Got my first Mech in today

[Darkhorse0317]

Ha, no doubt. Still the one I posted previously was my first attempt at wrapping a coil around a wick, rather than threading the wick through the coil. None the less yes. Fun learning experience.

Been rebuilding my Kanger Protank II and aerotank coils for a long time with great success from the very first attempt. Given the size and space to work with I'm surprised at the learning curve of these RBAs

 

[twizted]

Ha, no doubt. Still the one I posted previously was my first attempt at wrapping a coil around a wick, rather than threading the wick through the coil. None the less yes. Fun learning experience.

Been rebuilding my Kanger Protank II and aerotank coils for a long time with great success from the very first attempt. Given the size and space to work with I'm surprised at the learning curve of these RBAs

Now all you gotta do, if you don't already, is start making your own juice & you'll be saving money hand over fist.

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[Darkhorse0317]

Actually I was interested in that long before I had any idea modding existed. Never took the plunge though. I suppose with kids and pets around I didn't like the idea of having pure nicotine laying around. Still... Now, if I could find a good starter pack for a wicked cheap price id probably give it a go.

 

[twizted]

I hear ya on the kids. I bought a safe just for that reason. If you do end up mixing your own, I highly recommend WizardLabs. They've have everything you need to DIY.

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[USMCotaku]

Looks like my type of build...

 

[Darkhorse0317]

Hopefully soon I'll be able to get that kind of uniformity with my coils as well.

 

[USMCotaku]

The secret to that type of coil is to wrap as close together as possible without overlapping, then remove from rod and pinch together with a pair of tweezers and heat with a butane torch (wear a good leather glove, tweezers get hot), I hold the torch on the coils for 10 seconds after they start to glow

 

[Darkhorse0317]

The secret to that type of coil is to wrap as close together as possible without overlapping, then remove from rod and pinch together with a pair of tweezers and heat with a butane torch (wear a good leather glove, tweezers get hot), I hold the torch on the coils for 10 seconds after they start to glow

Yea that's what I do (with fair success) when using Kanthal. I'm sure like with most things, I'll get better the more I do it. Can't really do it with gplat though, as it tends to melt.

One problem I have with doing what you described above with Kanthal though, is getting the coils integrity and shape to remain the same, especially with the higher wrap coils (which does make senses). When I put too much pressure on the tweezers then of course I'd expect to have issues, but for some reason it still happens even when I apply very light pressure as well.

 

[twizted]

Hopefully soon I'll be able to get that kind of uniformity with my coils as well.

You'll get there, it just takes a little time & patience.

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[USMCotaku]

Yea that's what I do (with fair success) when using Kanthal. I'm sure like with most things, I'll get better the more I do it. Can't really do it with gplat though, as it tends to melt.

One problem I have with doing what you described above with Kanthal though, is getting the coils integrity and shape to remain the same, especially with the higher wrap coils (which does make senses). When I put too much pressure on the tweezers then of course I'd expect to have issues, but for some reason it still happens even when I apply very light pressure as well.

try different tweezers that apply more even pressure. I bet if you look at your tweezers as you compress the coil, they will be angled out, putting more pressure on one side of the coil....larger tweezers might fix that

 

[jiminsandiego]

I use 2 pairs of tweezers to gently pull the wire straight while holing it over my gas stove. This lets you start with a straight annealed wire. I have 2 holes drilled in the edge of a work table about 2" apart. I put the wire in one hole and secure it with a cut off toothpick (in the same hole) and put a drill in the other hole to wrap the wire around. Using one hand and getting the coils tight from the start. Then I use my mod to dry burn the coils before squeezing with tweezers and adjust further with the drill bit inside the coil. 2 cents from a newbie,
Jim

 

[Darkhorse0317]

I use 2 pairs of tweezers to gently pull the wire straight while holing it over my gas stove. This lets you start with a straight annealed wire. I have 2 holes drilled in the edge of a work table about 2" apart. I put the wire in one hole and secure it with a cut off toothpick (in the same hole) and put a drill in the other hole to wrap the wire around. Using one hand and getting the coils tight from the start. Then I use my mod to dry burn the coils before squeezing with tweezers and adjust further with the drill bit inside the coil. 2 cents from a newbie,
Jim

Your efficient Chinese sweat shop method sounds like a dream. In keeping with the theme, I might elect for a Chopstick rather than a toothpick. But really that sounds like a great idea. This type of advice is a double edged sword. It's very helpful, yet it pisses you off that you didn't think of it first. None the less thanks for the input. In the end that's what were here for. To help each other out. Think I might try a variation of your coil assembly line.

 

[Darkhorse0317]

Oh yea, as I progress in my reintegration into civilian life, I start to notice certain idiosyncrasies. So, I apologize if my reply to your comment sounded sarcastic or condescending. I actually did appreciate your advice and am actually going to attempt something similar. Just know I wouldn't waste a moment of my day with the offensive banter if I didn't like you, or (if I don't know you) at least appreciate your input. Hope that adds a bit of clarity.

 

[USMCotaku]

Reintegration into civilian life? NEVER! lol, I've been out since 05.....still not "integrated"

 

[HecticEnergy]

Personally, I've stopped preheating my kanthal to remove springiness etc. I also stopped torching them after the fact. I fix them after I wire them in.

When I wrap I wrap tight and close together and they come out pretty good. But most attys will spread the wraps as I tighten down the leads to the posts. At that point it seemed like pre torching was a waste.
Anyway, I set my coil(s) and tighten the screws, then reinsert my drill bit into he coil and pull it back from the posts to tighten up the wraps. Then I fire the coils (after ohm check of course!) tighten them up with tweezers until they are good and even, and then I'll pull the wraps tight again, and tweezer them one lat time. This last pull tight seems to make it easier to wick as it smooths out the inside of the coil...
That's my process anyway...


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[twizted]

Take it from an ex 19kilo, civilian life isn't as good once you've been out of it for awhile.


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[USMCotaku]

I've not run into issues with my coils spreading while installing after torching, but I still tweak after they are screwed in, till I get the perfect from inside out glow....don't want any hot legs......unless they are attached to a hot girl

 

[HecticEnergy]

I've not run into issues with my coils spreading while installing after torching, but I still tweak after they are screwed in, till I get the perfect from inside out glow....don't want any hot legs......unless they are attached to a hot girl

Lol at hot legs!
I find it easier to leave the torch in the drawer and compress the coil all at once. May be the way I set the coil though. I keep it close to the posts so when I tighten the wraps it has room to move.


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