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Good tutorial for building basic coils?

Discussion in 'Rebuildable Atomizer Systems' started by BigCloudz, Aug 30, 2013.

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  1. BigCloudz

    BigCloudz Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 18, 2013
    So Cal
    Hey guys, pretty new to the whole mech/dripping deal. I have a SmokTech Magneto with an Igo-w. I bought the complete set up from a local shop and they built it for me. However, it tastes/seems like it's ready for a rebuild. I have some .5mm ribbon wire as well as some 3mm Ekowool in the mail, however before then I was just gonna goto the local shop and buy a foot of 28 or 30ga kanthal with some 3mm eko or silica wick and give it a go on my own.

    I have watched a million youtube videos, but I am noticing most are just showing you how to do the wrap, assuming you know which wire goes into the positive post/negative post and what-not. Is there a step by step (for complete RBA/RDA noobs) floating around here somewhere? Ideally it would either be a still shot or vid tutorial with some quality close ups showing how to wrap the coils where.

    I am leaning towards doing a micro coil for my first build as is seems to be pretty easy and still yield quality results.

    Any links/info is greatly appreciated!

    ~Cloudz
     
  2. The Yeti

    The Yeti Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 19, 2009
    Black Hills, SD
    It's a really big thread, but there's some great info/pics here.
     
  3. BigCloudz

    BigCloudz Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 18, 2013
    So Cal
    Awesome, I'll check it out right now. Thank you
     
  4. BuzzKilla

    BuzzKilla Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 4, 2010
    Etobicoke, Ontario
    the coil has no polarity, wires can go to either post.
    Just keep the coil itself from touching the surrounding metal in the atty and align the airhole to the coil.

    no brain surgery involved...

    best of luck!
     
  5. BigCloudz

    BigCloudz Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 18, 2013
    So Cal
    ah-ha! That does make things a lot easier. Awesome.

    ANother quick question. I read a lot about 28-30g kanthal for the micro's, does anyone have any experience with .5mm ribbon? Or better yet, what's the equivalent in "gauge" for .5mm? Sorry, not used to working with the metric system lol. In my line of work, I do know that .044 of an inch = 1mm, but not sure about the gauge. Also, with the ribbon wire being flat, it totally throws a wrench in everything.

    From what I read, it seems the .5mm is closer to something like the 28g than 30g. Can anyone chime in? Thank you!
     
  6. BuzzKilla

    BuzzKilla Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 4, 2010
    Etobicoke, Ontario
    i've dabbled with ribbon wire....
    i personally felt no difference, but i vape 0.4 ohm setups, so i may be the exception.... as a beginner, i would stay away from that. :closedeyes:

    if you dont have one get an ohm meter... at least then your not guessing as to how hot your setup is
    .
     
  7. BigCloudz

    BigCloudz Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 18, 2013
    So Cal

    I got flamed to hell and back for this; but the guys at my local shop set my magneto/igo-w at .3 ohms on my first build. I am not the type of guy to run off and not look into anything, not to mention the hours of research I had done before they built it for me. I was surprised, but not scared. I have all AW IMR18650's, and use my SVD to check resistance.

    I am not afraid of sub ohm coils, however if I can get a similar vape from a micro @ 1.3ish (or whatever), then more power to me. Do you think I can make it happen with the ribbon (the micro coil)?

    Thanks bro
     
  8. BuzzKilla

    BuzzKilla Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 4, 2010
    Etobicoke, Ontario
    anything is possible... i have a Z-AttyPro setup on my Provari @ 1.8ohms and the hit is very enjoyable.

    i dont like micro coils... more work than i want to deal with.
    the many people in the above mentioned micro-coil thread, should be an indication that micro-coils are a worth it.

    doesnt hurt to try if you have the time.

    for me though... i'll stick to my setups. they last long and take me less than 10 minutes from start to finish, to setup.


    Just a word of thought.
    If a shop is more interested in telling you what you should be using, rather than setting you up with what you want...
    I wouldn't go back.
    nothing wrong with a show and tell suggestion, but flaming a customer for not wanting a 0.3ohm coil is just messed up.
    :2c:
     
  9. BigCloudz

    BigCloudz Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 18, 2013
    So Cal
    RIght on.

