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[K_Tech]

I am looking at an itaste mvp 2 or possibly something else like a Vamo. Just leary about dumping more money in.

If dumping more money in makes you leery, get an MVPII. $40 on line, and even though it's basically a disposable unit (once the batteries are dead, it's time for another one) but the 2 years or so that you'll get out of it will give you plenty of time to think about your next move.

IMO, the MVPII is the best of the bunch out of the lower-cost VV/VW devices out there.

 

[Jonathan Tittle]

I like the MVP, but I prefer the SVD personally, just because I can use an actual battery and don't have to worry about connecting it to a charger and not having another piece of hardware to vape on (in the event I actually empty the battery).

I have 4x 18650's in rotation with my SVD and they keep me going for 4-6 days at minimum, 6-8 at maximum. Couple that with a few of the Protank 2's and I'm good to go when on the move. The BCC's just tend to work better for me as I don't like spending my time priming cartos or carto tanks. I've done it, they do work and when they work, they work well, I just don't much care for them.

 

[unsure]

If you can get past having to own a tube shaped mod the try a bottom fed mod. No tank that might leak and a large juice bottle...and you don't have to spend the $$ for a REO because there are others less expensive to try.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I am looking at an itaste mvp 2 or possibly something else like a Vamo. Just leary about dumping more money in.

I own a Vamo V2 and V3. V2 using for 9 months- button a little wonky. Have had the V3 for 4 months and it's fine BUT Vamo quality is very hit and miss and I consider myself one of the lucky ones. Just received an MVP 2 and it's obvious the quality is far superior to the Vamo. Six- 12 months ago the Vamo was a great budget buy but since then other affordable higher quality Mods have been released IMO.

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

I have an AGR, but I've never taken it out of the box. Is the problem that it doesn't make a good seal, Bill? Almost every problem with leaking carto tanks that I've had is because of an air leak messing up the pressure inside the tank. Seems like if _any_ air gets in at all, you get a leak.

Well, if you look at the design, it doesn't really have a chance to seal. You're relying on the bottom piece to hold the base of the carto against the bottom of the base of the tank, and there's no o-ring there. With any kind of negative pressure, you're going to leak. On a normal carto tank, there's an o-ring between the tank and the carto. I've been using some tanks for a year, and never lost an o-ring yet, or ever had a leak through one. I was often very frustrated with the AGR, and I used to recommend them as a good starter tank, but probably haven't done that in six months or so. It's just a metal on metal thing, and you can't get the gap to zero out with metal on metal. YMMV.

 

[Spazmelda]

Well, if you look at the design, it doesn't really have a chance to seal. You're relying on the bottom piece to hold the base of the carto against the bottom of the base of the tank, and there's no o-ring there. With any kind of negative pressure, you're going to leak. On a normal carto tank, there's an o-ring between the tank and the carto. I've been using some tanks for a year, and never lost an o-ring yet, or ever had a leak through one. I was often very frustrated with the AGR, and I used to recommend them as a good starter tank, but probably haven't done that in six months or so. It's just a metal on metal thing, and you can't get the gap to zero out with metal on metal. YMMV.

Hmm, I guess I really should take it out of the box and look at it. I guess I just assumed there would be an o-ring or a gasket somewhere between the carto and the bottom of the tank. I've had it for months but its just sitting in my vapocalypse box. Lol. I used to use home made tanks, made out of 20 ml syringes, for the longest time, and that's really the only tanks I have experience with. Occasionally one of the plunger heads would get a little worn and not make a good seal, and that's when the gurgling and leaking would start. I have a box of 50 syringes in the garage, so whenever that happened I'd just go punch a hole in another and replace it.

I'm enjoying protanks now, but they have their quirks too. When they are totally full, they tend to give dry hits every now and then unless you give them a primer hit or unscrew the tank a little, and when they are almost empty, they will get some gurgle. I think you just kind of get used to dealing with all the little tweaks you have to do with whatever system you are using. Cartos are probably the most fiddle free delivery to use, but you have to constantly top them off. I never got the hang of bottom feeders, but many like them. Tanks all have the pressure issue. And everything, as far as I've heard, has issues with drastic temperature changes. C'est la vape.

