Getting tempted to trade in my provari

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SPACKlick

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I was so excited when my Provari arrived. I had to buy new batteries for it but no biggie, New provari. I've had it a few weeks now and I'm just a little frustrated with it. Let me say before any of this, I have NO dispute with the build quality, it's a tank and the threads feel like they're made of silk soaked in butter with how smooth they are but...

I cannot get used to the menu. Sometimes the button double clicks, sometimes it doesn't register clicks but fine whatever that could be user error. However I use two different ohms of atomisers and quite often have it in "off" mode for pocket safety so here's the procedure for turning it on after i've switched to the lower ohms atty

1) 9 (+/-1) clicks to Pu. 2 seconds
2) Wait 2 seconds to switch to Of click to On. 2 seconds
3) Wait for On to disappear. 4 Seconds
4) 13(+/-2) clicks to Ao. 3 seconds
5) Wait for Ao to disappear. 4seconds
6) 7(+/-1) clicks to Pd. 1second
7) Wait for it to switch to volts. 2 seconds
8) click voltage down to desired and wait for voltage to disappear. 4seconds

Total time 22seconds and 30+ clicks before I start vaping. Ignoring the fact that if I miss an option I have to wait 4 seconds for the menu to disappear or scroll round again. Also at many points I have to give the provari my full attention because Po, Pd, Pu look similar at a glance and with the double/missed click issue I can't just 9clicks wait click without looking incase it missed one of my clicks or I double clicked one. Even without the changed atty it's 8 seconds and 10 clicks to start vaping. It makes me leave it off standby more than I'd care to because I don't like the faff.

For comparison on the VTR which is effectively 4 button the same procedure is
1) 3 clicks on [Lights flash red, yellow green to indicate success] <1s
2) Press top button to display ohms <1s
3) Wait 1s for volts to appear 1s
4) Scroll wheel to desired ohms <1s

4+ button presses in about 3s and I only had to pay attention to the readings because the indication of success was obvious in each case.

Does this get any easier? Will it become second nature? I'm just frustrated but I can't think what else out there will offer this level of build quality but I'm enjoying using the provari less than I did my VTR (when it worked, their threads and pins are made of soap wore mine down in 6 months).

Just needed to rant.
 

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1) 9 (+/-1) clicks to Pu. 2 seconds
2) Wait 2 seconds to switch to Of click to On. 2 seconds
3) Wait for On to disappear. 4 Seconds
4) 13(+/-2) clicks to Ao. 3 seconds
5) Wait for Ao to disappear. 4seconds
6) 7(+/-1) clicks to Pd. 1second
7) Wait for it to switch to volts. 2 seconds
8) click voltage down to desired and wait for voltage to disappear. 4seconds

Does this get any easier? Will it become second nature? I'm just frustrated but I can't think what else out there will offer this level of build quality but I'm enjoying using the provari less than I did my VTR (when it worked, their threads and pins are made of soap wore mine down in 6 months).

Just needed to rant.

My first recommendation would be to not turn the Provari off. I've had mine for 6 months and have never turned it off. The button takes a fair amount of pressure before firing. You shouldn't have to worry about firing it accidentally in your pocket unless you're wearing ultra skinny jeans.

My only other thought would be - buy 3-4 tanks / attys with identical ohm coils. I run 3 Nautilus Minis with 1.8 ohm BVC coils. That way I rarely have to adjust voltage.

Personally, I love the Provari's menu system. Felt pretty natural from day one.

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I went from an itaste to a ProVari, it took me a while to get used to the menu. In my mind, the menu goes with the territory with ProVari, it will become second nature after a while if you stick with it. I don't even look at the screen anymore when going for a setting, I just click off the number in a cadence: 12345...67...89...1011..1213, like that. then wait for the screen to tell me when it's ok to adjust. I really was put off by the menu when I saw my very first ProVari in person, my neighbor had one and let me check it out at a neighborhood party, I didn't get one till about six or so months later, now I have several :)
 

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My first recommendation would be to not turn the Provari off. I've had mine for 6 months and have never turned it off. The button takes a fair amount of pressure before firing. You shouldn't have to worry about firing it accidentally in your pocket unless you're wearing ultra skinny jeans.
I have fire it by mistake in jeans pockets, when resting it in the drinks holder of my car, never for long but I'm paranoid about safety.

