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Hi all,

My smoking habits are 2 - 4 backwood cigars a day. Honey flavored. And yes I do inhale.

I have the blu e-cig and fairly happy with it. I supplement my backwood cigars for the cherry flavored blu e-cig. What I am afraid of is that I am happy with what I have only because I don't know what else is out there.

Looking around the web there seem to be a-lot of choices. :facepalm:
 

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Welcome!

You will get a TON of good advice here. The Blu ecigs are a very basic entry level sort of thing. That's not to say they are terrible, after all, they got your foot in the door... BUT! there are much much more satisfying products out there. Try not to get overwhelmed, take it slow, do a lot of reading and let us know what kind of things you're looking for. There are some decent devices that have a cigar form factor, if that even matters. There are also a lot of different price ranges to choose from.

edit: also, ask LOTS of questions
 

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Hello and welcome to ECF. If you are happy with your set up, then great! Be proud of that. Chasing the illusive something better will drive you crazy and to the poor house. I suppose there is always something better.

Are you looking to supplement cigars or stop them completely? There are some fabulous complex tobacco flavored liquids that you could purchase and not even miss your cigars. Honey cured too! I kid you not! Some of them taste so delicious and real, it blows my mind. You could buy a very simple eGo style battery that is the same size as your cigar, a few sample bottles of liquid, a cartomizer all for $30 and be happy as a clam. Lots of vendor links to be found here and lots of threads with suggestions on tobacco flavor vendors.
 

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on the off chance you want something cigar sized and shaped, these are decent:
Vapor Zeus - E-Cig Starter Kits | Vapor4Life
but IMO they are a bit over-priced and they are 808 thread, which limits your options if you want to use different parts eventually.

I agree with Skypea though, any of the eGo battery based things is a fantastic way to start (wish that I had started there). I'd probably suggest an eGo twist/spinner to get started. they can be pretty inexpensive, and they are variable voltage, which lets you "fine tune" your vaping to whatever you attach to it (tanks/cartos/etc).
 

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Great replies already.. Thanks for that, and please keep them coming. Your support is helpful in my transision.

Yes.. I plan to quit the cigars all together, but I dont think I need a vap that mimics the cigar. As long as it has good flavor I'm good. The throat hit is good when my cartrige is new.. but decreases quickly. I would like a full flavor all the time of course, but I'll take what I can get. If I can get away with the 30 dollar idea that would be great, but I dont have a problem with spending more money up front instead of nickel and dimeing myself till I find something I like.

Thanks for the links on the cigar idea, but I would like something less conspicuous. Something pocketable would be nice as well.
 

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Hi and welcome!

Maybe you can tell us a little more about what your lifestyle/smoking habits are. You said 2-4 cigars a day - do you smoke them, put them out, light up again through out the day or do smoke one from start to end? How much time do you think you spend smoking? What's your day like? (For example, the needs of a long haul trucker would be different from those of a nurse who could only grab a few puffs on a break.)

Do you like to tinker around with stuff or would you prefer something simple? What do you consider "pocketable?" Are you out and about often, where something could fall out of your pocket?

I know this sounds like I'm prying, but this info helps members come up with better suggestions to fit your needs.

Cheers!
 

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Welcome to ECF. Pretty new to the forums myself but I can try to point out a couple of models to look at for various situations.

1) Batteries you stated something inconspicuous and can be pocketed I'd go a couple at least 2 JoyeTech Ego-C Twist (Vision makes a version called the Spinner basically the same battery setup with a dial on the bottom to crank voltage up and down) with a USB charger cable and wall adapter, maybe even a car cig-lighter adapter in the kit, 650 mah rating (mah = milli-amp hour, higher this rating the longer the battery lasts before needing recharging. These in length are about the width of a hand so pretty compact and can be fit nicely in a pocket, so can be great for out and about, at work, etc. Keeping a case to carry the extra battery, charger, adapter, and couple extra attachments like cartomizers, tanks, drip tips, extra bottle of juice can work real well. They have 2 type of threading, internal 510 thread for basic cartomizers, cartomizer tanks, drip atomizers, etc, and external Ego Cone threads which can accept clearomizers with this threading like the Kanger T3s, Evods, Vision Stardust (CE4) etc opening up your range of attachments you can use. Another alternate to the Ego like the Vision would be a Kgo also.

2) An at home battery, again you can go with a 650mah battery, doesn't have to be a variable volt like the twist or spinner, but one with a "usb pass-through" would be highly advisable but not necessary, but has the benefit of it is connected to a cable with a usb plug in at the bottom, as you use it, it continues to keep the battery charge topped off, great for next to your recliner as watching tv and such.

