Got an A7? What's you take?

[dhomes]

Hey guys,

By now I have a bunch of toppers, genies, atties, etc

None so far has topped my cheap Phoenixes when I build a vertical coil on them (right now I'm using my dual coil igo-l and it's not even close)


That got me thinking, the difference between such coil in the Phoenix and others is that the coil is in the center of the chamber, so the dynamic of the airflow is different than in coils that are horizontal and offset from the center

Thinking the a coil going along the direction of the flow(which is mostly vertical as you force by inhaling from the top) I just went and ordered an A7

I'm planning on doing a wick that fits into the feeding hole ( not tight ), a hollow coil sothat flow goes inside and outside of it. Maybe drilling a whole (1mm) to add more flow to it.

Has any A7 owners out there tried it? What your general opinion of this atty (if you own one). Care to share pics of your setup?

 

[Thrasher]

unless something changed in the design the a 7 is a bottom feeder and drilling a hole is just going to kill the vacuum under the coil. and if the picture in my head matches your description moving a coil up near the top will need some long leads. maybe im not getting it.

i had one and no matter what i did i couldnt keep it from getting hot. and i have a bad habit of flooding bottom feeders so i dont use it anymore. i think others are getting a special driptip for it and making a spheroid kinda clone

 

[manji1]

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unless something changed in the design the a 7 is a bottom feeder and drilling a hole is just going to kill the vacuum under the coil. and if the picture in my head matches your description moving a coil up near the top will need some long leads. maybe im not getting it.

i had one and no matter what i did i couldn't keep it from getting hot. and i have a bad habit of flooding bottom feeders so i dont use it anymore. i think others are getting a special drip tip for it and making a spheroid kinda clone

Any ideas on where to get one of these drip tips? I have an a7 and the flavor is pretty impressive but it does have a tendency to leak excess juice onto the 510 connection through the bottom feeding hole.

 

[Thrasher]

not a clue called um a a7oid or something, maybe start another thread.

 

[manji1]

Cool, used google. I guess I should have tried that before asking. Here is the link.
| Captivape

 

[candimccann]

I don't see the air hole being a bad thing, if I loosen up the 'chimney' on my a7 mini it still produces well and reduces the gurgle.
I just can't wrap my head around a vertical coil. I'm looking at my posts and the location of the feed hole and just am not seeing it.
But that is just my exremely novice opinion, as it is my only rba and I have not experimented with anything beyond a mid-2ohm coil on silica.

 

[Cjax]

The A7 is my very favorite atty (next to maybe the Nimbus clone). I have the "oid" tip for it as well and it's really nice. There is an issue with it, though, that the center post can be a little wobbly on some. I have 2 and 1 came fine, but 1 I wrapped a small piece of 28g wire around the screw to tighten it up on the post, and now it's perfect as well. I wouldn't try sticking the wick down the center hole, it wouldn't get access to the juice unless you were using it on a bf mod, and then you'd definately have to drill out another airhole in the side. I think the fact though that the ir comes up from the center and points directly at the coil right above is a huge pluss. The air has to naturally pass over the coil by force of the draw. I stopped using my phoenix clones when I got the first one and now I use them both on my reo grande.

 

[littlewing6283]

i hate it. hate it hate it hate it

posts holes are positioned poorly when properly tightened

took some modification to keeop the center pin from shorting

for my lower cost drippers. Igo-l, igo-w, agi, octopus are worlds better imo

 

[Destro]

When I first got my A7 i hated it. i put it away for awhile and started messing around with them again and now I love my A7's I own 3. Overall performance is great. There are a couple issues-the adjustable pin is my biggest complaint as it always spins inward. The neg and pos posts are inconsistent in the position of the holes through the posts. One i have works well for me to get wire in and snap. The other 2 I own the positions are so bad when I try to do a junkyrock 13 style circle wick I gave up and just wrapped the leads around the screws then tighten down-works like a charm. The A7's do get pretty hot, i find a longer driptip helps with the heat. And some vendors advertising black A7's - I've ordered 2 and they are more of a gun metal-tho I heard the real black a7's exist. Overall despite the minor quibbles the performance of the a7 keeps bringing me back-rocking airflow/throat hit and plumes of vapor! Have never modified the air holes - think were they are placed at connection base is perfect. Been looking at A7oids from Captivape myself I am interested- even more to pick up a real Spheroid tho a bit pricey.

 

[dhomes]

The A7 is my very favorite atty (next to maybe the Nimbus clone). I have the "oid" tip for it as well and it's really nice. There is an issue with it, though, that the center post can be a little wobbly on some. I have 2 and 1 came fine, but 1 I wrapped a small piece of 28g wire around the screw to tighten it up on the post, and now it's perfect as well. I wouldn't try sticking the wick down the center hole, it wouldn't get access to the juice unless you were using it on a bf mod, and then you'd definately have to drill out another airhole in the side. I think the fact though that the ir comes up from the center and points directly at the coil right above is a huge pluss. The air has to naturally pass over the coil by force of the draw. I stopped using my phoenix clones when I got the first one and now I use them both on my reo grande.

