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I just voted. Results show YES: 39% NO: 45% I'M NOT SURE: 16%. I also offered up this comment based on something that has been pissing me off lately regarding a few arguments I've seen from the anti-everything community:
I smoked 1-2 packs of cigarettes for 25 years. Just got into vaping a little over 2 months ago and have not had a regular cigarette since. In those couple of months since I finally kicked cigarettes I have seen so much in regards local and federal governments from around the globe trying to step in and put a stop to ecigs. Why, because the studies aren't there? They are, some people just don't like the results, and I'm almost willing to bet that those people who disagree with the results are those losing millions in profits and those seeing their corporate kickbacks dwindling.
And the whole argument about marketing to kids? Where is that coming from? I don't remember seeing magazine ads featuring young people in a club scene or hearing radio spots featuring trending music or commercials showing elaborate parties that randomly break out in the streets. Oh wait, yeah I do, I remember now. Those are beer and alcohol ads, and since everybody from executives to politicians to sports franchise owners are getting paid for those, who cares if a few kids from some irresponsible parents take part in a little underage drinking and develop a few alcohol related dependencies before legal drinking age, right? I mean according to those who's pockets are being lined so that these manufacturers can hit as big an audience as humanly possible, what's the harm in that? But show Jenny McCarthy taking a drag off an ecig, well she posed for Playboy so ecigs are evil and that evil is going to lead the children of the world to take part in far greater evils because of it.
I get it, the constant and repeated visualization of a random beach parting full of hot bods and guys with great abs and equally great hair that sprouts up in the middle of a populated downtown metropolis because somebody popped the top off of a watered down no flavor tasting bottle of beer while I'm trying to enjoy a football/basketball/soccer/hockey/baseball game with my family isn't a cause for alarm. No, that's just part of the game. But show a former Playmate and an actor I don't even remember the name of or what shows/movies he's been in plug a safer alternative to cigarettes and the world has a problem? Sounds legit.
The poll means NOTHING since everyone CAN VOTE MULTIPLE TIMES. FOX is ridiculous nowadays. At one time they served a purpose. Now - just pretty girls and hunks selling crap. People buy their "polls" taking them as gospel. Allowing only one vote from an IP address is NOT that difficult. They simply want hype to talk about the next day. ACCURATE? no way.
Q: Is it irresponsible for celebrities to promote the use of e-cigarettes?
39% Yes
45% No
16% I'm not sure
One reader made the comment below. ANY 'anti' would (unless they are really lame) ask, "Says who?" All inclusive comments substantiated without rock solid PROOF do more harm than good IMHO.
"How can people possibly vote no to a product that saves lives?"
"50% of all smokers die from smoking related illness. Since the start of e-cigarette use not one person has died from a vaping related illness. Do the math. Would you rather have someone inhale a non toxic vapour, or deadly smoke. It really is that simple."
PERHAPS TRUE ........... yet claiming , "...NOT ONE" has died is illogical at best.
Senile Old Man Don
Q: Is it irresponsible for celebrities to promote the use of e-cigarettes?
39% Yes
45% No
16% I'm not sure
One reader made the comment below. ANY 'anti' would (unless they are really lame) ask, "Says who?" All inclusive comments substantiated without rock solid PROOF do more harm than good IMHO.
"How can people possibly vote no to a product that saves lives?"
"50% of all smokers die from smoking related illness. Since the start of e-cigarette use not one person has died from a vaping related illness. Do the math. Would you rather have someone inhale a non toxic vapour, or deadly smoke. It really is that simple."
PERHAPS TRUE ........... yet claiming , "...NOT ONE" has died is illogical at best.
Senile Old Man Don
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just thought I'd give you an answer.The question is worded poorly as you can see from some of the comments. For instance
That logic makes no sense...it's saying it is irresponsible to promote if used to quit smoking...and no it's not irresponsible if it's used to get non-smokers to start vaping.
So either question is worded poorly or people just aren't reading it correctly.
That logic makes no sense...it's saying it is irresponsible to promote if used to quit smoking...and no it's not irresponsible if it's used to get non-smokers to start vaping.
So either question is worded poorly or people just aren't reading it correctly.
Exactly what I was talking about
Had to read it twice my self...and think a lot of people believe they are voting one way when they are actually voting the opposite of what they believe.
Yup. Ignore the fact that they sell sex, drugs, tobacco, alcohol, etc, etc... in their line of work every single day but attack them when they are promoting a healthier choice? Fail, media... just... fail...
Well, FWIW...it's now at 46% "No" and 39% "Yes" with 16% undecided. Some improvement since yesterday.
And how is the word "irresponsible" misleading? Trouble is too many people don't really read...they skim.
And how is the word "irresponsible" misleading? Trouble is too many people don't really read...they skim.
If BOTS means ROBOTS I suppose so; thankfully I am not aware of 'em doing it to 'me'.
I am old and as with most abbreviations I am way behind; I just mastered "IMHO" and even that sometimes confuses me!
Where the heck was I headed with this anyways? I seem to have "fergetteded". Oh yea ........ "POLLS" like FOX and most others are not accurate; ask Beerack and Joltin'Joe - they live by and on falsehoods.
And............. that's the 'truth' ........ per the "POLL" CNN did just a few days ago.
Senile Old Man Don
** We all 'know' CNN never fibs!
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