Glycerol is VG??

[iraqui]

All i could find here in egypt is purified glycerol, is it the sane as VG

And if so, what about purity??
Coz its written on on it "for lab use only"





Thanks in advance

 

[Kurt]

It is glycerine, but it might not be sourced from vegetable oil, so G definitely, but maybe not VG. Probably VG, but unless it says, it could be from animal fat. And if it does not say USP, then it is not advisable to vape.

 

[echofinder]

Glycerol & glycerin are the same compound, but it can be made or retrieved from a variety of sources. No idea where this one came from, but the "No GHS" label leads me to believe it is not harmful or toxic. GHS Info. I'm not going to tell you to use it, but I also wouldn't stop you from trying it.

 

[FinallyQuit]

GLYCEROL

(This link is to the maker's page for the product you pictured above)

The MSDS on the page is scary!!

The following is from Wikipedia:

Glycerol from triglycerides is produced on a large scale, but the crude product is of variable quality, with a low selling price of as low as 1–8 U.S. cents per pound in 2011. It can be purified, but the process is expensive. As a result, a good fraction of crude glycerol is disposed of as waste. Some glycerol is burned for energy, but the heat value is low.[5]

Crude glycerol from the hydrolysis of triglycerides can be purified by treatment with activated carbon to remove organic impurities, alkali to remove unreacted glycerol esters, and ion exchange to remove salts. High purity glycerol (> 99.5%) is obtained by multi-step distillation; vacuum is helpful due to the high boiling point of glycerol (290 °C).[4]

I don't know if I'd inhale that. . .sorry.

 

[JD4x4]

The CAS number on your bottle says it is indeed glycerin, but as was pointed out that doesn't mean that it's vegetable-derived glycerin, and further: You might find this link and this link helpful.

The first is from a sticky in this forum about purity in general, and the second is to a USP web post about the USP Glycerin purity standards being tightened at FDA request. On the USP page there is also a link to the revisions that were made to the monograph (the 'recipe' standard, if you will) "to prevent future diethylene glycol (DEG) and ethylene glycol (EG) adulteration". I noticed that your bottle label appears to say "Assay on anhydrous basis 98.0 - 101%". I'm not a chemist or any sort of expert, but one of the USP revisions was to make the anhydrous content standard "99.0 to 101%". To me (I could be wrong) that says your stuff could have an extra 1% of impurities.

But- I'm not an expert. I just do different web searches!
Regardless, there are the links.. your choices.

 

[BlueMoods]

I wouldn't vape it based on the MSDS - Harzardous fumes - not good.

It also says to wash hands before eating, drinking or smoking after working with the stuff.

Nope, not a good idea in my opinion.

 

[gtbb]

Not a good idea imho! Keep looking for something your sure of. Good luck.

 

[JD4x4]

fwiw, the only thing I found worrisome in the MSDS was it's "Use: Industrial" and the first link I posted addressed the cautions in that regard.
An MSDS is intended to be all encompassing & worse case scenario cautions. I found the same scary verbage in an MSDS for food grade vegetable glycerin. Just my uneducated opinion.

 

[iraqui]

Thank you all guys for this effort
I'm really dissapointed because this is the only GLycerine that I could find here

May be I'll start searching allover again
This liquid seems to contain some serious stuff in it.

I've been diggin the hell out of cairo to find USP grade VG and PG

Although the guy in the chemical stote told me that this VG is for lab use which he claims to be more pure than the food grade

Howeve, from what u guys said,
I'll not risk vaping this.

Thank you all

 

[gimmieshelter31]

Doesn't matter if glycerine is derived from animal fat or veggies unless you are a vegan. Chemically they are the same.

You are liable to have a very tough time finding USP grade glycerin/glycerine/glycerol in Egypt as USP stands for United States Pharmacopeia. USP is, per Google, a nongovernmental, scientific body responsible for setting standards for drug quality and related practices.
You would be best served searching for glycerine that is endorsed by whatever Pharmacopeia handles standards for your own or a neighboring country. Pharmaceutical grade glycerine is what you want to vape.

 

[iraqui]

I found this on there websie

http://www.lobachemie.com/lab-chemical-msds/MSDS-GLYCEROL-CASNO-56-81-00155-EN.aspx

Didnt understand anything but i think its not pharmaceutical grade

 

[FinallyQuit]

The only difference in the purity between what you found and what is listed as USP is like 1-1.5%. This one is listed as 98% pure, and USP is 99.5-99.7% pure.

Not sure why it's scary to me, before we had this conversation I never knew what the purity of vg was. . .

 

[gtbb]

I'm still concerned about the 1-1.5%. Call me chicken but I'm a live chicken.

 

[FinallyQuit]

I'm still concerned about the 1-1.5%. Call me chicken but I'm a live chicken.

Yeah that!!

 

[iraqui]

But would it be more dangerous yhan returning to analogs??

I got the last 10ml of vg that i bought from the uk 6 months ago in my hand now, they wont last 2 days,

 

[FinallyQuit]

I think if you monitor it very carefully it will probably be fine. If you notice weird things happening, odors or flavors you never had before, or anything off about it, discontinue use.

I don't keep my vg or pg in the freezer, it's in it's original plastic containers, has been opened countless times and exposed to light/heat/air. Never crossed my mind to worry that it might now be contaminated.