    No, no. Got flamed on this thread for the .3 ohm because they thought I didn't know anything about electricity/dripping etc.

    However the guys are definitely tools at that shop and I have since, switched to another.

    If you don't mind me asking, what size wire and what type/size wick do you use for your set ups? How long do they typically last? Sorry for the 101 questions lol
     
  10. super_X_drifter

    super_X_drifter ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 4, 2012
    Somewhere out there
  11. BuzzKilla

    BuzzKilla Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 4, 2010
    Etobicoke, Ontario
    Sorry misread your post. flamer gonna flame, everyone start off somewhere... there is no need for a lot of the hate that gets thrown around on these forums.

    currently i rotate between my Z-Atty Pro, RSST by Smoktech, and ERA by BudzWorx

    Z-Atty Pro
    500 SS mesh(tightly rolled), currently experimenting with ceramic stone wicks from provape
    30 ga. kanthal @1.8ohms
    On Provari

    RSST
    500 SS mesh (loosely rolled & hollow)
    28ga. kanthal @ 0.7ohms
    On Caravela (18350)

    ERA
    Nextel XC-116 (braided ceramic rope)
    28ga kanthal, dual coil @ 0.4ohms
    On Caravela (18650)

    the thick gauge of kanthal makes it harder to pop the coil, so i never actually replace them out of necessity...
    I'm OCD when it comes to my coils, so i replace them when they dont look like new after a dry burn. it gives me something to do when im bored... i usually go about a month before replace coil and wick :laugh:

    good writeup Super X:thumb:
     
  12. BigCloudz

    BigCloudz Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 18, 2013
    So Cal
    PERFECT! Thank you very much kind sir!
     
  13. BigCloudz

    BigCloudz Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 18, 2013
    So Cal

    Again, very helpful! Thank you so much man.

    I am definitely intrigued by genny style atty's. If they vape somewhat close to a drip atty, that would be awesome considering the convenience factor!


    edit: ohhhhh that .7 RSST on the Caravela sounds sexy as all hell! :)
     
  14. damthisisfun

    damthisisfun Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 6, 2012
    Katy, TX
    Youtube is your friend too - a lot of folks here have posted vids............also a good site to pretty much find anything to make...........recently learned how to grill a perfecto steak.....
     
  15. super_X_drifter

    super_X_drifter ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 4, 2012
    Somewhere out there
    True. Here's a vid I made for a quick micro coil :)

    http://youtu.be/TdU74mrLXVA
    And part two: firing it up:
    http://youtu.be/N_TBtnLGlJQ



    Shot thru cyberspace with my iGun :
     
  16. BuzzKilla

    BuzzKilla Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 4, 2010
    Etobicoke, Ontario
    not a problem...
    any setup can be as good as a dripping setup, you just have to build it properly ;)

    and yes i love it, this is currently my carry around setup.... shameless picture, while on vacation!
    [​IMG]
     
  17. BigCloudz

    BigCloudz Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 18, 2013
    So Cal
    WOW! Beautiful!

    And loooky here! My .5mm ribbon wire just arrived... I have never messed with any type of wire, but man this stuff is small. GOnna take some getting used to with my gorilla fingers lol
     
  18. BuzzKilla

    BuzzKilla Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 4, 2010
    Etobicoke, Ontario
  19. Jazzi Mike

    Jazzi Mike Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 3, 2013
    Michigan
    Dude I love my helping hands alligator clips. They make things much easier!

    With the igo W, it is set up so you can use double coils. Basically, the positive post is the one that is attached to the 510 connection, meaning it is the middle post with the Igo w. the two outside posts are the negative ones.

    As far as actually wrapping coils, it is a matter of wrapping the kanthal over the wick. Some people wrap the kanthal around a drill bit and the shove the ekowool, silica, cotton, etc... Through the coils. Other people stick a pin through silica and wrap around that or you can put a paper clip with your silica and wrap the Kanthal around it. There are plenty of ways to skin a cat.

    My method is to use my helping hands alligator clips. I put the silica and wick in one clip and then pull it tight while I wrap my coil.
     
  20. damthisisfun

    damthisisfun Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 6, 2012
    Katy, TX
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