For those of you who just don't get enough nicotine from vaping

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Vapinginjapan

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I've found a way to drastically increase nicotine intake without tobacco products

Snus is commonly accepted as having more kick than vaping, I feel. It might be because alot of the nic that we intake into our systems flys out on the exhale.

Well, if you ever felt like 36mg didn't have enough kick for you, i've come up with a way to increase the absorption rate of nicotine with efluid.

What you do is cut your liquid down with alot of VG or PG, to probably 4-5MG. Then put maybe 10-15 drops on a piece of ball cotton. Then hold it in your gums like you would a piece of snus.

The e-liquid in mouth tingling sensation is still there, but being cut down so much it's alot more mild, and I feel like i'm getting a much heavier dose of nicotine than if I had vaped the equivalent amount of liquid. It's also probably less carcinogenic than popping snus and certainley better for your teeth.

Is there any reason why I shouldn't be doing that?
 

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Thats very interesting.

I'm one of the 'e-cig on life support' people (use snus and other things to carry where the e-cig alone hasn't been able) and I love to experiment.

I have 6mg/mL Marlboro and I might try this just to see how it goes

I also love to experiment

in your experimenting here's two tips from my own:

1. the little clear cartridges with a bit of hard crystal center from nicorette oral inhalers (the notorious 'looks like a tampon' NRT devices) when put into a Vick's type nasal inhaler shoved firmly up inside the sniffy part so they stay) make really a really great nasal delivery system (that of course looks like you are treating a cold) that imo work much better that way than as intended.

2. do NOT spray Nicotrol nasal spray into your mouth (at least very certainly do not aim it under your tongue!)... that little .5 or .05 mg little squirt would like to kill you.


unfinished experiments:
I have tried e-liquid as a nasal spray (trying to model Nicotrol's using an empty zicam bottle) -- doesn't work with just plain e-liquid as designed for e-cig (its too heavy of a liquid, needs to be thinner, the PG/VG based just doesn't work there, I have 12 mg/ml I tried this with since that's really close to the original 10mg/ml) and its flavored just seems to screw it up even more. I have some 60 mg unflavored I hope to get around to trying a little of as a very thinned out (with a mostly distilled water/saline solution/light saltwater and bit of baking soda solution).

Something else I plan to try is refill the cartridge of the little nicorette oral inhaler-turned-nasal inhaler with possibly some of the original nicorette nasal spray fluid (or my attempt at successfully imitating it if I can -- see just above)
 
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I tried this ages ago, but the end result was similar to nicotine gum or lozenges. The nicotine was there but it didn't quite have the right effect. I experimented with a variety of strengths... even large amounts of nicotine didn't leave me satisfied (but did raise my heart rate to alarming levels).

I suspect nicotine alone is only part of the equation. Perhaps the naturally-occurring MAOIs in tobacco are necessary for some to feel satisfied.

I started using Swedish snus several weeks ago and my e-cig's been gathering dust since, but the analogs are finally gone.

--K
 

whistlrr

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well I didn't mention my nasal-vaping experimentation.

(putting the e-cig up to one nostril, closing off the other and inhaling.. this is very powerful, and accomplished best with one of the nose-pieces from the previously mentioned adapted vick inhalers but just nose piece, remove the 'looks like a tampon' device's cartridge first!). E-cig mouth pieces are not very nose-friendly without this little adaptation.

I have since completely given up and sworn of nasal-vaping (I think).

I had to work my way first 'french inhaling' and finally have gotten the hang just tonight of how to internally send orally-inhaled vapor up to and out my nose (without trying to send it through the lungs first which was the 'smoking an analog' method for me for 30 years, a method which does not work on an e-cig for me.. the technique for sending vapor inhaled in my mouth but up and out my nose is a totally different tactic with an e-cig but I've finally got it now)
 
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Vapinginjapan

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Okay, the reason why i'm even thining of suggesting this, is that in the past 3 weeks, i've had all 5 of my atomizers bite it.

This essentially means i'm e-cigless for about a another week while my order is filled.

This is honestly more of an emergency measure to fulfill nicotine cravings while my e-cig gets here. Unfortunatley by my recollection I only have about ~60MG worth of nicotine left in my remaining e-liquid that's been diluted and rediluted in order to serve this purpose.

Heh, wish me luck guys. Don't wanna go back to the analogs, and looking to try and avoid the pipe. Just gotta cut smoke out of my life.

(Side note: Snus is not locally avaliable in Japan, so i'm kinda sunk)
 

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I'm sorry Mr.Japan, that is a story that will keep me up at night. The thought of being unable to vape for a period of time scares the crap out of me. Yet I think the withdrawals will be less severe then that of cigs. Anyhow, that's why I thank god for cartomizers that attach to my 901. It makes those chances much less... that is of course unless my batteries bit it.

Then I will quickly learn how to make my own mod.

Otherwise though, back to the topic. I tried SNUS back when I was still smoking, and I hated it. Plus, as it stands right now vaping does wonders for my cravings. At 24-26mg, I am set.
 

Vapinginjapan

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Oops. Heh. But yeah, how everything in e-cig liquid is approved by the FDA, found in foods, yada yada yada. Propylene glycol, GRAS food aditive. nicotine, in nicorette (also oral), flavorings (Dear lord I hope the flavorings aren't toxic)

In adition, anyone doing mouth inhales has some of the liquid land in their stomach and it probably condenses.

So, why does everyone seem to think this is a horrible idea?
 

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well I didn't mention my nasal-vaping experimentation.

(putting the e-cig up to one nostril, closing off the other and inhaling.. this is very powerful, and accomplished best with one of the nose-pieces from the previously mentioned adapted vick inhalers but just nose piece, remove the 'looks like a tampon' device's cartridge first!). E-cig mouth pieces are not very nose-friendly without this little adaptation.

I love freaky posts. This just seems nutty, but I have to say I am entertained.
 

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well I didn't mention my nasal-vaping experimentation.

(putting the e-cig up to one nostril, closing off the other and inhaling.. this is very powerful, and accomplished best with one of the nose-pieces from the previously mentioned adapted vick inhalers but just nose piece, remove the 'looks like a tampon' device's cartridge first!). E-cig mouth pieces are not very nose-friendly without this little adaptation.

I have since completely given up and sworn of nasal-vaping (I think).

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I love freaky posts. This just seems nutty, but I have to say I am entertained.

I missed this thread initially. IR now entertained as well :)

Hey whistlrr, folks that think out-side the box are our innovators for sure. That does not stifle the chuckles picturing your e-cig up the nose experiment. Puts me in mind of the old Cheech and Chong routine "Up His Nose"
Doctor! Doctor! Evryting up his nose! :lol:
 
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