Good Supplier Dietsmokes.com

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SmaBob

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I would recommend dietsmokes.com to anyone out there. Parked has responded to all my questions and ships promptly. I had a mix up on my order (ordered 2 starter kits and only got 1) In a matter of 2 hours he responded to my email and is shipping the second today. Great customer service!!!!!!:)
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Kendra

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Glad you have some perspective on simple, human shipping mishaps.

Other new members would've been crying foul play and calling him names at this point. lol

Parked is doing a great job, and it's nice to know other people feel the same way.
To be fair, you are wrong about "other members calling him names". I know which guy you are referring to and which thread he started. Although that guy was admittedly a little high strung, he was absolutely correct and hadn't gotten any responses after trying to several times before posting publicly.

And, of course, Parked's smarmy responses to him were completely inappropriate, too.

Just my $.02 of course. But, I don't think Parked handled that well at all. Had he handled it well, there would have been no thread to even talk about. And, that wasn't the first time-- there were other questions about his lack of full-disclosure and integrity regarding the video reviews he posted. You know what? A similar issue would be having possible shills come on here and post rave seller reviews the day after joining the forum. . . I'm not sure I'd trust those, either.

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To be fair, you are wrong about "other members calling him names". I know which guy you are referring to and which thread he started. Although that guy was admittedly a little high strung, he was absolutely correct and hadn't gotten any responses after trying to several times before posting publicly.

And, of course, Parked's smarmy responses to him were completely inappropriate, too.

Just my $.02 of course. But, I don't think Parked handled that well at all. Had he handled it well, there would have been no thread to even talk about. And, that wasn't the first time-- there were other questions about his lack of full-disclosure and integrity regarding the video reviews he posted. You know what? A similar issue would be having possible shills come on here and post rave seller reviews the day after joining the forum. . . I'm not sure I'd trust those, either.

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This isn't just about Parked and the problems with that customer, which have been resolved. This isn't a hate on Parked thread. I don't think he did his best with dealing with that particular issue, but, for every irate thread with people screaming from the rooftops about how wronged they were, there are a hundred silent and happy customers that received exactly what they want out of the transaction.

There's a new mentality taking over with many of the new adopters to the boards, and it's really taking a bite out of every supplier working their tails off to make everyone happy, not just Dietsmokes. People want their product yesterday. They want freebies. They want someone to hold their hand. They want to make friends with the owners. They want someone to correct mistakes that were made on the buyer's end on Paypal.

People don't understand that these suppliers are damned either way. They either hang out on this board and mind their emails 24/7 and answer everyone's questions, regardless of their importance, OR they stay busy packing orders. They can't do both.

You can't have it both ways, and people need to take a step back, take a deep breath, and be patient.
 
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SmaBob

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To be fair, you are wrong about "other members calling him names". I know which guy you are referring to and which thread he started. Although that guy was admittedly a little high strung, he was absolutely correct and hadn't gotten any responses after trying to several times before posting publicly.

And, of course, Parked's smarmy responses to him were completely inappropriate, too.

Just my $.02 of course. But, I don't think Parked handled that well at all. Had he handled it well, there would have been no thread to even talk about. And, that wasn't the first time-- there were other questions about his lack of full-disclosure and integrity regarding the video reviews he posted. You know what? A similar issue would be having possible shills come on here and post rave seller reviews the day after joining the forum. . . I'm not sure I'd trust those, either.

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I don't want you to think that I'm a shill (plant) I will gladly post my order... Payment by paypal and the emails. I live in Central Mexico and it would be most unlikely that I ever even met Parked. To check that you can check the ip address in the header of the email. Let me know if you want this information
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This isn't just about Parked and the problems with that customer, which have been resolved. This isn't a hate on Parked thread. I don't think he did his best with dealing with that particular issue, but, for every irate thread with people screaming from the rooftops about how wronged they were, there are a hundred silent and happy customers that received exactly what they want out of the transaction.

There's a new mentality taking over with many of the new adopters to the boards, and it's really taking a bite out of every supplier working their tails off to make everyone happy, not just Dietsmokes. People want their product yesterday. They want freebies. They want someone to hold their hand. They want to make friends with the owners. They want someone to correct mistakes that were made on the buyer's end on Paypal.

People don't understand that these suppliers are damned either way. They either hang out on this board or mind their emails and answer everyone's questions, regardless of their importance, OR they stay busy packing orders. They can't do both.

