Got the "antifreeze" argument again today

[Scoper50]

So I'm at work today, and i was just coming inside from my vape break because e cigs were recently banned inside the facility.

A Co worker, who is a well known smoking nazi approaches me and says, "How was the antifreeze?"

I gave him a puzzled look as if i didn't know what he was talking about. He says, "you know that's antifreeze you're smoking, right?"

I have been prepared for this conversation for awhile. I replied, "oh, you mean propylene glycol?" He nods. I said "propylene glycol isn't antifreeze. It's an ingredient used in antifreeze. Do you know what else is an ingredient in antifreeze?" He says "no". I said "water" ...long pause...

I told him that just because it contains an ingredient used in antifreeze doesn't make it bad, and it definitely doesn't make it antifreeze.

He seemed to be out of things to say because he hadn't actually done any reading or research on the topic. i went on to say that propylene glycol is also used in the ventilation systems in hospitals to help prevent the spread of airborne disease.

He says, "well, i still don't want to breath it. But given the choice of that or cigarette smoke, i guess... "

I said, "exactly!" Conversion over. I don't think that i convinced him that it's all safe and good, but i think i really surprised him when he saw that i had a reasonable argument to his accusation. I think he originally thought that he was going to teach me something. Turns out he didn't know anything except some propaganda he must've heard on the news

 

[EmeraldLeo1982]

BWAHAHAHAH water... awesome reply. Wish I coulda seen his face. You shoulda been like hold on a second *snap a phone pic* ..K, continue with your arguement.

 

[BigBen2k]

Yeah, that could have been the end of that conversation right there!

I guess he'll stay away from hospitals now?

 

[lexi60]

BWAHAHAHAH water... awesome reply. Wish I coulda seen his face. You shoulda been like hold on a second *snap a phone pic* ..K, continue with your arguement.

PG is used to make anti freeze less toxic.
And is in food flavoring, and medicine and in dog food and much more.
I hate when people say that.
Great response!
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[Rocketpunk]

Not to be a d-canoe, but I don't even bother to respond to people who say that. I could correct them and possibly educate them, but... pearls before swine and all...

So I'm at work today, and i was just coming inside from my vape break because e cigs were recently banned inside the facility.

A Co worker, who is a well known smoking nazi approaches me and says, "How was the antifreeze?"

I gave him a puzzled look as if i didn't know what he was talking about. He says, "you know that's antifreeze you're smoking, right?"

I have been prepared for this conversation for awhile. I replied, "oh, you mean propylene glycol?" He nods. I said "propylene glycol isn't antifreeze. It's an ingredient used in antifreeze. Do you know what else is an ingredient in antifreeze?" He says "no". I said "water" ...long pause...

I told him that just because it contains an ingredient used in antifreeze doesn't make it bad, and it definitely doesn't make it antifreeze.

He seemed to be out of things to say because he hadn't actually done any reading or research on the topic. i went on to say that propylene glycol is also used in the ventilation systems in hospitals to help prevent the spread of airborne disease.

He says, "well, i still don't want to breath it. But given the choice of that or cigarette smoke, i guess... "

I said, "exactly!" Conversion over. I don't think that i convinced him that it's all safe and good, but i think i really surprised him when he saw that i had a reasonable argument to his accusation. I think he originally thought that he was going to teach me something. Turns out he didn't know anything except some propaganda he must've heard on the news

 

[Mario87]

That was a great response to a stupid and ignorant question, GOOD FOR YOU!! If the conversation returns tell him that propylene glycol is also an active ingredient in Concerta 18, 36 and 54 mg which is taken orally and has helped many kids with ADHD.

 

[nomoe]

they do make antifreez with it. its a "green" product that is both biodegradable and animal safe put that in your pipe and smoke it

 

[ennagizer]

Good for you Scoper50. I received the same sort of comment just once. Me, being the fun and sarcastic guy I am, replied with something like "and it's also used in dog food <insert a good sluuuuuurp noise>. Oh, and it's probably in your salad dressing too - look it up."

