Let all the left and right coasters worry about it. Us mid-westerners will just sit back and chill
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Let all the left and right coasters worry about it. Us mid-westerners will just sit back and chill
I need to take pictures of the house and show you what I can buy for 130k - compared to the Cali market, it's obnoxious.
With my state being one of the ones that legalized something the federal government still considers illegal I would be frantically enraged if they ban vaping!!!
When I was finishing my degree at University of Nebraska-Lincoln I looked at rentals online then out of curiosity I looked at what houses sold for. I could have charged a whole house on my CC!!!
What is up with all the bowing to CASSA? I get that they are trying to do good. However, everybody I see trying to take a step to help gets smacked around for not waiting until CASSA approves their plan. This blind allegiance to "authority" is a little saddening. Use the Free To Vape Site, submit your own letter, write your congress critters, and write the president. Draw up petitions, get signatures, and send them in. Do everything you can to help the cause. Waiting around for somebody to hand you the magic bullet is not going to carry the day.
To paraphrase Patton, A good plan executed today is better than a perfect plan executed too late.
To paraphrase Patton, A good plan executed today is better than a perfect plan executed too late.
I actually grew up in San Diego. Oceanside to be exact. Every time I go back I cant wait to get back home. It was crazy hectic 25 years ago and its even worse now. People driving 90mph in the slow lane lol. And no, I dont miss the beach lol
I live in the Bay area.I have a mortgage AND rent to pay (my job is in the city, 100+ miles away from where my house is). Yes, I had to buy a house 100+ miles from where I work because the prices are that bad. At least where I do live, I get land & sizable living space.
It's still probably 2x what you could get in the midwest
If it weren't for the abysmal weather during the winter months, I'd so love Idaho or Montana or the Dakotas (I hate snow).
It's still probably 2x what you could get in the midwest
If it weren't for the abysmal weather during the winter months, I'd so love Idaho or Montana or the Dakotas (I hate snow).
You're free to do whatever you want... I'm waiting until CASAA issues a call to action... it's not about "bowing" to anyone, it's about being organized and stepping forward with one voice as opposed to fragmenting the community. No one from CASAA or SFATA, both of which I am a member. It would be nice if RIP would coordinate with one or both organizations instead of wildly swinging a big stick loaded with, well, who knows what it's loaded with... that's the problem... We have no idea what we're signing. What words do they intend to put into my mouth - no one has said just yet. What does the letter look like, exactly? Is that too much to ask? I don't think so...
I live in the Bay area.I have a mortgage AND rent to pay (my job is in the city, 100+ miles away from where my house is). Yes, I had to buy a house 100+ miles from where I work because the prices are that bad. At least where I do live, I get land & sizable living space.
It's still probably 2x what you could get in the midwest
If it weren't for the abysmal weather during the winter months, I'd so love Idaho or Montana or the Dakotas (I hate snow).
We lived in San Francisco for a number of years as well. Our rent was more than our current mortgage AND car payment combined lol. Everything was so cheap out here, we bought a house and a car when we moved back to Lawrence lol.
I'm not sure that it's necessarily "bowing to CASAA"; I'm all for contacting your state's representatives with personal experiences regarding vaping, or any other issue, that's another tool that we should be utilizing. The more reps we can get to understand, the more it can possibly help. My concern and why I prefer to wait for a CTA is regarding FDA submissions. It should to be a very planned and informed rebuttal with the same type of legalese and specificity that the FDA uses. There's got to be some level of political seriousness and I believe CASAA has the team and experience to guide us into that joke of a realm.
Born and raised in San Diego, Coronado to be exact. When I lived there one could still afford to rent but those days are long gone with the crappiest of houses going for over 1 million on the island. Even in most of the rest of San Diego county a half million will only get you a 2/3 bedroom bungalow style house with barely a yard. For half a million in Omaha I bet I could get a McMansion.
I have a different prospective on this and here's why (bear with me here. it's long):
Five years ago the feds were trying to ban the keeping and selling of large constrictor snakes, and although I used to be a snake breeder that didn't breed the species of snake affected by this proposed ban, I fought this ban because I viewed it as another one of our rights being taken away from the American people based on inaccurate science and anti-pet organizations. (sound familiar?)
There was one "official" organization that fought the government against this ban in the interest of reptile breeders and pet owners, USARK (United States Association of Reptile Keepers). Just like CASAA is doing now, USARK was timing their attacks in a precisely-planned manner. Some reptile breeders/keepers didn't think that USARK was.moving "fast enough" and some simply didn't agree with the people running USARK, so a few larger breeders (ie; companies/vendors) took it upon themselves to start their own organization called NatPet.org (National Pet Organization), and although NatPet.org was to encompass all pets and not just reptiles, its roots were in the reptile community and its founders were reptile breeders. NatPet.org literally sprang out of nowhere with their own agenda and action plan to fight this ban. They had a very slick website and a easy-to-use form page where you could enter your information and personal story that would then be sent directly to the USFWS (United States Fish and Wildlife Service) and your government representatives in order to fight this proposed ban. USARK's plan at the time was a letter writing, calling and faxing campaign that was much harder to do and naturally took longer, but really is the sort of plan that government actually pays attention to.
