GeekVape Zeus RTA

[Heartsdelight]

Thanks @Heartsdelight !

I just pulled them away from the slots and cut down on an angle giving a little more room for the air bubble. It's working well now but might need a little bigger coil.

I also got my B2K RSA TRVP edition in the mail too, it's a really sweet squonk rda. I spent half an hour just mixing and matching top caps and drip tips.

Glad it’s working better now.
Don’t tempt me with more goodies still waiting for my SXK Entheon bf rda

 

[Reeversong]

Alright Zeus folks I am in need of your guidance. I started noticing some extended burning and vapor production for several seconds after I let go of my fire button. Shortly after this started happening I started getting the occasional dry hit. This build only had about 5 tanks ran through it which is unusual as I usually get 2 or 3 times that many between re-wicks. When I removed the wick from the coil it was in two pieces. It was like it had burnt apart in the middle of the coil but it didn't look burnt. It looked like it had been torn or cut in half. Any suggestions?

Could you post your build, wick material, wicking method, liquid ratio, power settings, etc.? That would probably help out a lot.

I am getting about 5-7 days out of a wick, using KGD cotton on a 3mm coil. I use 33% of the cotton pad and make a Scottish roll. It is fairly tight getting it in, but once I get it in there I thin out about 35% of the ends. I cut the ends long enough so that they hit the deck, and I spread them out a little bit.

Hope that helps you out a little bit.

 

[Walter_Sobchak]

Could you post your build, wick material, wicking method, liquid ratio, power settings, etc.? That would probably help out a lot.

I am getting about 5-7 days out of a wick, using KGD cotton on a 3mm coil. I use 33% of the cotton pad and make a Scottish roll. It is fairly tight getting it in, but once I get it in there I thin out about 35% of the ends. I cut the ends long enough so that they hit the deck, and I spread them out a little bit.

Hope that helps you out a little bit.

Most certainly. Should have known that. F*#@ing newbies!

Fused clapton, Ni80, 26x2 core, 36 outer, 3 mm inner diameter

organic Japanese cotton squares from Amazon, using about a 1/4 of the pad to wick, thinning out about 30-40 percent of the tail with the wick barely touching the base after it's wet

70/30 juice ratio

started off vaping in the 50-55 watt range with airflow about 3/4 open

When I started noticing the occasional partial dry hit I dialed the wattage down to the low to mid 40s. I also started loosening the fill top every once in awhile thinking that maybe that would help with the wicking.

Many thanks for any wisdom you can share!

 

[Letitia]

Alright Zeus folks I am in need of your guidance. I started noticing some extended burning and vapor production for several seconds after I let go of my fire button. Shortly after this started happening I started getting the occasional dry hit. This build only had about 5 tanks ran through it which is unusual as I usually get 2 or 3 times that many between re-wicks. When I removed the wick from the coil it was in two pieces. It was like it had burnt apart in the middle of the coil but it didn't look burnt. It looked like it had been torn or cut in half. Any suggestions?

Sounds like user error. Maybe the wick was thinner than you noticed in that spot. Or putting the tank on pulled the wick nearly apart. Another maybe is the fibers weren't straight in a small section of the wick.

 

[Walter_Sobchak]

Sounds like user error. Maybe the wick was thinner than you noticed in that spot. Or putting the tank on pulled the wick nearly apart. Another maybe is the fibers weren't straight in a small section of the wick.

I'm sure it's user error. Remember "Hi. My name is Randy and I'm a slow learner"? I've had the occasional dry hit but nothing like this last episode. Would the broken wick in the coil be the cause of the excessive sizzling after the button press?

 

[Letitia]

Would the broken wick in the coil be the cause of the excessive sizzling after the button press?

I would assume so. Liquid combined with lack of adequate wick would likely sizzle. Could have been a flawed cotton pad. While rare, I have had a pad or two with lumps. I catch them with scottish roll tho. Do you remove cotton pad skins?

 

[puffon]

Would the broken wick in the coil be the cause of the excessive sizzling after the button press?

Clapton coils will do this.
More coil mass, slower ramp up, slower cool down.
You could try releasing the fire button before stopping your draw.

 

[Reeversong]

@Walter_Sobchak

Have you tried using the Scottish roll? It does sound like you don't have enough wick in the coil itself. But just remember to really thin the ends out if you are using more wick then you are used too. I would definitely take @puffon 's advice about releasing the fire button before finishing your draw though.