Cjax, i dont have mine yet, just bought it so i have to wait for shipping and delivery

But yeah, im planning on sticking my wick there, i'll be using a hybrid Ss mesh & cotton around it to feed it

I have a fairly decent idea of what i'll do and i'll post pics here. Off course this is assuming it is as i imagine from the pics i have seen

I was also looking at the HIS Rba and all videos and posts say they are the best flavor, etc. what do these (phoenix, HIS, A7) have in common? Wick and coil are at the center of the chamber, not an offset from it

Again, my cheapo Phoenix hasnt been beaten by any of the other devices i have when it comes to flavor!

 

[dhomes]

i hate it. hate it hate it hate it

posts holes are positioned poorly when properly tightened

took some modification to keeop the center pin from shorting

for my lower cost drippers. Igo-l, igo-w, agi, octopus are worlds better imo

I've got an igo-l in the vape collection, setup as dual coil, and its not even close in performance to how my phoenix is working

 

[donnah]

I got one last week, I bought the Kit that came with the "oid". I'm still undecided if I like it well enough to keep and use it. I bought it to use on an older bottom feeder I have and it does feed really well.. but the bottom feeder I have has an issue with it's 510 connection and it won't make a connection to fire it. Plus, my BF doesn't have any short protection built in and I've been hearing that the A7 has an issue with the center post causing shorts so I've been using it on a provari. I have been getting some E1 errors and I guess it because of the way things are placed on the deck, it's easy for something to touch something it shouldn't and shorting.

It works well with the oid attachment. I have to stuff the sera up into it as opposed to wrapping the sera around the post and then inserting it. The mouth piece is interesting... it's very small and narrow while I'm used to a large wide drip tip. The mouth piece on the oid is metal and does get rather warm.. the A7 can get kinda hot. Even though the mouth piece is thin and narrow, it still gives a nice loose draw but it's like sucking on one of those coffee stirrer straws vs a big straw LOL.

It's not the easiest thing to get set up because once you thread the wires through the post holes, the coil has to be lifted up over the center air hole. I've been placing it diagonal across the air hole but it takes some finagaling and you have to keep the coil up off of the raised center air hole tube. I guess the E1 errors I've been getting is due to the coil being pushed down and coming in contact with this center air tube because when I take the top off to fill the sera and screw it back on, I'm frequently getting E1 errors.

I have a GP spheroid and it works really well. At the first I thought I like the A7oid better but I'm finding quickly that I don't. I don't know if my GP spheriod is worth $100 more but I definitely like it much more.

As far as flavor of the A7, I can't really tell. when I ordered, they sent a free sample of vanilla cola, which is pretty good but not something I want to vape frequently. When I first assembled the A7, I used the vanilla cola in it. When I decided I'd had enough of the vanilla cola, I took it all apart, washed it, rebuilt it and filled it with something else. I could still taste the vanilla cola, plus the errors started. So I took it apart again, rewashed it, let it soak in soapy water, rebuilt it and can STILL taste vanilla cola!

Anyway, I'll play with it some more and then I might sell or trade it. I'll include the 10ml bottle of vanilla cola LOL

In conclusion, this isn't a bad rba at all. Once I figured out that the coil had to be kept off the center tube, I haven't had any issues. I just refilled it and the vanilla cola taste is almost gone. I didn't get an error code when I screwed the top back on.

 

[Thrasher]

I've got an igo-l in the vape collection, setup as dual coil, and its not even close in performance to how my phoenix is working

i have a couple of the cheap v5 from fast tech and one is set to dual coils on my mech at 1.1 ohms and i cant breath after i take a drag of that thing. while the igo is ok and works good i will admit i wasnt exactly impressed im still not sure why they put the airhole on the lip of the deck.

 

[dhomes]

i have a couple of the cheap v5 from fast tech and one is set to dual coils on my mech at 1.1 ohms and i cant breath after i take a drag of that thing. while the igo is ok and works good i will admit i wasnt exactly impressed im still not sure why they put the airhole on the lip of the deck.

trasher, there are so many versions out there and clones of clones that one gets lost

this is the one i'm talking about (the one that gives me the best flavor above all else)
Phoenix Rebuildable Atomizer - Clone

I'm not a silica guy, so everything i built is with unoxidized SS Mesh or hybrid unoxidized+thin cotton layer to prevent shorts (like I have right now on a couple of EVODs)

 

[Thrasher]

trasher, there are so many versions out there and clones of clones that one gets lost

this is the one i'm talking about (the one that gives me the best flavor above all else)
Phoenix Rebuildable Atomizer - Clone

which is just like this one i got from fast tech lol

$4.09 M4 Electronic Cigarettes Round Mouth Solid Atomizer (Silver) - silver at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping


the only thing i can think of is the A7 has a recessed deck, you screw it down into the body after building it and there is not a lot of room in there. if it works cool..... post some pics but its no bigger then the phoenix really

since the m5 from fasttech is basically a sidehole a7 with a removable cover around the coil you might try that one as well

but if you want room to play
try this
http://www.fasttech.com/products/14...ectronic-cigarette-round-mouth-detachable-dri

same width as an igo but almost twice as high with plenty of room for even quad coils.

