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FeistyAlice

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vaping going on three weeks. I have an eGo; DH has the 801.

I just got in from Freedom Smoke, American Spirit. Yes, it it mild and smooth, with little tobacco aftertaste and only a very slight bit of sweet (I actually don't think it is sweet but don't know how else to describe it), 18 mg. I've been smoking AS analogs for years and switched to AS Organic over a year ago, 2.5-3 pack a day folks @ $60 a carton. It is the only analog that doesn't make me cough. The American Spirit juice is pretty on target.

99% of the juices, tobacco, dessert, fruit are too sweet to me. I've tried, oh, about 20 tobaccos and a sample set of dessert and one of fruits. The American Spirit isn't too sweet. I am for sure ordering a big bottle of it for my regular vaping.

Also got a small bottle of New/Port. I was not a menthol smoker but this is really nice. Again not too much sweet; just a bare hint. Very refreshing with only a slight, plesant methol aftertaste. Nothing harsh about it at all.

I haven't tried the Wyatt yet; sample of it too. If it is too tobacco-ie DH gets it for his stash.

Service from Freedom Smoke superb and very fast shipment. This was my first order but there is another on the way and many more in future.

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DaDuke

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Man, i've spent over $150 on juice in the past month just searching for something i really like. I am really impressed with everything i've read about the flavs and CS . I'm gearing up to fend off the wife as I place an order with fsusa.

What i've been primarily looking for is a cappucino that doesn't taste like plastic or too strong on the coffee side. I used to get the cap from JC and although it was a bit weak on the flav it tasted good. They no longer make it and everything i've tried since is either plasticky, too much like straight coffee or doesnt taste like cap at all.

Also looking for a good ry4 and from the rave reviews here I doubt i'll be dissapointed. So far the others just don't seem to have much taste. I first tasted ry4 as a sampler of carts when i bought my first e-cig but nothing has come close to that tasty flavor.

Also looking for a real chocolate tasting liquid. Anyone tried it? I'm not talking about charleston chew like one i recently tried but a deep rich real chocolate taste. The ones i've tried are either not tasting like chocolate although some have an appeal in their own right, OR they are so subtle they're barely detectable.

Anyone tried the timarasu? I saw a review that raved about the tim from another vendor but if i'm going to order from fsusa anyway...
 

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I'm in Canada and e-juice is not approved so I risk orders being returned by customs when I order across the border. Because of this I haven't risked ordering from a bunch of different places, which is what I'd like to do. I figure if I place one large order every couple months I am beter off than having a bunch of packages constantly coming in. So Ive only had the chance to try Dekange and janty's Crystal Liquid.

Because of the nice selection and rave reviews I think I;m going to try freedopm smoke usa. The 3 ml samples are also a great plus, so I think I'm going to order a bunch.

If you were going to order a bunch of different samples from myfreedomsmokeusa what flavours would you purchase? Which ones are your favourite?

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I'm in Canada and e-juice is not approved so I risk orders being returned by customs when I order across the border. Because of this I haven't risked ordering from a bunch of different places, which is what I'd like to do. I figure if I place one large order every couple months I am beter off than having a bunch of packages constantly coming in. So Ive only had the chance to try Dekange and janty's Crystal Liquid.

Because of the nice selection and rave reviews I think I;m going to try freedopm smoke usa. The 3 ml samples are also a great plus, so I think I'm going to order a bunch.

If you were going to order a bunch of different samples from myfreedomsmokeusa what flavours would you purchase? Which ones are your favourite?

I'd be happy to make some recommendations. What sort of flavors do you typically like? Tobacco, fruit, or candy?
 

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Man, i've spent over $150 on juice in the past month just searching for something i really like. I am really impressed with everything i've read about the flavs and CS . I'm gearing up to fend off the wife as I place an order with fsusa.

What i've been primarily looking for is a cappucino that doesn't taste like plastic or too strong on the coffee side. I used to get the cap from JC and although it was a bit weak on the flav it tasted good. They no longer make it and everything i've tried since is either plasticky, too much like straight coffee or doesnt taste like cap at all.

