Need some advice from seasoned Genesis users. I'm new to the game but totally in love with the vape. My only issue is that my atomizer keeps flooding with eliquid. I use 400 mesh, around 2.5 cm wide and I vape Boba's Bounty with 3 wraps on the coil. What can I do to reduce the amount of liquid being sucked up by the mesh? Any help is greatly appreciated.
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They say that the 325 mesh is better for the VG, Though I've always used the 400 myself, but you may want to give the 325 a try it may help ya some with your issue, not sure but worth a try maybe. You can also try pinching the top of your wick closed a little bit too.
If your wick has has a hole in the center, the volcanic effect of rising hot fluid can flood and that technically is not wicking. Reduce the hole size. I roll 45cm around a small paperclip to get 2mm dia wick of 400 ss. If rolled tight with a lot of mesh it will wick and not flood. I use 6 or 7 wraps 32 awg 2.6 to 2.8 ohms at 4.5 to 5.5v and vape 6ml per day on my Lines.
Funny, those are the values that I have arrived at with a solid fold in the middle when rolling the mesh, as little 'tube' as possible (tried 4 different mesh sizes between 300 and 400) I think the lower mesh number worked best (least wicking), also i use .2 wire so I do less wraps but I also measure 2.8 ohms. Would higher mesh size contribute to more wicking? Or is it the other way around (higher mesh number wicks slower)?
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If you get the same ohms with the same wire with less wraps it is because your wick is thicker, ohms are really measured in the length of a given wire, about 1 ohm per inch on 32awg .2 wire. 300 mesh hardly wicks at all, just put a 3 inch 300 mesh dry wick in an inch of juice in a small bottle overnight and the next day you will see it is still dry above the juice line. Wicking is greater the smaller the holes, it is capillary action, a law of physics.
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Check your ohms. 3 wraps around a 2.5mm wick including the run to the post is just a little more than an inch of wire, and that would be around 1.4 ohms. The best and safest way to ck ohms is the length of the wire coiled. Many variables with the SS oxidation can change meter readings.
I don't know what meter you are using but touch the two leads together and see what ohm reading the meter has, this must be deducted from the reading you get for the coil reading. Mine has an inherent .4 ohms so if I read 2.8 ohms it is actually 2.4ohms for the coil.
I don't know what meter you are using but touch the two leads together and see what ohm reading the meter has, this must be deducted from the reading you get for the coil reading. Mine has an inherent .4 ohms so if I read 2.8 ohms it is actually 2.4ohms for the coil.
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Measure an inch and read the ohms, should be 1.1 ohms more or less. If not it is not .20 kanthal 32awg.
American wire gauge and 32awg is .2mm, your wire must be thinner if it is giving 1.7 ohms per inch it is probably awg 34 .16mm. Awg 36 very thin .127mm is used in many original attys.
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Yes and no, the thinner wire gets hotter and could be your problem causing the fluid to boil up thru the wick like a mini volcano, most of us have found that the kanthal A1 32awg or .20 is best on 400 mesh for these wick/coil combinations.
Pega, there were a lot of issues with getting the wrong wire from what was advertised online on ebay or allegro, I can verify that this one is accurate but sold out ATM:
Resistance heating wire, Kanthal A-1 32 awg 75ft | eBay
Maybe others have reliable available sources...
Resistance heating wire, Kanthal A-1 32 awg 75ft | eBay
Maybe others have reliable available sources...
I have one more local vendor to try locally here in Hungary. He appears to be legit (says that the wires ohm rating matches that of ,2 kanthal: 43,7 ohm/meter) so I will let you guys know how I fare with that once it arrives. Thanks for the advice!
If that fails I will try to find other reliable international sources that have some available on here...
If that fails I will try to find other reliable international sources that have some available on here...
I have finally found a setup that works and vapes well, at least with a fully charged 18650 (sadly this is not the ideal setup, for vapor consistency and staying power this technology (genesis) would require a big battery regulated voltage mod to function well for any 'normal' amount of time, no?
edit: I forgot to mention that I made this wick from 4.5 cm wide, no hole in the center 200 .028 mm wire mesh, that they sent along with my order for free! There was a letter that came with it that this is a free sample for us smokers to try and comment on the benefits of this mesh that matches our filtration needs but costs less than higher mesh sheets. I am not the most experienced, but it seems to be working better for ME. I also imagine the coils are also helping (many more). In the final attempt you can see in the picture, I made the chimney higher so it MAY not be the mesh (but it is the most easy to work with and wicks really well, dunno if the best though, gotta try a 325 mesh with this method). As usual, many things to play with. Thanks for the tips, it was an uphill struggle
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Nice and clean construction there, glad you got it working. In answer to your question about consistency and the fully charged 18650, yes regulated is better. A big battery that can supply the current should be good from full to about 3.7v and then it's too much effort. This is basically true for all systems, not unique to a genisis. Smaller cells that are high drain will work similarly, but not last as long. A regulated mod doesn't have to be big either, but that longer lasting part does require more sizable batteries.
An easy fix for you would be to use that same mod there with a 18490 IMR and a Kick module without any further modifications, but I have heard it is not very long lasting/ efficient. Also it is not exactly cheap. If you are willing to build something yourself a regulated battery mod can be much smaller too.
I'm surprised you are liking the #200 mesh, I am curious for your comparison to #325, is this from themeshcompany?
An easy fix for you would be to use that same mod there with a 18490 IMR and a Kick module without any further modifications, but I have heard it is not very long lasting/ efficient. Also it is not exactly cheap. If you are willing to build something yourself a regulated battery mod can be much smaller too.
I'm surprised you are liking the #200 mesh, I am curious for your comparison to #325, is this from themeshcompany?
Yes it is. Dunno, vaping 100% bobab's bounty. SS threads are .028 thickness, from the impression I got they sent out different thicknesses.
Thanks for the info regarding batts, may have to consider getting a regular sized provari and a z-attty instead of the zenesis mini I was gunning for
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