Frontier Liquors in Evansville, Indiana – A brick and mortar store for all of your e-cig needs!

[JW50]

It didn't have anything to do with the smoke-free law. Technically package liquor stores are not permitted to sell e-cigs because they are not actually cigarettes made from tobacco. I will be working with my state organization to have them added to our commodities list, but I expect that will take some time. Since I wasn't allowed to sell electronic cigarettes in the first place their request that I remove the inventory within 24 hours isn't unreasonable.

Although you seem to view the 24 hour ATC directive as a non-issue, I note from a June 2006 "Package Liquor Store Commodities" list the following: "5. Tobacco products which include any products made from tobacco and any accessories used
incidental thereto. ". It seems to me that a reasonable argument exists that nicotine containing e-liquid is a "tobacco product" and that batteries and atomizers/cartomizers etc. are "accessories used incidental thereto". I have noted that some combined package liquor/tobacco retail outlets in Kentucky (although different laws) do sell e-cigs and e-cig supplies. However, I have not found such a Kentucky store that sells nicotine containing e-liquid separately. I presume that snus can be and is sold in retail package liquor stores in Indiana.

 

[thejohnnymac]

Although you seem to view the 24 hour ATC directive as a non-issue, I note from a June 2006 "Package Liquor Store Commodities" list the following: "5. Tobacco products which include any products made from tobacco and any accessories used
incidental thereto. ". It seems to me that a reasonable argument exists that nicotine containing e-liquid is a "tobacco product" and that batteries and atomizers/cartomizers etc. are "accessories used incidental thereto". I have noted that some combined package liquor/tobacco retail outlets in Kentucky (although different laws) do sell e-cigs and e-cig supplies. However, I have not found such a Kentucky store that sells nicotine containing e-liquid separately. I presume that snus can be and is sold in retail package liquor stores in Indiana.

The officers simply enforce the laws, and arguing with them wouldn't get me far. I have to appeal to the ATC for this to be added to the commodities list, and I would prefer to have e-cigs added to this list separate from tobacco. The good thing about this is that Indiana does not recognize e-cigarettes as tobacco. That means e-cigs are not subjected to the same regulations, taxation and bureaucracy as tobacco products. Also, the states set their own laws regarding alcohol sales. Even though Kentucky and Indiana are neighbors our laws for the sale of alcohol are completely different.

 

[unloaded]

I wouldn't push too hard either. All we need are those tax stamps on the juice bottles! Did you get the Halo juice in yet? Tried any? Whatcha think? LOL! I'd love to see your face the first drag.

 

[thejohnnymac]

I wouldn't push too hard either. All we need are those tax stamps on the juice bottles! Did you get the Halo juice in yet? Tried any? Whatcha think? LOL! I'd love to see your face the first drag.

No I haven't had a chance to sample them yet. The Halo order arrives tomorrow so we should have it in our system and on the shelves by Wednesday. If you think you will be by the store sometime this week I might wait until you get there to sample them, but I won't make any promises. I have heard some rave reviews about their stuff so I am pretty excited to try it out.

I will have their entire product line (19 e-liquids) available in the 7ml bottles (matching Halo's Website Price - $5.99) in 18mg and 24mg. I will also be carrying the Cool Mist, Tribeca & Torque56 in 30ml bottles in both 18mg and 24mg (matching Halo's Website Price - $19.99). I will also be taking requests to stock any item in any size & mg that they offer. Let me know in the store or on the forum.

 

[unloaded]

You don't need to wait for me to try them, just remember to give them a second try after the shock wears off! Your banner needs updated with new location. I'll try to make it in this week, I'm getting low on Torque.

 

[thejohnnymac]

Halo is in stock. We have all 19 flavors in the sample sizes (18mg & 24mg), and 3 flavors in the 30ml bottles(Torque, Cool Mist, & Tribeca - 18mg & 24mg). Also, we have opened up a bottle of all 19 flavors for in-store sampling! Please come by and give your opinion on them. We will be making another order in a a few to bulk up on the 30ml sizes, and the order will be based solely on our customers reviews of the products. If you like it we will stock it!