 

[Crash Moses]

I got one last week, I bought the Kit that came with the "oid". I'm still undecided if I like it well enough to keep and use it. I bought it to use on an older bottom feeder I have and it does feed really well.. but the bottom feeder I have has an issue with it's 510 connection and it won't make a connection to fire it. Plus, my BF doesn't have any short protection built in and I've been hearing that the A7 has an issue with the center post causing shorts so I've been using it on a provari. I have been getting some E1 errors and I guess it because of the way things are placed on the deck, it's easy for something to touch something it shouldn't and shorting.

It works well with the oid attachment. I have to stuff the sera up into it as opposed to wrapping the sera around the post and then inserting it. The mouth piece is interesting... it's very small and narrow while I'm used to a large wide drip tip. The mouth piece on the oid is metal and does get rather warm.. the A7 can get kinda hot. Even though the mouth piece is thin and narrow, it still gives a nice loose draw but it's like sucking on one of those coffee stirrer straws vs a big straw LOL.

It's not the easiest thing to get set up because once you thread the wires through the post holes, the coil has to be lifted up over the center air hole. I've been placing it diagonal across the air hole but it takes some finagaling and you have to keep the coil up off of the raised center air hole tube. I guess the E1 errors I've been getting is due to the coil being pushed down and coming in contact with this center air tube because when I take the top off to fill the sera and screw it back on, I'm frequently getting E1 errors.

I have a GP spheroid and it works really well. At the first I thought I like the A7oid better but I'm finding quickly that I don't. I don't know if my GP spheriod is worth $100 more but I definitely like it much more.

As far as flavor of the A7, I can't really tell. when I ordered, they sent a free sample of vanilla cola, which is pretty good but not something I want to vape frequently. When I first assembled the A7, I used the vanilla cola in it. When I decided I'd had enough of the vanilla cola, I took it all apart, washed it, rebuilt it and filled it with something else. I could still taste the vanilla cola, plus the errors started. So I took it apart again, rewashed it, let it soak in soapy water, rebuilt it and can STILL taste vanilla cola!

Anyway, I'll play with it some more and then I might sell or trade it. I'll include the 10ml bottle of vanilla cola LOL

In conclusion, this isn't a bad rba at all. Once I figured out that the coil had to be kept off the center tube, I haven't had any issues. I just refilled it and the vanilla cola taste is almost gone. I didn't get an error code when I screwed the top back on.

I can attest to great flavor on mine. One of my favorite drippers but you do have to keep the coil off the center airhole. The post position can be a pain when recoiling but I haven't had any issues once it's installed. Not nearly as fiddly as my IGO-L. I don't imagine micro-coils would be fun on this but I do like the central air hole as I can set the A7 on it's side without worrying about spilling juice (just don't turn it upside down).

As for the A7oid...I just received mine and I don't recommend it for low ohm vaping. I don't believe it can wick fast enough...flavor and vapor was okay but nothing like using it as a dedicated dripper. I believe that in "oid" mode a higher resistance coil more suitable for a VV/VW mod (making it more like a cartomizer) would be more appropriate.

 

[dhomes]

True, it's the same, I didn't bu mine from DV, mine is 1+ yrs old and got it from mountain oak vapors. I saw that fasttech had them a few weeks ago (vaporjoes had the link but I didn't bookmark it)

All pics and videos I have seen of the a7 tell me that it's quite bigger than the Phoenix, are you maybe referring to the A7 mini? I mean, there is a video on YouTube and the guy is rebuilding it, the A7 appears to be almost the lengths of his thumb

And if it's not that cool with me, I've been pushing getting me a bottom feeder for some time anyhow so that'llmgive me an excuse

(although right now my eyes are hard set on a Precise ELA, that to me is >>> GGTS )

 

[Thrasher]

well all i know is the a7 i got is about 6-7 months old easy and i dont remember where but it was sold as an a7, so kinda late to get mad now but if it is a mini it explains a lot of confusion for me.

but after searching for both versions and looking at pics i dont have a mini, i have this one.

http://www.empiremods.com/product_p/reba7.htm

and look at the drip tip compared to the rest of it, the guy in the video must have some small hands.



so unless there is a mystery version out there i never seen i think its not very big at all.

you will have some room to work, more the the phoenix clone but the posts stick up 5 mm over the seam in the body so the inside isnt as roomy as it appears just looking at the length

 

[Thrasher]

from left to right:
smok octopus
IGO-l
FT v5
A7
FT M5
FT m4 (phoenix)
spheroid
vision eternity
dripper pro

 

[littlewing6283]

I've got an igo-l in the vape collection, setup as dual coil, and its not even close in performance to how my phoenix is working

i have a phoenix too, not my favorite. different strokes for different folks