 

[KC0YNU]

@Letitia what size allen wrench for the hex head grub screws?
ordered them then thought of this.

 

[Letitia]

@Letitia what size allen wrench for the hex head grub screws?
ordered them then thought of this.

Which ever one fits that I have.

 

[KC0YNU]

Which ever one fits that I have.

OK then, what ever fits it is LOL

 

[Marc411]

Just as a point of reference, since receiving my Zeus I have used several different coils and configurations and the one that performs consistently is a spaced 24 gauge 4 wrap SS 316L at 2.5mm. The build comes right around .21Ω. One key to a build this size is that the deck gets incredible airflow around the coil which keeps the temp of the coil balanced while you are vaping. With the unrestricted AF around the coil the cotton also also lasts much longer as there are not significant spikes in temp while you are vaping and the coil cools quickly when you release the fire button.

Not being a cloud chaser I vape this build at around 22 watts and consistently get great flavor and vapor production and never a dry hit. I do comb my tails (cotton bacon) and at 2.5mm I believe the wicking, ramp up and cool down of the coil is right where it needs to be for this tank. My tails brush the deck.

Sometimes less is better and building everywhere from 4mm to 2.5mm, claptons, and stapled or just straight SS 316L has led me to believe that just because the space is available for a larger coil doesn't mean that the performance of the tank needs a large build. Sometimes simple is just the best way to go.

 

[Walter_Sobchak]

@Walter_Sobchak

Have you tried using the Scottish roll? It does sound like you don't have enough wick in the coil itself. But just remember to really thin the ends out if you are using more wick then you are used too. I would definitely take @puffon 's advice about releasing the fire button before finishing your draw though.

Actually when I rewicked it (after the issues) I used the Scottish roll. I had used that method before with the Zeus and previously it had worked fine for a couple of days then I had to rewick due to hits starting to get dry at the end of long draws. This time I thinned the ends out a lot more than I had before and so far so good. Many thanks!

 

[Letitia]

I like to try different wicking methods, always go back to KGD Scottish roll.

 

[Walter_Sobchak]

Clapton coils will do this.
More coil mass, slower ramp up, slower cool down.
You could try releasing the fire button before stopping your draw.

Thanks for the advice. I've started doing this but so far it's not been an issue since I rewicked using a Scottish roll.
Many thanks!

 

[Walter_Sobchak]

I would assume so. Liquid combined with lack of adequate wick would likely sizzle. Could have been a flawed cotton pad. While rare, I have had a pad or two with lumps. I catch them with scottish roll tho. Do you remove cotton pad skins?

Yes, ma'am. I most certainly do. The pads are the only wicking material I've ever used and it didn't take me long to learn why all the videos I watched recommended peeling off the skins.

 

[Letitia]

It was almost an epiphany moment when I came across Rip's Scottish roll tutorial. I was so bad at wicking before that. Everything seemed to come together for me afterwards. I bought a box of rayon and haven't opened it, threw in a cabinet.

 

[MidwestGuy]

When I'm in a hurry, I do a somewhat modified (lazy?) scottish roll: remove skins (always), gently pull apart/break it up a bit, then roll it together.

When I'm not in a hurry, I do a traditional scottish roll: cut pad in to thirds (3 wicks total), carefully remove skins so as not to remove too much cotton, then pull the threads apart until you can almost see through it evenly throughout the entire pad, cut 1-2mm strips off the ends (parallel to the threads) to get rid of the thicker ends that I can't easily pull apart, roll it up and wick.

For each, I do a thorough combing with my sharp pointy tweezers on the very ends of the wick in order to thin/declump, trying not to disturb the cotton in the coil too much. This provides efficient/quick delivery to the thicker stuff running through the coil.

They're both somewhat similar in performance, but the traditional/full scottish roll does provide a bit more saturation and flavor, and is more consistent/produces the same result every time.

 

[TrollDragon]

It was almost an epiphany moment when I came across Rip's Scottish roll tutorial. I was so bad at wicking before that. Everything seemed to come together for me afterwards. I bought a box of rayon and haven't opened it, threw in a cabinet.

Sorry, I just can't like a post that throws an unused box of Rayon into a closet.
Oh the horror...

 

[Major911]

Happy New year to me! My Zeus finally arrived only took 2 1/2 months ... sheesh.

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