Hello GG family I have been using a GG for about 10 days now so I think that makes a new member of the awesome GG club! I decided to take some time with my new device (and obsession) before I came in here and posted my opinions. I am pretty new to the ecig world, its just been over a month and a half of quitting smoking, though have spend most of that time researching devices, mods and have purchased more stuff than what I could actually use and consume in a couple of years. After the usual tryst with cigarette style ecigs, then egoTs, a dozen types of cartos, I finally gave up on the retail market ecigs and decided to look at mods. The most prominent reason being, I just couldn't get my self to like cartos. The most recommended cartos still gave me the filler taste. And I just couldn't accept the idea of dripping as the every day way of vaping. The Reo Grand quickly became the the vape that solved most of my problems.
However, Imeo's design and engineering kept me intrigued and the UFS and Odysseus seemed to be the ultimate solutions to all my needs! After initially being intimidated by the lack of availability of anything GG, I read up enough to understand why they are so much in demand. Extreme engineering and the quest for perfection is what really attracted me to the GG world. I pounced on a GG stealth (#1584) that was available at COV after Bruce told me that he isn't expecting any GGTSs until march at least. I received the stealth, bought a set of AW 18350 IMRs and a Pila charger, but never really used the GG at all. I didn't see the point in using it with cartos. I needed an UFS / Oddy! I realized how cool and unavailable the oddy is but I just couldn't get over how cool the UFS looks . Then after days of stalking the classifieds, and loosing out on a few deals, I got lucky with VPDownunder's UFS v1. Awesome guy great deal, he even gave me an extra plastic window for it. I also got an assortment of attys from avidvaper for both the UFS and the Reo. The shipping of the UFS from Australia to India took longer than I expected even after picking the most expensive shipping option and the customs ripped me, but at the end of it all, I finally had my GG setup complete! I had already seen (twice) every UFS video by then, so I followed all of the vaseline filled instructions , filled up the UFS with my favorite RY4 and the Cisco 1.8ohm 510 atty and fired up. In my first 3 hits I completely realized why all you guys are so crazy about GGs. It truly tasted like the vapor of the gods! I never new how good my juice tasted until I tried it in the UFS! Though my Reo with a Cisco 306 produced much more quantity of vapor, the vapor from the UFS was smooth, fluffy and felt like I am biting into tasty clouds The key difference between my Reo and GG experience is the consistency of vapor from the UFS. The uninterrupted flow of eliquid of the UFS provides a consistency of vapor that I don't think a manual bottom feeder can provide, self feeding or not. Impressed by it, I decided to get another UFS, and this time I landed up buying Chinner's UFS V2. A totally awesome dude to deal with, he too gave me some added goodies with the deal, orings and the steel window. So I now have 2 UFSs and only one GG!?! Have been looking for a GGTS-SS to come up in the classifieds but haven't found one yet. I have already put up a WTB for the steel mouthpieces (that for some weird reason I MUST HAVE!!!!)
I still am using the UFSv1 and the v2 is waiting for its better half to arrive . Also, I don't have the atty extender or any long barrel attys ATM. Now using it with a Cisco 1.5ohm 510 atty that brings up the vapor production to comparable levels of the Reo Grand, but drops the flavor a bit. I think i will be sticking to buying 1.8ohm attys for this baby. The taste is just awesome! The main problem I am currently facing with the GG is that it is leaking when carrying around. I lock out both the juice and air flow quite securely. I use a very well padded case with a my GG's shape cut out on the sponge padding, so its really well secure. However often when I get the GG out of the case, I see quite a few drops of liquid that seems to me has leaked out from the bottom of the top cap threading. I have disassembled and reassembled the UFS, but it still happens. I am not sure if the top cap is supposed to have an oring for its larger side, mine doesn't. I'd really appreciate some help on this issue. The leaking problem is the only thing thats making my GG my desk vape and am using the Reo Grand when out and about. Another minor problem is that over the short span of time that I am using the GG, I find the liquid control ring is getting stiffer to twist and is kinda squeaking when I turn it. Not a problem, just feels uncomfortable.
So finally to summarize my opinion of the GGS+UFS setup, here is what I really like:
1. Integrated device. Once you can find all the parts of course. I just don't dig mods that are just battery mods to be used with plain cartomizers. I think just battery mods are over rated. Storing and handling juice and flowing it to the atty while being a tight unified system is where the magic is at for me. Thats what I like most about my UFS setup.