 

[suspectK]

They use PG for injectable pharmaceutical solutions.

 

[Rocketpunk]

There are two types of ignorant:

1) Those who know they are ignorant and seek education.

2) Those who are happy being ignorant.

It's not that hard to differentiate between the two. It is incredibly easy for me to completely ignore the vowels and consonants coming out of a willfully ignorant person's mouth. No sweat off my back, like a duck in water, live and let live, leave the willingly ignorant be and just move on. Not worth a breath from my mouth.

I can always tell when someone who is ignorant and is willing to learn, though. Their brains are usually more developed. They are aware that they are ignorant of facts and are willing to learn. Those are the save-able people. They have potential and hope. It's all the others... At some point, just leave them to their own devices.

They'll scrape by.

 

[wbart]

I educate twice and then ignore. Unless they start an arguement over it then I just smack'em with my vamo... and knock some sense into them

 

[WarHawk-AVG]

BWAHAHAHAH water... awesome reply. Wish I coulda seen his face. You shoulda been like hold on a second *snap a phone pic* ..K, continue with your arguement.

That's what is called the dumbfounded look, or the deer in the headlights, or the (spoken like groo in "despicable me") Liiiiiiiiightbulb

or some of this

 

[denali_41]

there are still quite a few [thousands ] that believe vampires ,the type in movies are real and do actually exist ..so vaping anti-freeze is not a far stretch


Like so many others in this world,i use to believe money was the most powerful thing

Scared the living crap out of me when i realized ignorance is the most powerful thing !!

 

[Rocketpunk]

The willfully ignorant make themselves exceedingly known. Best to just leave them be. Don't even attempt it. Not worth the effort. Ignore them and move along.

Prime example: Anyone attached to Westboro.

 

[bnrkwest]

Good response. You could also ask if they gargled today, PG is in mouthwash too. bnrk

 

[Rocketpunk]

Not exactly related but I've been watching Ghost Hunters since 2006 and... I haven't seen single, verifiable proof that ghosts exist. Yet a whole TV franchise surrounds it. Not to hijack the thread or change the subject, but... We also also watch Toddlers and Tiaras, The Jersey Shore, Keeping Up with the Kardashians, Honey Boo Boo...

This is American society at large: "The Almighty tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're fooked."

there are still quite a few [thousands ] that believe vampires ,the type in movies are real and do actually exist ..so vaping anti-freeze is not a far stretch

 

[RosaJ]

Pg is also used in children's medicines. Here's an example, scroll towards the end under inactive ingredients:

CHILDRENS ACETAMINOPHEN ORAL SUSPENSION GRAPE FLAVOR (ACETAMINOPHEN) SUSPENSION [AARON INDUSTRIES, INC.]

Another one:

http://www.zyrtec.com/products/children/zyrtec-childrens-allergy-syrup

And, this one contains both glycerin and pg (from the FDA FAQS sheet):

http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/spl/d...41ae/87ae1f08-6b83-4601-9aec-fb34de2441ae.xml

 

[rogergendron1]

you should have told them yes its an anyi freeze the kind used to protect our drinking water

Hospital injections

And food flavoring

Shampoo

Skin cream burn treatments

And its in about 100% of the atificialy flavord food u eat

 

[scotton]

Better than what my responses would have been:

"You know what else is in antifreeze? Your mom!"

Or perhaps "I think you need to take this up with Dr. Thumb and his four lovely nurses. *open-hand-smack"

Or maybe "I can't believe I have to breath the same air as people like you. That has to be harder on my lungs than the 'anti freeze'".

"Did you know I had a dream where you died? Actually it was a day dream. Still having it. Still having it. ...."

 

[rogergendron1]

when I get that argument I usually ask do you know what kind of antifreeze?
they usually stare at me and go umm No
that's when I tell them that it's the antifreeze used and drinking water systems

and then go on to explain how was in every single artificial flavoring there is
in about all of it other uses to that have to do with ingestion or injections