genesis style atomizer (AGA-T)

[BkoJoe]

Hey ECF i recently got my AGA-T ordered and when i received it i was amazed at the build

so i quickly started to watch how to's on you tube and found out how to build the wicks and coils but a few issues...


Ok so i made my wick (may have used too much of the SS mesh size *400) rolled over a paperclip and then oxidized with a torch and water quench (5 times)

then added juice (70 pg / 30 VG) and burned off like 5 times

then wrapped my coils (5 wraps) cant remember the gauge i used for the life of me (had 3 different wires used them all up tinkering) ended up with 1.4 - 1.8 ohms
also i oxidized my wire

filled the tank and tried vaping....

now the problem is when the cap is off and i blow on the wick while burning i get massive amounts of vapor but when i put the cap on and try to vape it its very harsh throat hit and like no vapor production but the flavor of the juice is very strong.

what can i do to tone down the throat hit/harshness and get more vapor production out of this tank?

once i get more wire i was thinking about trying the wrapping paper around the wick at the coil

 

[Thrasher]

this is the only failing of the T with the threaded cap not lining up the vent on the wick.
throat hit and vapor production in a Geni is determined by the vent hole on the side of the cap in reference to the wick, dead on the wick massive vapor, turned off the wick and vapor decreases and Th inchreases.
the cap will be a little loose but turn it so the hole is right on the wick and try again.

 

[papercrow]

I remember watching a video where they said something about the airhole being lined up with the wick. If you want less throat hit and more vapor then I think the hole needs to be twisted away from the wick.

Feel free to correct me if I am totally wrong!

 

[BkoJoe]

it definitely makes a difference but still not like i expected.... i was still looking for more vapor production.. may fill the old hole with some JB weld and re drill the hole right over the wick, thanks for the fast response.

also when twisted opposite of the wick it looks like it creates less vapor.

 

[elmattias]

A larger hole also helps...admittedly I like a tighter draw...but I needed to rout that hole out a little larger still...also you might want to empty the juice from the tank and check for hot spots, because unless all the coils glow its not going to perform well.

Sent from EVOLTEd

 

[Thrasher]

yup less vapor, more TH you might have to just try a few times - as with all things, mesh wicks sometimes take a few tries, also might have to try a different mesh size for the fluid.
but you would be wise to hit the RBA forums for all kinds of ideas and help.
Rebuildable Atomizer Systems

 

[MS44]

This doesn't sound like a newbie thread to me... lots of acronyms and im lost... lol All I know is TH haha

 

[BkoJoe]

RBA = Rebuildable atomizer (True it is an advanced tank/atomizer but these are newb Q's for it)

TH = Throat hit

The T = AGA T (genesis RBA)

PG/VG polypropylene glycol / Vegetable Glycerine (E-Juice)

any i missed?

The genesis style atomizer has a wick and the air hole is directly in front of the wick on the top cap of the tank instead of drawing air from the battery connection hence all the talk about adjusting the air hole... they are truly an interesting tank / atomizer and i like the overall build of it but it is much more confusing to build and use than a standard carto tank or cartridge style

A larger hole also helps...admittedly I like a tighter draw...but I needed to rout that hole out a little larger still...also you might want to empty the juice from the tank and check for hot spots, because unless all the coils glow its not going to perform well.

Sent from EVOLTEd

Okay, i missed that step, when the tank is full there was a hot spot near the top of the coil (i think i got it squared away now, but i never got a glow from the coil when firing it at all.... ill drain it and recheck when i leave work but just kinda vaping it as is for now...

Also anyone know a good source for wire that would be like a local shop (home depot / lowes) that i could go get some from time to time or will i have to find an online vendor... also what gauge wire should i be using with a mesh wick?


Also where can i get mesh (instead of ordering online)?

 

[gavind4]

Do you have any juice that is higher than 3o vg?

 

[BkoJoe]

Do you have any juice that is higher than 3o vg?

No unfortunately i dont, just the pre mades from the local shop, i plan to try some 50/50 in it when i can afford to order some.

 

[ckone180]

You're best bet in online for both. You'll quickly realize that you do not go through it nearly as much once you have the hang of it.

 

[gavind4]

You are making wicks at work? Pretend you are sick and go home! (stick your finger down your throat) What are you running this on?(don't go home. I just saw your Location is Lost wages)

 

[BkoJoe]

no i am making wicks at home just at work right now, and im the manager of the store so i dont have to worry to much

 

[XfooYen]

That wick and coil are going to need time to break in. Aside from lining up the air hole and perhaps widening it, which will reduce th, the experience will improve after the coil has vaped through a couple of tank fulls of juice.

 

[Thrasher]

yea the best sorces for wire are online its usually cheap and you only use an inch or so at a time. a lot of people are buying wire mesh in bulk at grainger and master-carr.
theres a whole thread devoted to it:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ss-mesh-325-400-please-list-sources-here.html

 

[BkoJoe]

You are making wicks at work? Pretend you are sick and go home! (stick your finger down your throat) What are you running this on?(don't go home. I just saw your Location is Lost wages)

Sorry just saw your second question in the post

Im running it on my LT V2 and now it seems to be vaping really well, vapor production isnt grand but it seems to be getting better, the flavor is good and the TH is down now that i moved the air hole directly over the wick.

 

[gavind4]

Sweet! See you over on the RBA forum. Best Wishes.

 

[Colty]

Got one today and I find it easier to rebuild than the vivi. The flavor is unbelievable and I'm gonna start mixing my juice at 50/50. If your not a DIY mixer give greenman ejuice a shot they make great blends and mix it nice for ya. Anyway, first day on the aga-t I give it a huge thumbs up on ease of rebuild and performance. My air-hole lines up absolutely perfect and just the sturdiness of this stainless steel is great, I mean this baby is solid and heavy. Very well built and designed.