 

[TheVapingJester]

I recently stepped up from a Vision Spinner to an MVP V2. It is awesome! The only other setup I am interested in having is a Mechanical mod with an RBA, but I am in no hurry because the MVP is a pretty impressive device and can do about anything you want except subohm. Your MVP should come with an iClear 30 like mine did, so I suggest you place your order and start learning about the setup so that you will be prepared to address any issues that you might encounter. Once I finally realized that ALL setups have pros and cons, I quit being frustrated and started learning how to fix or avoid the issues with the setups I have. I like tinkering with them, and you can actually improve on the original design in some cases just by reading posts here or watching youtube videos. If I were you I would sum up to yourself what you are wanting out of your device and find a setup that matches as closely as possible, then tweak it and learn it's nuances from there. I have heard the comment that the MVP is a throw away device, but don't let that fool you. once you have it in your hand you will see that there is nothing disposable about it. By the time the battery would be toast, you probably will have bought other setups and what is hot now will be a dinosaur then. Just look at cell phones! Man, I was so proud of my first flip phone! So one of 2 things will happen. Either you will kick the analog habit and quit vaping all together, or you will get into the hobby full force. If you do continue to Vape, you will want something different in a few months regardless of what you buy now. The MVP V2 is solid, and will probably be even more than you need for some time to come. That being said, I will still prolly buy the VAMO and/or an SVD at some point. Why? Heck if I know. BAHAHA

 

[OlDogNewTricks]

I had two agr+s and ended up throwing them out. One cracked (my fault, lemonade) and the other was replaced by Smoktech pyrex DCT tanks. Very nice, very inexpensive. Also have an IBtanked and it is great, but lacks a shield and is far more expensive. Boge XL LR cartos are my favorite, but Smoktech dual coil cartos work fine too. Never been able to hit Ikenvape to try them out. Almost harder to get than Ahlusion juice.

I do own a Protank 2 and like it, but the heads really stink and my fingers are waaaaayyyyy too big to rebuild them.

I got an iClear30 with my MVP and will be picking up a couple more and some dual coil heads. Shockingly good vape. Nice for my dark juices, never had any luck with cartos and dark juices. With all your atomizers, don't overtighten them. Good luck and have fun!

 

[nobreak1970]

I gave up on carto tanks and got an EVOD BCC and am hooked on it. It's hassle free.
Whatever you choose make sure it's 100% right for you and you alone.
Don't get a rig because it seems popular because everyone is different.
Good luck.

 

[Godsmulligan]

The BCC's just tend to work better for me as I don't like spending my time priming cartos or carto tanks. I've done it, they do work and when they work, they work well, I just don't much care for them.

But isn't rebuilding a BCC a bigger pain in the .... then priming a carto?

Question goes to you too, nobreak.

I would love something hassle free, but I also like a good vape.

 

[Katya]

But isn't rebuilding a BCC a bigger pain in the .... then priming a carto?

Yes it is. I can fill a cartomizer in my sleep in 10 seconds flat.

Installing a fresh coil in a Kanger BCC takes 3 seconds.

Throwing a dirty coil in some PGA to clean--2.5 seconds.

 

[Godsmulligan]

That's not near as bad, as I thought.

 

[madqatter]

Installing a fresh coil in a Kanger BCC takes 3 seconds.

Throwing a dirty coil in some PGA to clean--2.5 seconds.

Filling an Evod & changing the coil head, demonstrated veeeery slowly:


That's an Evod, but other Kanger BCCs work pretty much the same way. They only take more time if you need to make minor adjustments.


Obviously, IRL it's not that slow. More like the amount of time Katya's talking.

 

[nobreak1970]

Well they answered as well as I could have.

 

[Godsmulligan]

Itaste MVP 2 on its way...

each dot = a Dun

Kanger to come

 

[Godsmulligan]

Well, the vendor did offer me a replacement, while I was there a picked up a mini protank clone. OMfingG, this thing is amazing, no gurgaling, leaking or messy priming. Is this thing just as good as the original, besides it having a plastic tank, cause I'm in love.