You can't have it both ways, and people need to take a step back, take a deep breath, and be patient.

Well, I disagree with most of your post. Although my first job isn't selling, I also DO sell on Amazon and sell.com. And, with my real job getting busy, I hve less time to fill all my amazon and sell.com orders. (Also, dammit-- my new e-cig research and reading takes a big chuck o' time, too!).

But, still one either has to stop selling or find the time to contact customers when they write or have an issue. The sale doesn't end when the seller sends out the merchandise-- it ends when the buyer receives it and is satisfied. IMHO, if the seller doesn't have this attitude, he or she ought to be doing something else.

When I sell things, it's inevitable that about 3-5% are dissatisfied for whatever reason. Maybe the item arrived damaged. When I ship overseas, tracking isn't so good and if the item is stuck in customs, I have to "hold their hand and make friends with the customer!" If, I made a mistake on an order, I need to take care of it correctly. And, if I promised I'd send them something extra because we developed some kind of good rapport before he or she made the transaction, that "something extra" is no longer a "freebie"-- it's part of our agreed-upon deal. Sometimes, caught up in a warm fuzzy moment, the seller will say, "Oh, I'll send you this, too-- on me. .. you'll like it!" yet forgets to put it in. No matter it's a "freebee and it wasn't in the customer's shopping cart prior to paying. That was an oral contract and should be honored!

Well, again, that's just my opinion, obviously. I don't think people want their items "yesterday". What they want is a conscientious seller and shipping confirmation with a delivery confirmation number when possible-- especially when we're buying items that aren't readily available in more well-known larger stores. If they ordered expedited shipping, they might want to be assured that it was sent out and will be delivered when it's supposed to be delivered. It's all hit or miss when you don't know the seller and there isn't a rating system in place as there is on Amazon, eBay or sell.com, etc. , so we come on here to find out what we can and hopefully see the truth. If we see sarcasm from the seller, I can tell you that looks horrible. Did you ever see comments from sellers in response to poor feedback where the seller finds every possible reason to absolve themselves of any responsibility on eBay or other sites? I have, and it looks bad. I would much rather see, "Oh, I'm so sorry. It won't happen again."

(I used to very very occasionally get bad feedback saying my items smelled like smoke! Can you imagine that? LOL)

My point is that, yes, times have changed, but people still want and deserve good customer service. Especially in a poor economy. And, even with big demand and low supply. Sure, if dietsmokes was the ONLY place available I could gt what I wanted, I may still order from him, but I would order from somewhere else first if I had any choice at all. I'd even pay a little more if the customer service was better. That's how you retain customers or get repeat customers or get new and word-of-mouth customers.
 

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And that's your decision to go wherever you want, but to crusade on behalf of many of the recent complainers to every supplier, not just Dietsmokes, is just negligent, as is accusing someone of being a shill just because they posted something positive.

I respect that you've had a business, and I can tell you definitely know a thing or two about customer service. That's not all of the problem, of late. Yes, customer service isn't always what it should be. Yes, some customers need to be handled with kid gloves. But when you try and compare customer service and e-cig commerce with just about any other industry, your analogy falls well short of being accurate.
 

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My order from them went great-great email notifications of shipping.

I am impressed that they carry several brands/types of ecig products.


I hope they can continue in business and increase their ability to maintain stock.

This hit and miss stock opportunity with USA suppliers is a bit tiresome.

Dietsmokes will get my future business, if I happen to visit their site at the right moment of stock update.
 

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Kendra and D_Struct are both correct in their opinions. Kendra has the right attitude toward customer service; one that, I am sure, we all like to experience. D_Struct implies that patience is needed by customers since we are all involved in a niche industry plagued with many problems - shortages, governmental scrutiny and general equipment unreliability.

Since finding parts and accessories is difficult, much of the time, we all do have to have patience with our suppliers. There is little else we can do. If you are impatient, then you will seek out different vendors to deal with. Where Kendra's point really hits home is the inconsistant communications we receive from some suppliers. Keeping customers informed should be paramount to any business regardless to size and sales volume. If you have a message; respond to it.
 

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And that's your decision to go wherever you want, but to crusade on behalf of many of the recent complainers to every supplier, not just Dietsmokes, is just negligent, as is accusing someone of being a shill just because they posted something positive.

