Got my first Naultus...and I'm far from impressed. Could use some advice.

[Tinkiegrrl]

If you want something authentic, go for an Expromizer. The machining isn't as good as an authentic Kayfun, but the vape quality.... It's really pretty great. Better, dare I say, then a Kayfun. I just got one yesterday and was blown away. I was disappointed in the machining on opening the box, but once I cleaned it up and got a coil in it the disappointment vanished. I had to give it to hubby, but I'm going to keep my eye out for more. The best price I've seen so far, from a USA vendor is VapinArt.com. $65 or around that. I believe they have the extended version still in stock for around $80, but the standard one is sold out right now.

It's easier to deal with then a Kayfun. It can be filled like any bottom coil clearo, without the need for a screwdriver or a needle tipped anything. The airflow is controlled by a ring for which there is no need of a hex screwdriver or a regular screwdriver. The juice channels are deeper to allow more juice to flow to the coil.... I love the overall design. I actually hope someone like hcigar or Ehpro clone it and get the threading right, as the threading is pretty choppy in areas.

 

[Asbestos4004]

I'd say they're not made in the same factory....not even in the same country. Real Svoemesto kayfuns are made in Germany. All others, including the Russian, are made in China. The machining on the authentic is better, the finish is better, the threading is smoother and I believe they're a tad heavier. Better grade ss for sure. But, vape quality between a good clone and an authentic is non existent. It comes down to the build. Actually, some of the clones might have a little better airflow. Personally, I like the standard air flow on a kayfun lite. All my lite +'s are set where the pre adjustables are....lol.

 

[Nautiboy1279]

I have heard good things about this RTA as well (Expromizer).

 

[DaveP]

On all airflow tanks; it's been my experience l, that the more juice you have in the tank the mores it you want to flow in; hence, more
Open you want the airflow control.
Personally I found the aerotank to be far better than the nautilus. Yeah I know this is the opposite of everything I heard. General to would fill the tank and close the hole all the way and take 2-3 primary puffs; then, open the hole all the way and start vaping. As I would notice the juice level dropping; I would close the hole a little bit. The Closing of hole help to maintain a vaccine pressure in the tank pushing the juice to the coil.
The same concept applies to both.


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Theoretically, the vacuum in the tank is equalized by the vacuum pulling air into the tank through the coil as you vape. If you look closely after you hit it, you'll see a tiny bubble of air rise from the bottom after every hit or two. You see it in the Nautilus, but not so much in the Aerotank because of the glass/SS construction of the tank itself.

 

[Fir3b1rd]

Theoretically, the vacuum in the tank is equalized by the vacuum pulling air into the tank through the coil as you vape. If you look closely after you hit it, you'll see a tiny bubble of air rise from the bottom after every hit or two. You see it in the Nautilus, but not so much in the Aerotank because of the glass/SS construction of the tank itself.

In theory; yes. But I've found it still runs a tad better with some help. Lol

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[DaveP]

In theory; yes. But I've found it still runs a tad better with some help. Lol

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When I'm using the Protank or the Nautilus I tend to loosen the tank at the threads once in a while when I get a dry hit. When I do I see a bubble or two rise. No vacuum can cause flooding. Some vacuum is a good thing.

 

[Shootist]

I'd say they're not made in the same factory....not even in the same country. Real Svoemesto kayfuns are made in Germany. All others, including the Russian, are made in China. The machining on the authentic is better, the finish is better, the threading is smoother and I believe they're a tad heavier. Better grade ss for sure. But, vape quality between a good clone and an authentic is non existent. It comes down to the build. Actually, some of the clones might have a little better airflow. Personally, I like the standard air flow on a kayfun lite. All my lite +'s are set where the pre adjustables are....lol.

I wasn't talking about the real ones and the clones being made in the same factory. I was talking about All The Clones being made in the same factory. I thought that was apparent. But I guess not.

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

I wasn't talking about the real ones and the clones being made in the same factory. I was talking about All The Clones being made in the same factory. I thought that was apparent. But I guess not.

I think I heard that Infinite used the same factory as another clone manufacturer. Aside from that, there's a definite difference between the different Kayfun Lite's I purchased. Ehpro Kayfun Lite + and V2 are both great. The Tobeco however.... Hcigar makes great quality items as well, but they do seem a bit different then Ehpro and Tobeco. I have yet to try anything from Inifnite.

 

[Fir3b1rd]

When I'm using the Protank or the Nautilus I tend to loosen the tank at the threads once in a while when I get a dry hit. When I do I see a bubble or two rise. No vacuum can cause flooding. Some vacuum is a good thing.

Next time instead of loosening the threads cover the air intake and blow in once or twice.
Someone told me to do that with my kfl and I thought they were nuts. Works like a charm.