In my opinion and in the opinion of many others, especially USARK, having more than one organization to support and follow started to fragment the community and disrupted the work that USARK methodically set in motion to fight this snake ban. Additionally NatPet drew dollars away from USARK at a time when they desperately needed every single penny to fight this ban on the national level and to lobby congress.
Just over a year later the ban was approved and went into affect shortly thereafter. You can no longer transport a larger snake, such as a boa constrictor, over state lines, nor can you sell certain snake species within the United States.
So I've seen this story play out once before and I for one will learn from the past and will only follow CASAA's plan even if it feels like it's taking a long time. That is unless it's endorsed by CASAA thenselves. Truth-be-told, these governmental situations are anything but speedy and their changes usually come with little warning between long periods of waiting. I encourage ALL to follow CASAA's plan exclusively.
A few months after I started vaping (almost 4 years ago) I just knew that I would be walking into another fight with the government over vaping rights, it was just a matter of when. It's scary how our rights are being taken from us very slowly, methodically and intentionally so we don't notice them disappearing and unite to fight for them. And that's what we NEED to keep these rights, we need to stay UNITED!
FYI, shortly after the snake ban NatPet.org disappeared from the face of the earth and the person who ran the organization stopped breeding snakes, disappeared from the snake breeder community and the funds raised through that organization are nowhere to be found.
(I'm not implying that FreeToVape.org is doing anything criminal)
Five years ago the feds were trying to ban the keeping and selling of large constrictor snakes, and although I used to be a snake breeder that didn't breed the species of snake affected by this proposed ban, I fought this ban because I viewed it as another one of our rights being taken away from the American people based on inaccurate science and anti-pet organizations. (sound familiar?)
There was one "official" organization that fought the government against this ban in the interest of reptile breeders and pet owners, USARK (United States Association of Reptile Keepers). Just like CASAA is doing now, USARK was timing their attacks in a precisely-planned manner. Some reptile breeders/keepers didn't think that USARK was.moving "fast enough" and some simply didn't agree with the people running USARK, so a few larger breeders (ie; companies/vendors) took it upon themselves to start their own organization called NatPet.org (National Pet Organization), and although NatPet.org was to encompass all pets and not just reptiles, its roots were in the reptile community and its founders were reptile breeders. NatPet.org literally sprang out of nowhere with their own agenda and action plan to fight this ban. They had a very slick website and a easy-to-use form page where you could enter your information and personal story that would then be sent directly to the USFWS (United States Fish and Wildlife Service) and your government representatives in order to fight this proposed ban. USARK's plan at the time was a letter writing, calling and faxing campaign that was much harder to do and naturally took longer, but really is the sort of plan that government actually pays attention to.
In my opinion and in the opinion of many others, especially USARK, having more than one organization to support and follow started to fragment the community and disrupted the work that USARK methodically set in motion to fight this snake ban. Additionally NatPet drew dollars away from USARK at a time when they desperately needed every single penny to fight this ban on the national level and to lobby congress.
Just over a year later the ban was approved and went into affect shortly thereafter. You can no longer transport a larger snake, such as a boa constrictor, over state lines, nor can you sell certain snake species within the United States.
So I've seen this story play out once before and I for one will learn from the past and will only follow CASAA's plan even if it feels like it's taking a long time. That is unless it's endorsed by CASAA thenselves. Truth-be-told, these governmental situations are anything but speedy and their changes usually come with little warning between long periods of waiting. I encourage ALL to follow CASAA's plan exclusively.
A few months after I started vaping (almost 4 years ago) I just knew that I would be walking into another fight with the government over vaping rights, it was just a matter of when. It's scary how our rights are being taken from us very slowly, methodically and intentionally so we don't notice them disappearing and unite to fight for them. And that's what we NEED to keep these rights, we need to stay UNITED!
FYI, shortly after the snake ban NatPet.org disappeared from the face of the earth and the person who ran the organization stopped breeding snakes, disappeared from the snake breeder community and the funds raised through that organization are nowhere to be found.
(I'm not implying that FreeToVape.org is doing anything criminal)
Very good knowledge in your own experience Kerig! Messing with government agencies takes a very experienced force carefully planned and executed. Remember, the government never acts fast in plane sight but things are happening behind closed doors which could bring down a big hammer on all of us in just a heartbeat.
Kerig, thank you so much for sharing this. I have had similar experiences in other areas. You worded this very well. I had been struggling with how to explain, so what you did here is wonderful!
I live maybe 2 miles from my darlin ASH. She's right - the market here is obscene.
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