Genisis LV and Box Kronos

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Quick lol yeh i took the hit. what can i say Airborne Rangers all the way and MX was also and thats how Airborne Infantry stay together. Right MX yo Brother in arms where are you. for the sake of vaping i just saved your .... at least say hey Hoo Ahhhhhhh

LOL Rangers Lead the Way. Thanks buddy :)
 
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Lorderos can you or do you have any info on the box Kronos? i mean like is it just 3.7v, is it all mechanical or wires? any kind of info . does it have a processor and what does that do if it has it? thanks for any info.

Sorry for the slow response today, I've been unusually busy at work today. I don't have any info on it yet other than is on the site right now. In case you did not see it there, I will post it here :) By the specs, it does have a processor of some kind since it looks like the settings are done via the USB connection from your computer. My guess is a PIC of some type like an AVR or a D2 or some other usb connected micorprocessor but I could be wrong as I do not have the full specs yet. From my understanding of the info I have been able to find and read so far, it looks like they will come fully assembled.

These are the specs from the site.

Box Kronos

This box is out of aluminum and powder coated. Deliverable in three colours and transparent. Because of the different battery connector this box is very variable. To change the battery connector very easy we offer different conenctors as an option.

Features
- RCA connector
- 18650 battery unprotected
- battery holder with protection circuit
- control electronic with micro processor
- operation by one push button
- status indication by 2 LED
- polished brass ring 21/19,5 mm
- polished reduction brass ring 21/14,5 mm
- charging via Mini USB

Delivery
- Box with brass rings
- charger 5V/500 mA with Mini USB cable


I think this answers all of the questions on your post, if you have any more feel free to ask and I'll try to get the info from Tai Pan :)
 

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I'm guessing the usb is only for charging.
The microprocessor is to control and set voltage.
I expect the voltage is fixed. If it is selectable it will be done through button presses (like 3 times quickly type of thing).
The electronic (voltage) control will be to output a fixed voltage. Either below or above the nominal or (varying voltage) at the battery. A Li-Ion battery is about 4v fully charged and will run down to about 3.2v depleted. A voltage regulator will provide a fixed voltage (constant) from fully charged to fully depleted. It does this by varying the instantaneous discharge rate of the battery. For example the voltage regulator might provide a fixed 4.5v output at the connector or it might provide a fixed 3.0v at the connector. Just examples of voltages outside of the normal voltages at the battery. Could be anything in between as well. The protection circuit will protect from short, over max discharge rate, and under charge.

haha, that's my guess :) (I hope I win, I hope I win, ...)
 
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When you order the shop sends an confirmation eMail automatically. Than I type it into an ERP system. Therefore the invoice may need up to four days. But isn't a confirmation enough that your oder is placed for the moment?

I believe the confirmation is enough. I think the members are just very excited to get a Genisis and want to make sure they are doing everything right. Most of us here in the US are used to having to pay up first before getting an order confirmation. Just a little culture shock I think :)
 

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I'm guessing the usb is only for charging.
The microprocessor is to control and set voltage.
I expect the voltage is fixed. If it is selectable it will be done through button presses (like 3 times quickly type of thing).
The electronic (voltage) control will be to output a fixed voltage. Either below or above the nominal or (varying voltage) at the battery. A Li-Ion battery is about 4v fully charged and will run down to about 3.2v depleted. A voltage regulator will provide a fixed voltage (constant) from fully charged to fully depleted. It does this by varying the instantaneous discharge rate of the battery. For example the voltage regulator might provide a fixed 4.5v output at the connector or it might provide a fixed 3.0v at the connector. Just examples of voltages outside of the normal voltages at the battery. Could be anything in between as well. The protection circuit will protect from short, over max discharge rate, and under charge.

haha, that's my guess :) (I hope I win, I hope I win, ...)

I think you are close. I know I read somewhere that the voltages are selectable as a percentage of battery power. I am not 100% sure what the range selections are. I think you could be right about the button pushes to make changes (though I am fairly certain that I read that the voltage changes are done via software. I will see if I can track down where I read that and will post it up as soon as I do.
 

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Close is also missed.

The box has an internal main switch, one button and two LED.

- main on
- push button (box starts with saved power setting, first time with 80% with PWM) - vape
- three clicks - programming mode. With every click the power setting raises up by 5%. When passing 100% it starts at 50% again
- after 10 sec. of no action the box leaves progamming mode stops and normal vaping with the last set value starts again.
- five clicks - electronic locked or delocked

- battery voltage below 3,4 V - blinking LED as indication

Mini-USB is only for charging. For what else shall it be?
Processor is an Atiny 25.

The name of the machiner is Andrey. :)
 

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So a technical question...

Why are your threads for the cap m12 x .75? the dse701 tip appears to be an m11.5 x .75 or .8 . Bulli does the same thing and i'm really not sure why. The reason i can see is if someone is using a standard tap and die to make the threads, but on a CNC lathe that is typically difficult and slower way of doing things.

Just a curiosity question really, but as an engineer/machinist, i'm not seeing the reason.
 

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So a technical question...

Why are your threads for the cap m12 x .75? the dse701 tip appears to be an m11.5 x .75 or .8 . Bulli does the same thing and i'm really not sure why. The reason i can see is if someone is using a standard tap and die to make the threads, but on a CNC lathe that is typically difficult and slower way of doing things.

Just a curiosity question really, but as an engineer/machinist, i'm not seeing the reason.

You know I was thinking about this a little the other night while staring at my Darwin.... It may be that most do this because people whine about tight threads....
 

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then i would just oversize the threads a little, (very easy on a cnc lathe), like 11.6, maybe 11.7. going all the way to 12 is way oversize. One problem that could arise is consistency. if the m12 is over-tolerance, it is possible the 701 tip won't have sufficient bite to actually work. I know .5mm doesn't sound like a lot, but it makes a difference as all the tolerances can stack up.

i'm not attacking anyone here, nor saying it was the wrong decision. I'm just curious why that was the decision.
 

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Very easy to clear: Other countries - other habbits.

We use 12x0,5 because we have standard mouthpieces with that thread and our user didn't like the straight 8mm pieces.

In our first batch we delivered reduction rings with M12x0,75 to 8mm. But they where not often used and we left them away.

Further on we are doing mouthpieces in different colours like this ones:

mouthpiece.jpg


If needed we can do the reduction rings again. Price would be 2 EUR.
 
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