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[Fir3b1rd]

I think I heard that Infinite used the same factory as another clone manufacturer. Aside from that, there's a definite difference between the different Kayfun Lite's I purchased. Ehpro Kayfun Lite + and V2 are both great. The Tobeco however.... Hcigar makes great quality items as well, but they do seem a bit different then Ehpro and Tobeco. I have yet to try anything from Inifnite.

I've only heard of infinite last week; haven't some any research but out of all the clones. - I have a few kayfun clones and an authentic. I've found the ehpro and Artemis to have the best; with ehpro being to spec with the authentic and the finish is just as nice; whereas, Artemis is also equal in build quality and finish as the authentic but they've done what some would call slight improvements; slightly larger airflow and slightly easier to fill. Hcigar I've found to be equally as nice as the ehpro and authentic with ever so slightly rougher threading. But; Hcigar has much better schwag with their products. All in all though I've found all of the kfl clones at least to. Vape identical to the authentics.
That said- I am sticking to clone attys for a while so long as it's an ehpro or Hcigar.
Tobeccos Vape the same; it's just worth the 10 bucks more for the high quality finish to me.


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[DaveP]

Next time instead of loosening the threads cover the air intake and blow in once or twice.
Someone told me to do that with my kfl and I thought they were nuts. Works like a charm.


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I cure the gurgling air flow section by holding the tank with the base higher than the drip tip and blow into the drip tip while holding a tissue over the air hole. That works, too.

 

[Fir3b1rd]

I cure the gurgling air flow section by holding the tank with the base higher than the drip tip and blow into the drip tip while holding a tissue over the air hole. That works, too.

Yeah I've always done that one till someone told me - to hold it upside down; cover the air hole and blow. It makes a sick mental picture but it works, it forced the juice back in the tank; I it world great while driving or if you're wearing nice clothes and you don't want to smell like juice.
I haven't had the chance to try it on the aspires or kangers but I don't see why it wouldn't.


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[DaveP]

Yeah I've always done that one till someone told me - to hold it upside down; cover the air hole and blow. It makes a sick mental picture but it works, it forced the juice back in the tank; I it world great while driving or if you're wearing nice clothes and you don't want to smell like juice.
I haven't had the chance to try it on the aspires or kangers but I don't see why it wouldn't.


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Sounds like a great way to stop the flood, but aren't you pressurizing the tank when you do that? I can see how doing that would blow the juice in the blanket back into the tank, but the blanket is a circular sheet of material that wraps all around the inside of the atomizer area. It seems like that method would only clear the part of blanket over the juice feed holes. But, whatever works!

 

[Fir3b1rd]

I didn't consider it from a structural aspect. Someone told me about it when I was having kayfun issues. A few days later i was using my aero to taste some homemade juice and it flooded so I figured why not try and low and behold it cleared it right out.


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[Fegbri]

Had all of the issues posted here. Ended up selling the nautilus after getting the Kanger Aerotank MEGA. Been using same coil ( the new inside wick ones that came with it) for 3 weeks with NO issues. Great vapor and taste I think is way better then Nautilus. Have a 2nd on the way with the new sub ohm (.8, 1, 1.2) coils! Can't wait!!

 

[DaveP]

I'm using the Aerotank Mega with Kanger T3S single coils right now because of the quality problems they are going through with the duals. I got a good one today. Last one out of the 5 pack and it's gone for about 24 hours and only reads 2.7 ohms and is still vaping with good flavor. The 2.2 ohm dual and single coils are lasting two hours to most of a day and hitting 4 ohms before burning out and reading open. It's apparently bad silver solder joints from my experience and the remarks of others.

There's definitely a lot of bad coils out there. One vendor in Denmark said they had gone through over 1000 heads with the same problem lately.

 

[Unforeseen]

Moved to Assorted APV Discussions - Clearomizers

 

[relink2013]

Yah, I'm actually using my 1st gen Aero Tank while I wait on my Kayfun. I did get the nautilus to work, but I just don't feel like it's reliable. Sometime It's got flavor sometimes it doesn't, sometimes It's tastes burnt sometimes I doesn't. Im over all just not impressed with the nautilus, very finicky coils.

 

[Nautiboy1279]

Yah, I'm actually using my 1st gen Aero Tank while I wait on my Kayfun. I did get the nautilus to work, but I just don't feel like it's reliable. Sometime It's got flavor sometimes it doesn't, sometimes It's tastes burnt sometimes I doesn't. Im over all just not impressed with the nautilus, very finicky coils.

My good friend got the Natuilus against my advice, and he has the same exact problems for the last few months and all coils he goes through. Finally he picked up a Kayfun which I will be building for him tomorrow.