FSC Cigarettes, Why I started Into Vaping

[htchhikr]

In the US we have been forced to smoke FSC Cigarettes. It's pretty much in every state now. The idea is your cigarette will burn out before you burn yourself alive for smoking in bed, or may also prevent wildfires. Most smokers hate them and say they make them sick. Google FSC Cigarette to see the petition site and all the complaints from sick people.

They say they have EVA ethylene vinyl acetate (EVA) copolymer in them to stop the burn if your not dragging it. This is used as carpet adhesive among other things. tobacco companies say it's just extra paper to stop the burn.

According to this patent that isn't true. US Patent 6,854,469 Filed by a major tobacco company. Here is an excerpt:

"One cigarette seam adhesive formulation suitable for application to the paper wrapper to form the bands is an adhesive formulated by the assignee of the present invention under the designation CS-1242. The CS-1242 formulation is an emulsion-based adhesive consisting of about 87%-88% by weight of an ethylene vinyl acetate (EVA) copolymer E sold under the designation Resyn 32-0272 by National Starch & Chemical Company of Bridgewater, N.J. and about 12%-13% by weight of an adhesive concentrate stabilizer known as AC-9 and made by the assignee of the present invention. The AC-9 adhesive concentrate stabilizer consists of about 92% by weight of water and solids of about 8% by weight of a polyvinyl acetate resin sold under the designation Airvol 205 by Air Products & Chemicals, Inc. of Allentown, Pa. The CS-1242 formulation has a viscosity in the range of from about 200 to about 600 centipoise, a percent by weight of solids from about 48% to about 50%, and a pH range from about 4.0 to about 6.0. It should be understood that variations in the foregoing weight percentages are possible depending on the film-forming capability of the adhesive (the reduction of permeability of the paper where the bands are applied) and the ability of the adhesive to be applied in line (the rheology, the drip and spatter resistance characteristics and the like)."

I got this info from vaping.com (vaping.com/index.php/fsc-cigarettes) but I cant link to them.

The worst part about this is most analog smokers don't even know!!! Just look for the FSC on your analog pack (picture is on that vaping site. So smokes are more toxic than ever! Cant wait to start vaping.

 

[BriDog67]

The FSC cigarettes gave me headaches. Between that and $3.00 in taxes being added, I knew it was time to quit. I was unaware of e-cigs at the time and just dealt with it for a couple months.

E-cigs have been a Godsend for me.

 

[batexp]

That's some of what pushed me to look into ecigs besides the other nastys in there. The new crap they were using for the "fire safe" aspect smelled so bad that I could not stand it. Yes' I know that I'm suposed to be "smell dead" cause I'm a smoker, but I had a very keen sense of smell and taste even when I had smoked for 32 years. My wife, who never smoked (and I rarely smoked in her presence) could never believe how well I could pick out seasonings in dishes or smell something well before her. But I digress. That crap really smelled up a car and cloths something fierce. Glad to be off em.

 

[alsmom]

The FSC second hand smoke is so bad! I couldn't stand the smoke off my own cigarette if I left it in an ashtray, my husband and one other friend(also a smoker) agreed. It is nasty!

 

[Mordred]

Fire-safe cigarettes? Did whoever came up with that idea actually think for at least half a second?

Not heard of such nonsense here in Europe yet, but yeah, good thing I got started on e-cigs if that´s the shape of things to come.

 

[AngusATAT]

I quit smoking just in time. That is some scary stuff!

 

[Dredbull]

It was not the fda, not BT but your fire chiefs!

Yep the same people who run into burning buildings to drag you out went out became lobbying goons for FSC additives.

 

[ckc]

Fire-safe cigarettes? Did whoever came up with that idea actually think for at least half a second?

Not heard of such nonsense here in Europe yet, but yeah, good thing I got started on e-cigs if that´s the shape of things to come.

Its coming to Europe in 2012 i believe.

 

[sbphotog]

Just what smokers need....yet another chemical to inhale. My husband has been complaining too. He says they taste horrible, and I can vouch for the fact that they smell even worse than before.

I don't really know who's idea it was to create a fire safety cigarette, but I do know one thing...Nothing pisses a smoker off more than a cigarette that won't stay lit. Alot more smokers are going to be looking for alternatives now.

 

[AngusATAT]

I can't believe the FDA is allowing this. That crap cannot be good to burn and inhale. Not that any crap in a cig can be good to burn and inhale, but you get my point.