2. Looks totally awesome!! The all steel device looks like something from a science fiction movie. A cross between a light saber and a sonic screwdriver. I would have gotten this thing for how cool it looks, even if I was not using ecigs
3. Really uninterrupted juice flow. The UFS does exactly what it promises. And IMO does it better than anything else. (Yes I know a lot of people are going to come up to me to say "wait till you try the oddy!" and yes I am doing exactly that! waiting!)
4. Awesome engineering and design. Every component in the device, barring none looks like deep thought has been put into each and every one of them. Some might call it over engineered, but I don't subscribe to such a notion, at least not in the negative sense of the phrase.
5. Awesome vapor. As i mentioned earlier, the vapor quality and taste from this device surpasses everything I have tried, even using the same atty on my other mod does not come close to the UFS in terms of flavor
6. Silent operation. Most atties / cartos have been noisy in terms of gurgling, crackling etc. The design of the UFS puts the atty inside the juice container and seals it from all around. Some people around me hate the sounds that I make with my Reo and 306s
Even great devices like the GG UFS leave me asking for more, so here is what I don't like or would like improved:
1. I would like to see an easier, more tactile button lockout system, I don't quite like the one on the GG. Its not really an On /Off boolean. There is good chance of the nut being somewhere halfway. I'd like to see some kind of locking like say in the Precise+ where you are sure of the on/off state of the device just by touching / feeling the lock / button. I did see a video somewhere of Imeo experimenting with a new kind of lockout that consisted of turning the entire base. Maybe that would be better, but still will not have an absolute On/Off state.
2. While I love the button position of the GG, I don't like the hexagonal button. I think there is a round button in some models, maybe that would be cooler. IMHO the button on the GG makes it feel a little crude / homemade when compared to the rest of the device. Heres to hoping that Imeo invents something cooler in the button department.
3. The UFS needs some kind of gradations / numbering / markings for at least the juice flow control if not both the flow controls. I should be able to visually set the device to my favorite settings without the guesswork or practice. I am sure over time experience and habit will make it easier to tune up to the desired settings, but a perfect device should tell the user of its state.
4. Don't really like the 18350 battery and need to move up to 18650.
5. This is my biggest gripe and most important feature request: Imeo needs to clone himself and just make more of these!!!! Come on!! can't you see the demand??
So there it is. My initial review of my first GG setup, and surely not my last. Will post some pics soon, though my device won't stand a chance when compared to some of your collections, its still damn pretty! I'd appreciate it if the pros here could provide some advice for my leaking issue or any tips that I can use. Lastly, thanks Imeo for creating such an awesome device. You have a fan in me who is going to be waiting for more of your genius creations
However, Imeo's design and engineering kept me intrigued and the UFS and Odysseus seemed to be the ultimate solutions to all my needs! After initially being intimidated by the lack of availability of anything GG, I read up enough to understand why they are so much in demand. Extreme engineering and the quest for perfection is what really attracted me to the GG world. I pounced on a GG stealth (#1584) that was available at COV after Bruce told me that he isn't expecting any GGTSs until march at least. I received the stealth, bought a set of AW 18350 IMRs and a Pila charger, but never really used the GG at all. I didn't see the point in using it with cartos. I needed an UFS / Oddy! I realized how cool and unavailable the oddy is but I just couldn't get over how cool the UFS looks . Then after days of stalking the classifieds, and loosing out on a few deals, I got lucky with VPDownunder's UFS v1. Awesome guy great deal, he even gave me an extra plastic window for it. I also got an assortment of attys from avidvaper for both the UFS and the Reo. The shipping of the UFS from Australia to India took longer than I expected even after picking the most expensive shipping option and the customs ripped me, but at the end of it all, I finally had my GG setup complete! I had already seen (twice) every UFS video by then, so I followed all of the vaseline filled instructions , filled up the UFS with my favorite RY4 and the Cisco 1.8ohm 510 atty and fired up. In my first 3 hits I completely realized why all you guys are so crazy about GGs. It truly tasted like the vapor of the gods! I never new how good my juice tasted until I tried it in the UFS! Though my Reo with a Cisco 306 produced much more quantity of vapor, the vapor from the UFS was smooth, fluffy and felt like I am biting into tasty clouds The key difference between my Reo and GG experience is the consistency of vapor from the UFS. The uninterrupted flow of eliquid of the UFS provides a consistency of vapor that I don't think a manual bottom feeder can provide, self feeding or not. Impressed by it, I decided to get another UFS, and this time I landed up buying Chinner's UFS V2. A totally awesome dude to deal with, he too gave me some added goodies with the deal, orings and the steel window. So I now have 2 UFSs and only one GG!?! Have been looking for a GGTS-SS to come up in the classifieds but haven't found one yet. I have already put up a WTB for the steel mouthpieces (that for some weird reason I MUST HAVE!!!!)
