Fox Poll "Is it irresponsible for celebrities to promote the use of e-cigarettes?"

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kathi17

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I voted no, and enjoyed reading the comments.

Funny how it's okay to glamorize drinking, which is involved in so many deadly accidents, fights and domestic violence, but it's not okay to promote quitting smoking by using the only thing that seems to work. And now we should legalize ........., and that isn't going to make kids have more access to it?

Hmmm, I didn't realize that we couldn't mention the m word here.
 

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I voted no, and enjoyed reading the comments.

Funny how it's okay to glamorize drinking, which is involved in so many deadly accidents, fights and domestic violence, but it's not okay to promote quitting smoking by using the only thing that seems to work. And now we should legalize ........., and that isn't going to make kids have more access to it?

Hmmm, I didn't realize that we couldn't mention the m word here.

Nope! :)

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ation/255864-why-we-dont-allow-drug-talk.html

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This is an example where 'rules' result in a lack of communication rather than furthering it. I understand (and agree with) the idea not to speak of certain subjects in the general and new members forums and most others, but when arguments regarding this certain subject are used by anti's in order to either tax, regulate, or in some way discredit vaping in any possible way they can, then not be able to reasonably argue against such tactics, inhibits and harms our intended goals and purposes here.

Goals and purposes have a higher relative importance than 'rule's' or 'good ideas'. They are the 'senior concepts' that rules are made to carry out. They are the reason, why there are rules - to further goals and purposes. When rules work against those, then they should be rejected by rational moderation.
 

kathi17

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This is an example where 'rules' result in a lack of communication rather than furthering it. I understand (and agree with) the idea not to speak of certain subjects in the general and new members forums and most others, but when arguments regarding this certain subject are used by anti's in order to either tax, regulate, or in some way discredit vaping in any possible way they can, then not be able to reasonably argue against such tactics, inhibits and harms our intended goals and purposes here.

Goals and purposes have a higher relative importance than 'rule's' or 'good ideas'. They are the 'senior concepts' that rules are made to carry out. They are the reason, why there are rules - to further goals and purposes. When rules work against those, then they should be rejected by rational moderation.

I think the rules were made so this forum wouldn't come up in a search engine. I agree with the rule not to mention certain things by name for that reason. What bothers me is that the worst type of anti e-cig people in my state are pushing for the legalization of these "things".
 
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