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Not quite time to celebrate. They are delaying not revoking. They are trying to wrap {other stuff} into the ban.
There is still a fight....
There is still a fight....
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Thank you for Posting that Robino1. There is still a Fight to be Fought.
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Good picture. It's not smoke. Health before hype. Vaping is not smoking.Thank you for Posting that Robino1. There is still a Fight to be Fought.
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Good words to live by and remember before before going off on a tangent
about some mythical cloud bro ambushing grandma and the babies in
the cereal aisle or bashing vendors about your minor concerns of things
in the juice or hardware you think might harm you without any proof.
Its time we start concentrating on the good scientifically proven things
about vaping instead of wrestling in the mud about so far unfounded concerns
about what as of yet haven't happened nor are unlikely to happen even 20
years into the future.
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Mike
Not sure how things Work in Canada? But here in the USA, Blowing Clouds in the Cereal Aisle is just begging Policy Makers to Enact Bans.
And Unfortunately, what is enacted Almost Always goes way beyond the Cereal Aisle. And tends to Overreach into things like Vaping inside a Vape Shops.
You might consider Diketones in e-Liquids to be a Non-Issue. And feel that it is OK for Retailers to Lie about the Levels that are Present. But once again, I’m just not sure why this would Not Be Seen as a Reason for More Regulations? Verses Less Regulations.
And Unfortunately, what is enacted Almost Always goes way beyond the Cereal Aisle. And tends to Overreach into things like Vaping inside a Vape Shops.
You might consider Diketones in e-Liquids to be a Non-Issue. And feel that it is OK for Retailers to Lie about the Levels that are Present. But once again, I’m just not sure why this would Not Be Seen as a Reason for More Regulations? Verses Less Regulations.
Blowing clouds in the cereal isle is a privilege not a right!
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Policy makers enact bans because the vaping community falls for it. Second hand vaper is harmless.
We should start acting like it is. Vape everywhere and often.
I would feel more than privileged to exercise my rights to vape anywhere.
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Mike
The voting public will never know the truth unless we go out and show them.What a Great Way to win over the Hearts and Minds of the Mis-Informed Voting Public.
Most of them haven't even seen a vaper let alone understand what it is about.
All this skulking around hasn't gotten us anything. It's time to become proactive.
It's to bring vaping to the masses and let the masses decide.
Vape everywhere and vape often. Show the masses there's nothing to fear.
Be bold.
Regards
Mike
You bring that "Vape Everywhere and Often" attitude down on the Masses and they will Decide Alright.
I think they would be quite tolerant once they realized they were being lied to.
A hands on approach is what we need. Like those other folk who need their medicine.
Their getting what they wan't because they demand it.
Regards
Mike
But here is the BIG Flaw in your logic. Implementing a "Vape Everywhere" doesn't expose any Lies. It just plays into the Fears of an Uninformed Public.
You mentioned Science earlier. Where is the Science in just Blowing Vape wherever you feel like it?
Your Initial Goal was Good. Get more people Informed about the Positive Aspect of e-Cigarettes. But your Methodology to achieve this Goal is Counterproductive. Extremely Counterproductive.
You never know until you try it.
You read the same studies I do. Where's the study that says it isn't?
REGARDS
Mike
Of course I do. As do the Policy Makers who dream up these Bans.
But the Vast Majority of the Voting Population Doesn't. And somebody Blowing Vape in an Enclosed Public Space isn't going to get them to Read any Pro Vaping Studies. They just go on Believing what the Media Tells them.
And the Media is Full of Negative "Studies". And in some cases, Outright lies.
Of course they will. They haven't had the chance to experience otherwise. If we do not expose them to it
no one else will.
Regards
Mike
I just Don't think you have Considered things thoroughly.
You go out and Blow Vape in Public Enclosed Space and Yes, you will "Expose" people to e-Cigarettes. And what will this accomplish?
If they harbor Anti-Vaping views, Nothing. You just Reinforced their Dis-like and Fears about e-Cigarettes. If anything, you just Made it Worse.
But for that Small Percentage of people decide to do some Research they will go to Google and do some searching.
"Hmmmm? There is a Study that was recently done at Harvard. Harvard is a Very Reputable University. What do they have to say about e-Cigarettes?"
And here is the Real Rub. 95%+ of those who will do some research Aren't going to read the Actual Harvard Study (or any other study). They are just going to Read the Spin that a Media puts on the Study. And how Objective has the Media been about e-Cigarette Studies in the last 3 Years?
I know you want to do what You Think is going to Help. But Blowing Vape in Enclosed Public spaces Isn't the Answer. It's just going to Piss Off a lot of people.
Evidently what you propose is working beautifully. See how the public is greeting us with open arms?
Surely when the deeming reg.'s are passed it will be all good. The public will be helpful and understanding.
We will be happy because regulations will give us the validation we need. We can say,"Look public the
FDA has regulating vaping. Your safe. Can we vape by you now?"
There is no reinforcing dis-likes or fears by vaping in public places if no one is doing it. There still are
states where one can smoke indoors at public places. Theres many places vaping is still allowed. Where
is the overwhelming hew and cry from the public complaining?
The only thing creating fear and dislike is vapers skulking around like we are doing something bad.
There is nothing wrong with vaping in public. We should start acting like there is nothing wrong.
Nothing else is working. I say its time to be proactive. If we do not show them. No one will and,
we will forever be those people huddled together by the curb.
Regards
Mike
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