Also looking for a good ry4 and from the rave reviews here I doubt i'll be dissapointed. So far the others just don't seem to have much taste. I first tasted ry4 as a sampler of carts when i bought my first e-cig but nothing has come close to that tasty flavor.

Also looking for a real chocolate tasting liquid. Anyone tried it? I'm not talking about charleston chew like one i recently tried but a deep rich real chocolate taste. The ones i've tried are either not tasting like chocolate although some have an appeal in their own right, OR they are so subtle they're barely detectable.

Anyone tried the timarasu? I saw a review that raved about the tim from another vendor but if i'm going to order from fsusa anyway...


Try the cappaccino smooth, I vape it daily since getting it in a swap:) Since I started vaping I gradually stopped drinking coffee. Cap smooth is like a really good cup of coffee with cream and sugar. A good allday vape. Most coffees slap you in the face. This one caresses your mouth:laugh:
RIMP:evil:
 

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I like tobacco flavours with sweet or nutty undertones, such as 555, and I don't like candy flavours but I'm interested in dessert flavours like maple, toffee, and chocolate flavours. I don't like overly sweet liquids. I like fruit flavours that actually taste like fruit rather than candy. Absolutely love Crystal Liquid "Crisp Apple" and it has a true apple flavour with a hint of sourness and just a hint of sweetness. Overly sweet liquids make me feel ill. My girlfriend likes sweeter tasting liquids so I'm open to many suggestions, but if you could describe how sweet the flavour is I would be oh so very appreciative!

Thanks Sathara!
 

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I like tobacco flavours with sweet or nutty undertones, such as 555, and I don't like candy flavours but I'm interested in dessert flavours like maple, toffee, and chocolate flavours. I don't like overly sweet liquids. I like fruit flavours that actually taste like fruit rather than candy. Absolutely love Crystal Liquid "Crisp Apple" and it has a true apple flavour with a hint of sourness and just a hint of sweetness. Overly sweet liquids make me feel ill. My girlfriend likes sweeter tasting liquids so I'm open to many suggestions, but if you could describe how sweet the flavour is I would be oh so very appreciative!

Thanks Sathara!

Let's see. Based on what you like, I think RY4 would be right up your alley. I'm still waiting to try the RY5 and will post a review once I do. RY4 has a tobacco flavor with a bit of caramel and maybe some chocolate. My husband, who is anti-sweet flavors right now, loves this stuff. I finally got him to try Wyatt Earp and he really likes that one (he's more into tobacco flavors) whereas I don't really care for it. I wouldn't say that the RY4 is overly sweet. Both RY4 and Wyatt Earp taste better if you let them age a little bit. Shake the bottle from time to time and let them sit a week.

I haven't tried the other tobacco flavors. I've got some Camtel and Maxboro coming for my husband. I'm more a fruity flavor person. Their Hawaiian Tropical is just fantastic for me. It also gets better over time and can start out really, really strong at first. It mellows a bit over time but is still my everyday vape. If I don't have HT, it's going to be a very bad day for my husband and coworkers. So far, since getting it, I haven't had a day without it either.

I also like their Pina Colada but I haven't really found a Pina Colada I don't like. Theirs is good but it's not what I'd call great. I'm still looking for the perfect one. The Pina Colada is fairly sweet and has more of a candy flavor. It's smooth and reminds me more of pineapple than anything but it's a candy pineapple rather than a fresh fruit flavor. I think that's the FlavorArt flavorings coming through though. It seems like they tend more towards candy flavored fruits rather than fresh fruits.

I haven't tried their apple to give you a good idea whether it's more of a candy or fresh fruit flavor. Maybe someone else can help with that one. Their apple pie isn't all that sweet so that might be an option as well. I tend to get more pastry than apple out of that one so take it with a grain of salt. Of course, that's true of every single cobbler or pie I've tried so it's not a FSUSA phenomenon. It's probably just a Satharra peculiarity. :lol: I've heard good things out of their Applewood though, so that might be a nice option for you too.