I still am using the UFSv1 and the v2 is waiting for its better half to arrive . Also, I don't have the atty extender or any long barrel attys ATM. Now using it with a Cisco 1.5ohm 510 atty that brings up the vapor production to comparable levels of the Reo Grand, but drops the flavor a bit. I think i will be sticking to buying 1.8ohm attys for this baby. The taste is just awesome! The main problem I am currently facing with the GG is that it is leaking when carrying around. I lock out both the juice and air flow quite securely. I use a very well padded case with a my GG's shape cut out on the sponge padding, so its really well secure. However often when I get the GG out of the case, I see quite a few drops of liquid that seems to me has leaked out from the bottom of the top cap threading. I have disassembled and reassembled the UFS, but it still happens. I am not sure if the top cap is supposed to have an oring for its larger side, mine doesn't. I'd really appreciate some help on this issue. The leaking problem is the only thing thats making my GG my desk vape and am using the Reo Grand when out and about. Another minor problem is that over the short span of time that I am using the GG, I find the liquid control ring is getting stiffer to twist and is kinda squeaking when I turn it. Not a problem, just feels uncomfortable.
So finally to summarize my opinion of the GGS+UFS setup, here is what I really like:
1. Integrated device. Once you can find all the parts of course. I just don't dig mods that are just battery mods to be used with plain cartomizers. I think just battery mods are over rated. Storing and handling juice and flowing it to the atty while being a tight unified system is where the magic is at for me. Thats what I like most about my UFS setup.
2. Looks totally awesome!! The all steel device looks like something from a science fiction movie. A cross between a light saber and a sonic screwdriver. I would have gotten this thing for how cool it looks, even if I was not using ecigs
3. Really uninterrupted juice flow. The UFS does exactly what it promises. And IMO does it better than anything else. (Yes I know a lot of people are going to come up to me to say "wait till you try the oddy!" and yes I am doing exactly that! waiting!)
4. Awesome engineering and design. Every component in the device, barring none looks like deep thought has been put into each and every one of them. Some might call it over engineered, but I don't subscribe to such a notion, at least not in the negative sense of the phrase.
5. Awesome vapor. As i mentioned earlier, the vapor quality and taste from this device surpasses everything I have tried, even using the same atty on my other mod does not come close to the UFS in terms of flavor
6. Silent operation. Most atties / cartos have been noisy in terms of gurgling, crackling etc. The design of the UFS puts the atty inside the juice container and seals it from all around. Some people around me hate the sounds that I make with my Reo and 306s
Even great devices like the GG UFS leave me asking for more, so here is what I don't like or would like improved:
1. I would like to see an easier, more tactile button lockout system, I don't quite like the one on the GG. Its not really an On /Off boolean. There is good chance of the nut being somewhere halfway. I'd like to see some kind of locking like say in the Precise+ where you are sure of the on/off state of the device just by touching / feeling the lock / button. I did see a video somewhere of Imeo experimenting with a new kind of lockout that consisted of turning the entire base. Maybe that would be better, but still will not have an absolute On/Off state.
2. While I love the button position of the GG, I don't like the hexagonal button. I think there is a round button in some models, maybe that would be cooler. IMHO the button on the GG makes it feel a little crude / homemade when compared to the rest of the device. Heres to hoping that Imeo invents something cooler in the button department.
3. The UFS needs some kind of gradations / numbering / markings for at least the juice flow control if not both the flow controls. I should be able to visually set the device to my favorite settings without the guesswork or practice. I am sure over time experience and habit will make it easier to tune up to the desired settings, but a perfect device should tell the user of its state.
4. Don't really like the 18350 battery and need to move up to 18650.
5. This is my biggest gripe and most important feature request: Imeo needs to clone himself and just make more of these!!!! Come on!! can't you see the demand??
So there it is. My initial review of my first GG setup, and surely not my last. Will post some pics soon, though my device won't stand a chance when compared to some of your collections, its still damn pretty! I'd appreciate it if the pros here could provide some advice for my leaking issue or any tips that I can use. Lastly, thanks Imeo for creating such an awesome device. You have a fan in me who is going to be waiting for more of your genius creations