my miscalculations? Or better yet, point me to less expensive vendors!

bob, i did not factor in the hardware costs at all...i do factor in the clearos but 1 clearo that lasts me six months and cost $2 a pop is almost neglible....i have 5-6 in rotation at any one time....i also have a few tanks and i didnt include the tank's cost but did include carto and/or replaceable heads where applicable in either the carto tank or the vivi nova

as for the juice and diy stuff, that is calculated on 1. bulk orders with wizard labs and 2. me vaping 3-4 ml per day...obviously if you are a heavier vaper you are going to incur more costs

hell even at .60 per day you are still saving a ton of money....and the point isnt that everyone should be at 15 cents per day...only that it doesnt have to cost a fortune
 

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PG at Tractor Supply--20.00 per gallon--comes out to one half cent per ml.
Kanthal wire, 32 awg, 100 ft fir 10 bucks on ebay--about 2.5 cents per coil
Cotton yarn wick--8 bucks for 250 yards--about one third cent per coil
Nicotine--Wizard labs, 60 bucks for 500 ml of 100 mg/ml--about 1.2 cents per ml at 10mg/ml, 2.4 cents per ml at 20 mg/ml

Best way to save money is DIY, and if you have the skills, even making your own box mods, which with your own skills can even be repaired/rebuilt.
 

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Hardware (maintenance?) costs are usually the part most people ignore--the 'hidden' costs. And thats where you can throw a lot of money without realizing it. Your clearos: 5 or 6, and last 6 months. Replace them and get another 6 months. 10 of them for the year = $20. That 5 cents a day increases your costs by 30%. I'm not sure if 30% is 'insignificant'. Those who see 30% as insignificant, and vape 4ml/day of some top-shelf ejuice, will spend a whole lot more as 'insignificant' than others.

Its a lot harder for the newbies, since they really don't know what they need. They ask for advice here, get 20 different opinions, and think they need to follow all 20. Also, DIY and rebuildables/repairables are either too cumbersome or technical for some people (I know one who I wouldn't trust with eliquid unless it was inside a sealed cartomizer), but with care, can save you a whole bunch of money.

And as you pointed out, daily vaping, for less than the cost of your morning coffee, is certainly within everyone's reach. :)
 
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