I have tried their pineapple and find it to be pretty sweet and more of a candy flavor than a fresh fruit. It's good, if you're wanting a pineapple candy but not if you're wanting fresh fruit. Their mango is fairly similar in that regards - definitely candy flavor.

That being said, I'm still a big fan of FSUSA and my opinions are just that...opinions. Some folks love FSUSA and some folks don't care for it. I know that I need to pick and choose flavors based on what I know but I also want to provide as unbiased reviews as I can. I do know that they're a very ethical company and work hard to meet everyone's needs. They provide customer service that's fantastic and are willing to go the extra mile. When I find businesses like that, I try my best to give them my business in some small effort to reward good customer service and policies. (Much of the reason I fly only Southwest Airlines unless there is no other option because I find the use of baggage fees repugnant but that's another rant for another time.)
 

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This makes me crazy. I just got 4 sample size bottles from FSUSA. Ry4 Ry5 Wyatt Earp American spirit and they threw in a mar bro and a lime cherry I haven't tried yet. So far the 4 tobacco flavors taste almost exactly the same. All an over powering brown note of tobacco no hints of anything.

Now I have an educated palette being a chef of over 20 years I have a professional stake in being able to pick out flavors from recipes etc. And none of these tastes in any way discernible from the other. I did pop the caps and drippers to let them breathe over night but still no flavor other then the strong dry tobacco. This aggravates me terribly.

Someones going to say "let them age" I am going to reply "sell me something that tastes good!" If it needs age then I think FSUSA should be responsible fro that. I need a product I can vape on delivery and tastes good today not in two weeks.

Oh and I meant to mention I have a VV device so I have tried them at different temps.
 
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GrimReaper

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well that is a good idea but you also have to take in the condsideration they hand make everything so its fresh and they do it for different pg/vg mixes ect ect add in splashs of flavor. i know i wouldnt want a double cheese burger thats been sitting at mcdonalds for 2 weeks, next time just order the liquids you want b4 your out or needing them and youll have plenty of time
 

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Bad comparison. When you buy a burger, you want to eat it right away. when you buy e-juice, You usually want to vape it right away. Also, a burger will be pretty gross after 2 weeks, whereas e-juice should be good for a long time. I agree that you shouldn't have to let the juice "age" before vaping it. When I get it, I want to vape it.
 

shanagan

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Maybe they're just not the company for you. I mean, I really don't mind vaping the samples they send while I let the flavors come together on the other stuff, but if you do, then find another vendor. You more than anyone know the effects of spoilage & managing your inventory to avoid spoilage.

Having said that, I think you should diy so you can play around with the flavorings you want and that suit your palate.
 

shanagan

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How many times do you say that before a company goes out of business? I mean it's not like this isnt a common complaint. Inventory and spoilage have nothing to do with the fact that the product does not seem to be ready for use as delivered.

I'm not sure why I'm picking up such a tense vibe here, so I'm treading lightly.

Many of us are fine with the steeping process. It's just not a big deal to many of us. So, yk, them going out of business for that reason seems unlikely.

As far as inventory and spoilage - basically what you're asking is that they stock *every* flavor ready-to-vape, right? So instead of a 50 gallon drum of nic juice waiting to be mixed with any of their flavorings, you want all the flavorings plus all of the different nic levels/ pg/vg mix premade and ready to go. That's just flat impossible from a production standpoint, unless you cut your flavors to about 10 and keep them stocked all the time. Which is cool and what a lot of companies do.

But fsusa seems committed to offering a ton of flavors, plus generally customizable vg/pg levels. I mean, I get your complaint, I do. I just think between the option of ordering and waiting a week for my item to be mixed, steeped, then shipped and the option of receiving the item a few days after the order and letting the steeping happen here... I honestly probably wouldn't order from a company that told me to wait a week or two for shipping, would you?

What I do think would be GREAT would be a heads up on the ordering pages as to which are ready to roll, and which need a little time.
 
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