Getting a bit cofuuused!

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Jackal3

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For the love of pete!

I'm getting all hornswabbled about which atty to use for which voltage.

The LR atty is for 3.7 volts but not the 5 or 6 volt?

The HV atty is for which, then?

Can regular attys be used on 3.7, 5 and 6 volt?

Can regular cartomizers be used on 3.7, 5 and 6 volt?

Inquiring minds are, well, inquiring.
 

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For the love of pete!

I'm getting all hornswabbled about which atty to use for which voltage.

The LR atty is for 3.7 volts but not the 5 or 6 volt?

The HV atty is for which, then?

Can regular attys be used on 3.7, 5 and 6 volt?

Can regular cartomizers be used on 3.7, 5 and 6 volt?

Inquiring minds are, well, inquiring.

LR atties are meant for 3.7v, no higher. they are lowers ohms which simulates a regular atty at a higher voltage without it.

HV atties are for 5v or higher.

Regular atties can be used at any voltage, there just isn't a guarantee on how long they will last without "popping" at a higher voltage.

Cartomizers can also be used on any voltage but usually work/taste better at a lower voltage.
 

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Ahhh.. ok. I thinks I get it now. So cartomizers work, just no guarantee on voltage.

Getting my Omega this week, and I bought one LR atty and one HV. Now I'll know which to use when, even though I'll probably end up using my 808 cartomizers on it too.
In my experience I have had a few cartos that did not produce good vapor at 3.7v but once i hooked them up to my 5v mod they came alive.
 

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It all has to do with watts (i.e., the power or intensity of the vape) and Ohms Law, one of the formulas of which is:

Watts = Volts X Volts / Ohms (i.e., atomizer resistance)​

To hit the "sweet spot" (for many it is 6-8 watts, others a bit higher), you need to balance the battery voltage and atomizer resistance. So many of us like an LR (low-resistance) atty on a 3.7V (or less) battery; and we need an HV* atty on 6V+ so we don't burn out the atty.

* HV: literally "high-voltage" (meaning intended for HV batteries), but it really is HR (high-resistance).​

You can avoid the math by consulting this table:

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I am so sorry that I've forgotten who created this. Was it DC2?​

For example, notice how nice an LR 510 atty is on a 3.4V eGO and how bad a regular 510 is on a 6V mod.
 
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LR atties are meant for 3.7v, no higher. they are lowers ohms which simulates a regular atty at a higher voltage without it.

HV atties are for 5v or higher.

Regular atties can be used at any voltage, there just isn't a guarantee on how long they will last without "popping" at a higher voltage.

Cartomizers can also be used on any voltage but usually work/taste better at a lower voltage.

Yep, what bears said.
:pBut just to throw a monkey wrench into the equation, I've used a LR atty on a 5 volt - no difference noticed.


Used cartos on a 5 volt, some get dang hot, some don't.

Used regular 901/510 atty's on 5 volt- some last, some
don't.

Used a 901 with adaptor on a 510 5 volt and vice-versa. Sometimes it works out better than using a 510 atty with a 510 5 volt.

In other words, sometimes things don't go as planned. Don't be afraid to experiment. :2c:
 

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So according to this chart, I'd be better off with regular 510 attys and the 3.7v battery mod, producing 5.96 ohms (or even better to get a lower ohm rated, such as 1.7-2.2 ohm atty), whereas the LR 510 atty produces in the 9 ohm range, and is beyond the sweet spot (more heat)... hey... I get it.
 

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So my LR 510 atty in my Omega using 3.7v 18650 battery produces 9.13 Ohms/watts?

Sounds impressive.
Make sure to keep it constantly moist. Fully charged, that 3.7V battery is putting out 4.2V: 11.76 watts – Danger, Will Robinson! [Before your time, perhaps.]

BTW, you'll see that 4.2V is not shown on the table. However, I did not figure that in my head. Instead, I used this online calculator. Enter any two factors (e.g., volts and ohms) and it calculates the other two (e.g., watts and amps).

So according to this chart, I'd be better off with regular 510 attys and the 3.7v battery mod, producing 5.96 ohms (or even better to get a lower ohm rated, such as 1.7-2.2 ohm atty), whereas the LR 510 atty produces in the 9 ohm range, and is beyond the sweet spot (more heat)... hey... I get it.
By George, I think he's got it!

However, "sweet spot" is in the throat of the beholder. But, if you buy into that 6-8 watt range, then yes, you are correct. In fact, Ikenvape sells 2.0 ohm LR attys.

And I love my EastMall 801. It's not called "LR" but it is lower resistance than the standard penstyle atty: 2.5 ohms perhaps? It really is quite a wonderful vape, certainly if you are a penstyle atty aficionado as I am.
 
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I should note for any other noob just tuning in, that I was slightly incorrect in my comments: In that chart voltage is read down the side of that chart, and the ohm of the atomizer is across the top, and they produce watts of heat (the actual table)... I mistyped and said the two were creating ohms for the table.
 
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