My only other thought would be - buy 3-4 tanks / attys with identical ohm coils. I run 3 Nautilus Minis with 1.8 ohm BVC coils. That way I rarely have to adjust voltage.
I have to adjust the voltage across the day and over the life of the coil. I start my 1.8ohm coils at about 3.5, 3.6 with some juices, early evening I'm on 3.3 if the coil is old and beyond saving with cleaning I need to take it down to 3.0 of an evening to keep the nice flavour.
 

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I have to adjust the voltage across the day and over the life of the coil. I start my 1.8ohm coils at about 3.5, 3.6 with some juices, early evening I'm on 3.3 if the coil is old and beyond saving with cleaning I need to take it down to 3.0 of an evening to keep the nice flavor.

Hmm it's interesting that your coil is changing resistance so much over the course of a single day. Typically my 1.8 ohm coil's resistance will go up (1.9, 2.0, 2.1) over the course of a week or so and I have to increase the voltage to keep the vape quality going - not decrease it.

I'm not sure how to help you avoid accidental firing. I leave my Provari in my pocket / cup holder constantly and have never noticed it firing.
 

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Hmm it's interesting that your coil is changing resistance so much over the course of a single day. Typically my 1.8 ohm coil's resistance will go up (1.9, 2.0, 2.1) over the course of a week or so and I have to increase the voltage to keep the vape quality going - not decrease it..
Over the day, it's not the atomiser changing it's my mouth. In the morning around meals I need the voltage high to give my mouth a kick of flavour. Across an evening I have it lower because I'm looking for something milder. Towards the end of the coil, as the resistance climbs it also gets a burnt taste (iClear X.I running at 1.8 and 2.1, the 2.1 is so much better than the 1.8 and at the end of this coil I'm 2.1 exclusively) so I have to lower the volts to get unburnt vapor.
 

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Well, if it doesn't float your boat, it doesn't. No device is for everyone and it sounds like the two of you aren't bonding.

Personally, I don't use most of the menu options.

I check the battery level when I put in a fresh one and also when I leave the house to make sure it won't run out (but I take extras anyway, since I like the 18350 mode)
I check the ohms when I put on a new device (or use it to check the resistance of coils built for my mechanicals). I check it again after I rewick. I rarely ever check it otherwise.
I never turn it off. I guess I should, but I keep it in a Serenity Flex-sleeve which sticks out a tiny bit further than the button. It would be difficult for it to fire on it's own.
I don't use Lo.
Power up and Power down are what I use the most. My taste changes a bit through out the day and I adjust it accordingly. I've been using a ProVari for so long I don't notice the clicks - actually never did. I think in terms of beats, I like music; there is a rhythm to the menu.

Perhaps it's just not for you. Trying to make yourself like it doesn't sound fun. Sell it and get something else. :)
 

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It took me some time to get a good click rhythm going. I still use my Vamos alongside my Provari. I don't switch tanks out much and that saves me time and makes for less fiddling around IF my heads are acting right lol. The Vamo has three buttons that, to me, are easier when fiddling with things beyond PU and PD. You might be more of Vamorian than a Provarinati ;) and that's fine you know. Whatever keeps you from smoking again.


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I understand, and it is a lot of clicks and watching - I just don't fiddle as much as you so it doesnt' bother me - as much.
I'm more like Ocelot, and it DOES become somewhat second nature, in that I just know it's 1-2-3-4-5, then glance to be sure I got to PU, then up one. Or 1-2-3-4-5 then 1-2, 1-2, 1-2, until I see AO.

It certainly could be streamlined, but I wouldn't trade the reliability or compact design for streamlining the menu, changing the display or adding a button...
 

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Allow me to make a suggestion- from what you've described you're clicking, or trying to click thru the menu too fast- that often results in what you call the double click. Most people adjust to the menu by slowing down just a tad. Once you do that the menu will become 2nd nature.
When I first got my ProVari I did the same thing until I realized I'm causing my own frustrations.

Also, I would be a bit miffed if I had to enter the menu as often as you do. Sounds like you need a 2nd device for your other atty.
 

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I do feel your pain. It will get better but still can be a PITA.

I don't know if this will help, but it is the reason I have two Provari.

One is set up for my all-day vape with a tank and never changes. It is always ready to go with no setting changes.

The other is for all other vaping; dripping, Z-Atty, Russion, etc. Here I know there will be a setup required.

A setup like mine can be a budget buster, but it works for me very well. But I still screw up the menu navigation more than I would like.
 
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