 

[gramakittycat]

Ican honestly say I had no idea that cigs were being made "fire safe" until I mentioned to someone that I was noticing that my cigs were needing to be relite

 

[Bennywow]

Should have bought stock in bic lighters

 

[kujo1967]

I had been aware of e-cigs for a while now and never had much more than a passing curiosity about them. However, after being a lifelong marlboro regular box smoker that could tell the difference between soft pack and box, ( seriously, theres a difference.) when these FSC smokes came out I took one puff and and knew something had changed. It took a little while to find out that they had started making these cursed FSC's and thats when I started looking at e-cigs.
I finally received my Blu starter pack and am delving into the e-cig world with a vengence, all because someone somewhere mandated these (supposed) fire safe cigs.
So I suppose thanks are in order to the powers that be that screwed the tobacco industry out of those of us that WOULD have been lifelong smokers.
I could put up with the price,the smell, the risks and even the condemnation of society, but once they started jacking with the flavor that was the final straw.
As soon as my 36mg e-juice comes I'm done with analogs.

 

[htchhikr]

Good luck Kujo!

From what I've found the cigarette companies do in fact use extra paper to make the "speed bumps", but the way they adhere the paper is with carpet glue containing the toxic EVA.

“The Harvard School of Health reported that when comparing NY Cigarettes (FSC) versus Regular Cigarettes, the FSC cigarettes produced 13.9% more Naphthalene and 11.4% more carbon monoxide than regular cigarettes. Naphthalene is commonly found in moth balls, and exposure in high amounts can result in headache, nausea, vomiting, ........, malaise, confusion, anemia, jaundice, convulsions, and coma. Therefore, it has been proven that FSC cigarettes contain higher levels of chemicals that are harmful to smokers.”

Are the new FSC fire-safe cigarettes making smokers sicker than ever?

 

[luigi]

I can't stick with FSC's either. I just purchased a Vapor King to try. (Chocolate flavor) It should arrive later this week. I am excited to try it out. My Benson & Hedges intake has been cut by over 50%. They don't need to make cigarettes illegal, they just need to make them all FSC and people will quit!!

I am hoping ecigs will satisfy my nic cravings. I also hope the Vapor King will provide enough vapor to give a realistic simulation of actual smoking.

 

[Kurt]

I believe there was more to it than just fire, which is why I took up vaping to. Think about it: if the cig does not burn on its own, then it does not burn down between drags. If you are committed to an analog for a break, as most smokers are, then this is important. The cig does not reduce in length between drags, so you end up smoking twice or more of the tobacco per cig, because you are committed to smoking a cigarette. Thus we get more nicotine, more alkaloids, more of everything to further increase the addiction. Brilliant, if you ask me. I blamed this for the fact that in the last several months before vaping, analogs made me feel so much more toxic and nic'd up than ever before in my 12 years of smoking. The antiburn compounds aside, the amount you actually smoke increases dramatically. At least that what I think.

 

[jj2]

If you haven't figured it out yet, smokers have become disposable---just like our old folks.
When prices are raised on tobacco, it's not to get the veteran smoker to quit, it's to stop kids from taking it up.

If anything they want the long time smoker to keep at it, just not around the self righteous non smoker. They want all that tax money you pay until you've taken your last wheezing breath and they could careless that you are taking in even more chemicals to hurry the process up.

Probably want you to kick the bucket right before you start collecting SS.

 

[DC2]

If you haven't figured it out yet, smokers have become disposable---just like our old folks.
When prices are raised on tobacco, it's not to get the veteran smoker to quit, it's to stop kids from taking it up.

If anything they want the long time smoker to keep at it, just not around the self righteous non smoker. They want all that tax money you pay until you've taken your last wheezing breath and they could careless that you are taking in even more chemicals to hurry the process up.

Probably want you to kick the bucket right before you start collecting SS.

If that is NOT what they are really doing, it should be.
It's freaking brilliant.

 

[ProfessorDaffy]

It's about time they stopped protecting us from ourselves. Where are the fire safe matches? Remember when lighters where made child-safe. You couldn't hardly light the things. They had little buttons you had to press or hold to the side. People got fed up so they made them just-child-safe-enough. Now you can light them with ease.

--Prof Daffy
P.S. 4000 chemicals. 4001 chemicals. What's the difference? Deadly or deadlier is still deadly.

 

[Brewster 59]

So I would like to know did the fda study the long term effects of these fsc anallogs? I bet not but they are on the market. So how does the arguement that ecig has not been studied and should be taken off the market hold any water when these new analogs have not been studied either. I think a class action lawsuit needs to be filed if the fda moves against eni