I respect that you've had a business, and I can tell you definitely know a thing or two about customer service. That's not all of the problem, of late. Yes, customer service isn't always what it should be. Yes, some customers need to be handled with kid gloves. But when you try and compare customer service and e-cig commerce with just about any other industry, your analogy falls well short of being accurate.

Okay. I understand your point. I shouldn't have implied that the new poster might not be being completely honest. That was wrong of me. Sorry! But, it really looked completely suspicious to me. Still, I shouldn't have said anything at all.
 

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When it comes to communication, and staying up to date with existing tickets, I would like to post a quote from Mrs. Cash yesterday regarding their day-to-day operation. It gives a little perspective on what it takes to "do it all".

I'm not posting this to bring PS into the discussion or anything, but I think it's a fairly accurate account of what many of the larger-scale suppliers are currently dealing with at the moment, and should be digested by everyone trying to order from popular sites.

Originally Posted by Mrs. CaSH
Hey Everyone. I just read this thread for the first time, and I just want to tell everyone that we had received a HUGE amount of orders in the first couple days since the relaunch and we're finally almost caught up. In addition to the orders, we receive at least 400 emails a day. We try to answer every email, but only having 2 people answering emails....you can see how some may not get answered right away or at all. Our day is like this: start packing orders in the morning until about 8pm then answer emails until 3 or 4am. We are very sorry that we have not been able to get to everyone's emails in a timely manner, but please bear with us. Things will get back to normal soon. Thank you for your patience.
 

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Originally Posted by Mrs. CaSH
Hey Everyone. I just read this thread for the first time, and I just want to tell everyone that we had received a HUGE amount of orders in the first couple days since the relaunch and we're finally almost caught up. In addition to the orders, we receive at least 400 emails a day. We try to answer every email, but only having 2 people answering emails....you can see how some may not get answered right away or at all. Our day is like this: start packing orders in the morning until about 8pm then answer emails until 3 or 4am. We are very sorry that we have not been able to get to everyone's emails in a timely manner, but please bear with us. Things will get back to normal soon. Thank you for your patience.

i saw this post yesterday, and all I thought was, Gee I wish the seller I was having trouble with would have posted a comment such as this one!

This falls into communication, too, and this is a satisfactory response to general inquiries. She still needs to find someone to read her emails, though, and prioritize them. If there's a customer problem, she'll still need to respond to it no matter how busy she is. She can always hire a temp-- many people need jobs! :)
 

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I posted a much longer post on this in OUTSIDE. But I'll keep it simple....................HIRE PEOPLE.
I have been fortunate that all of my transactions have gone swimmingly but that is because I have tested suppliers before hand. Its simple, I send an email with a very easy answer and if I'm not heard back to in 2-3 days (NOT 1 day or 1 hour) then your as useless as .... on a boar.
 

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Okay. I understand your point. I shouldn't have implied that the new poster might not be being completely honest. That was wrong of me. Sorry! But, it really looked completely suspicious to me. Still, I shouldn't have said anything at all.

I was just getting ready to post when I saw this, Kendra, and I'm glad you said it. :)

I've been noticing lately an increase of people crying "fanboy" or "shill" when a positive comment is posted about a particular supplier. One of my biggest gripes is when people are quick to complain but slow to compliment, so I hate to see situations flourish where posters are afraid of saying something nice for fear of being accused of something that they probably can't prove or disprove.

And for what it's worth, I think that when one starts a new business, there are going to be bumps along the way. It's almost inevitable. My order wasn't quite correct. It took Parker a few days to respond, but he did . . . and he quickly remedied the situation. The fact that it took him some time to deal with me was not at all troubling because from my order, it was clear that I was well stocked and there was simply no need for urgency. And I think that is what D_Struct is referring to in terms of reasonable customer expectations and patience . . . a recognition that not everything can be handled immediately and not everything is an emergency. :)

But, yes, in spite of the fact that a supplier may be busy as all get-out, customers with problems (and customer service in general) can't be ignored. And in the case we're all thinking about, the customer did have a legitimate complaint, and the response from Parker wasn't appropriate. The fact that the customer was way over the top in terms of how he/she chose to pursue it simply doesn't change the fact that it should have been handled much better.

But I allow for the possibilities that people can actually learn, that you can put a wrong foot forward but recover from your mistake. I am a Pollyanna that way. :oops:
 
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