So, a friend just got his stock clone a couple day back. Was with him today, wanted to see how his hit compared to mine. Just found out he was using the stock coils and hadn't cleaned the attie first. Well, I started to get really itchy in the chin and now it's most of my neck too. My throat is all itchy too. The liquid isn't the problem as he's using one that I always use, and have for a while now, with no reaction like this before. I just ordered silica to rebuild my own coil, and with never using silica before, i'm worried I have an allergy to it and am going to go have to buy something else to use for the wicks. Didn't know if it was because of something in the atomizer itself that got heated up because of not cleaning it first, or something in the stock coil that set it off. Does anyone know whats in the stock coil? Really needing some help here.
Friends Nimbus clone stock coil allergic reaction? Whats used in the stock coil? Help!
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I always clean my atties with 91% Isopropyl alcohol to remove any manufacturing oil and left over debri. I always torch my silica to sterilize, and burn off any foreign particles that may be present. So far I've had no reactions. Hope you get better.
If I torch the silica I get should that rid of the problem? Just hoping I didnt just spend a ton of money on something I'm allergic to.
What is probably going on is with him not cleaning the device first there are most probably oils and solvents from machining in there (especially on clones due to the need to make every possible penny of profit) that are now heating up and vaporizing themselves.
The best practice on clone RBA and RDA's is to clean them thoroughly with PGA and then rinse with water to clear any machining residue before 1st use - I know a lot of them come with a coil installed but who ever really wants to use the stock coil anyway?
The best practice on clone RBA and RDA's is to clean them thoroughly with PGA and then rinse with water to clear any machining residue before 1st use - I know a lot of them come with a coil installed but who ever really wants to use the stock coil anyway?
He did because he didn't have anything to make coils with. Are they silica normally?
If you have used an e-cig previously AT ALL, it is about a 99% you have used silica, so i highly doubt it was the silica itself you are reacting to.
Now an uncleaned factory coil, thats a whole different story. Most people immediately rebuild devices that come prebuilt, but i have test dry burned some of the pre-wrapped coils that have come on my drippers. The result was a plume of noxious rubber smelling smoke as the machine oils/contaminants burnt out of the wicks.
Moral: Always thoroughly clean/soak any new piece of equipment, just to be safe.
*EDIT* Also keep in mind silica wick is essentially no different than most glass you would normally encounter, so again, i think silica allergy is very unlikely
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Is this the first time vaping with silica ? I don't know if you are or not. I just clean all my gear. So far I've not had any reactions with everything I use.
Yes, those devices use silica. You can rule out an allergic reaction to silica.
Thank you, that just about solves my problem. Thank you all for the answers
it's not the silica; you use silica in all of your stock clearomizers and I'm sure you have been using them for a while now it must be as everyone said the machining residues and oils
my 2cents worth, most probably fromthe manufacturing oil and other stuff on it.....
if the cleaning doesnt do it I would have to say it is the wire. many stock coils are nichrome and people have reported allergy's/issues to this specific alloy blend.
Question on the Nichrome - is it possible they used cobalt in the manufacturing process? It's often used in manufacturing cheaper nickel and chromium products, such as jewelry, and is known for causing allergies, with rates as high as 9%.
It is also possible to be allergic to chrome or nickel themselves, but less likely - closer to 5% and 4% respectively. So you could add it up and say that as many as one in five people will have a problem with cheaply manufactured nichrome coils that may contain cobalt, and as many as one in ten could have a problem with cobalt-free coils.
Kanthal wire contains iron, chromium, and aluminum, with a much smaller chance of an allergic reaction; 5% for the chromium, well under 1% for aluminum, and if you were allergic to iron, you'd know. You could generalize this and say that one in twenty might have an allergic reaction to kanthal coils.
Keep in mind that these numbers are for a reaction of any kind - something minor could even be mistaken for throat hit; I've read posts about people describing TH as an itchy sensation. The chances of a more serious reaction could be one in thousands.
It is also possible to be allergic to chrome or nickel themselves, but less likely - closer to 5% and 4% respectively. So you could add it up and say that as many as one in five people will have a problem with cheaply manufactured nichrome coils that may contain cobalt, and as many as one in ten could have a problem with cobalt-free coils.
Kanthal wire contains iron, chromium, and aluminum, with a much smaller chance of an allergic reaction; 5% for the chromium, well under 1% for aluminum, and if you were allergic to iron, you'd know. You could generalize this and say that one in twenty might have an allergic reaction to kanthal coils.
Keep in mind that these numbers are for a reaction of any kind - something minor could even be mistaken for throat hit; I've read posts about people describing TH as an itchy sensation. The chances of a more serious reaction could be one in thousands.
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