 

[four2109]

That's great news John. I wish I had seen this last week. I would have stopped in. That's a great location for me... except for the closing of Oak Hill Rd. Sigh. Still better than the traffic mess on Green River. You just can't win in this town.
I'll stop in this week. I used to buy smokes there. Will you have the "OPEN" sign on if you are there on Mon or Tue?
Yeah, we're better off if they aren't considered tobacco.

 

[thejohnnymac]

That's great news John. I wish I had seen this last week. I would have stopped in. That's a great location for me... except for the closing of Oak Hill Rd. Sigh. Still better than the traffic mess on Green River. You just can't win in this town.
I'll stop in this week. I used to buy smokes there. Will you have the "OPEN" sign on if you are there on Mon or Tue?
Yeah, we're better off if they aren't considered tobacco.

I always turn on the open sign if I am in the store. This week will be a little interesting due to some of my other obligations, but I should be there pretty often anyways. Feel free to call and see if we are open. The number is 812-297-0634.

-john

 

[JW50]

That's great news John. I wish I had seen this last week. I would have stopped in. That's a great location for me... except for the closing of Oak Hill Rd. Sigh. Still better than the traffic mess on Green River. You just can't win in this town.
I'll stop in this week. I used to buy smokes there. Will you have the "OPEN" sign on if you are there on Mon or Tue?
Yeah, we're better off if they aren't considered tobacco.

Just curious. Why better off if not considered tobacco? Certainly e-liquid is not tobacco but my understanding is that most, maybe all, nicotine in e-liquid is a derivative of tobacco. What is benefit of "overlooking"/proclaiming otherwise the reality of facts?

 

[RippleInStillWater]

Are you going to the greenfield meet?

 

[thejohnnymac]

Just curious. Why better off if not considered tobacco? Certainly e-liquid is not tobacco but my understanding is that most, maybe all, nicotine in e-liquid is a derivative of tobacco. What is benefit of "overlooking"/proclaiming otherwise the reality of facts?

As long as it isn't considered a tobacco product it isn't taxed or regulated like cigarettes. This subject is very politically oriented so I am going to point you to this subforum of ECF for more information - Legislation News. Another good source of information is the CASAA website.

 

[thejohnnymac]

Are you going to the greenfield meet?

If my wife let me off my leash more often I would be open to going to every vape meet and convention I could! When is the meet?

 

[RippleInStillWater]

Here's the post I saw elsewhere........

Vapor Lock is hosting a meet / BBQ / juice swap on Saturday, August 25 starting 4:00pm at 125 S State St, Suite B, Greenfield, Indiana 46140. (It's in a small strip mall just south of the main east/west road through that town.)

The Hoosier Vapers club will be there, how about you?

 

[four2109]

We are still waiting for a highway to there.

 

[unloaded]

Bump for the Hoosiers.
I got a new toy coming, I'll bring it by to show you once it gets here. More Greek Goodness.

 

[thejohnnymac]

Bump for the Hoosiers.
I got a new toy coming, I'll bring it by to show you once it gets here. More Greek Goodness.

Thanks for the bump! I will be around most of the week so come by and show me the latest and greatest. Also, I have another order from Halo on the way. We are expanding the line to include all flavors in 7ml & 30ml bottles (18mg & 24mg) soon. That includes their latest flavor Longhorn. It has already shipped, and I expect to see it by Saturday or Monday.

-john

 

[thejohnnymac]

We finally got all of the various Halo products on the shelf. We now carry everything they offer in 18 & 24mg in both 7ml & 30ml bottles. We also have some 12mg products for their more popular items.

Also, BIG NEWS.. We are on Facebook. I am still trying to get a handle on how that thing works, but I have got a couple of things it. I am working on a couple more tabs/pages including a CONTEST PAGE!! Considering we only have 6 likes right now your odds of winning the contest are pretty good. If you have any suggestions for the contest or the prize please let me know here or on our Facebook page! We have added a few new products, and I will be posting about them here as soon as I get them on the shelves. Thanks to everyone who has stopped by. We really appreciate the support!

-john

Here is the link one more time in case you missed it earlier Vapor Bank Facebook Page!!

 

[JW50]

Removed by JW50. Post post thinking - off topic comment.

 

[Bassmanspiff]

Bump for an awesome store. Ill be stopping in Thursday to possibly pick some stuff up.

 

[ruff]

I'll be sure to stop in next time I'm down that way for sure

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