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1) Cartomizers are great in they can be prefilled, compact, pretty inexpensive, and easy to maintain. Look into Boge or SmokTech 510, standard resistance (2.0-2.5) ohm, want the liquid to last longer between refills look into the XL or XXL size to start off.
2) Couple Atomizers with drip tips. These are great to test flavors with, couple drops, 3 to 4 in it, plop a tip on, put on your battery, fire away to check how a juice is going to taste to your pallete, great to have around if you visit a brick and mortar juice vendor, great for at home when you need a break from your normal vape liquid with another flavor for a bit. They produce the best vapor, taste, and throat hit.
3) Tank style attachments. Clearomizers, DCTs (Cartomizer Tanks, tanks that house a normal cartomizer that has been punched, slotted, or drilled with hole in the side and extra liquid outside the carto) if you really like cartomizers, more liquid storage for extra mileage during the day between refills. Clearomizer tanks like the Kanger T3, Vivi Nova, and such use a wick leading into an atomizer head, these can be top coil (generally a warmer vape as the coil is at the top) and bottom coil generally cooler vape as the coil is at the bottom, but has the added bonus of you don't have to keep tipping the tank to keep the wicks wet, similar in fashion to how a DCT works.

First kit I would order as a suggestion, one with a case, charger, wall adapter and car adapter if you have to buy extra do so, should have 2 batteries, 2 Clearomizers or some type of tank, preferably one that the heads can replaced like the CE5s, Kanger T2s T3s (MT3), Evod, Vivi Nova, etc, at least one 510 atomizer, one drip tip, bottle of juice at least 30 mililiters in your prefered nicotine strength (nic strength measure in miligrams per mililiter (18mg or 1.8% are same strength as an example). Probably $50-$80 USD should be a good starter kit price. Getting a pack of blank cartomizers if you find a clearomizer isn't your thing on hand to fill and cheap to replace is advisable, and if you really like cartomizers, later down the road look into the Carto Tank Systems.

Little bit of a long post, but hopefully I've given some aswers to point you in good direction and good luck.
 

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Hi and welcome!

Maybe you can tell us a little more about what your lifestyle/smoking habits are. You said 2-4 cigars a day - do you smoke them, put them out, light up again through out the dayYes. Very seldom do I smoke from begining to end. or do smoke one from start to end? How much time do you think you spend smoking? An hour a day. Quick puffs here and there. And when driving.What's your day like? (For example, the needs of a long haul trucker would be different from those of a nurse who could only grab a few puffs on a break.)

Do you like to tinker around with stuffYES or would you prefer something simple? What do you consider "pocketable?"I like the HALO Triton (i think). I know the G6 would fit in my pocket nicely. Are you out and about often, where something could fall out of your pocket?

I know this sounds like I'm prying, but this info helps members come up with better suggestions to fit your needs.

Cheers!

Thanks for prying. I think the search is almost as fun as the purchase.
 

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Haha! Lots of help and great suggestions! Ok, no nickle and diming, then I would go with the Vision Spinner or Ego Twist as IMFire suggested. Long battery life, variable voltage to adjust for your sweet tasting spot on flavor and you will be in vaping heaven. More vapor then your current set up, more flavor then your current setup. Go for it! ;)

But it is not really pocketable as much as your blu. Less conspicuous means less battery life. Hour versus all day. But you could use it it home and take your Blu on the road.
 
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maybe you can tell us a little more about what your lifestyle/smoking habits are. You said 2-4 cigars a day - do you smoke them, put them out, light up again through out the dayyes. Very seldom do i smoke from begining to end. or do smoke one from start to end? How much time do you think you spend smoking? an hour a day. Quick puffs here and there. And when driving.what's your day like? (for example, the needs of a long haul trucker would be different from those of a nurse who could only grab a few puffs on a break.)

do you like to tinker around with stuffyes or would you prefer something simple? What do you consider "pocketable?"i like the halo triton (i think). I know the g6 would fit in my pocket nicely. are you out and about often, where something could fall out of your pocket?


thanks for prying. I think the search is almost as fun as the purchase.

Hi again

As I'm sure you have figured out there are lots of cool toys in the wild world of vaping. I also get the feeling this may turn into a hobby for you - just a feeling.

Most often new vapers get suggestions for standard eGos or Joytech eGo Twists/Vision Spinners (both are variable voltage), which is what I recommend myself, to people who smoke at least 1.5 PAD of cigarettes. The reason these types of devices are recommended over "cig-a-like" type batteries for the most part, is their mAh (milliampere hour) which is the length of time a battery will run between charges. 100 mAh is roughly equal to 1 hour of use; the higher the mAh, the longer the battery will last (it tends to be less when vaping).

Cig-a-like batteries run about 180mAh (some more, some less), and while there are small "stealth" eGos and larger ones, vapers usually end up with devices in the 650mAh to 1300mAh range. I think you can see the difference. There is also a size difference: the more mAh, the bigger the battery will be. To give you an idea of the size, here is a 1000mAh Twist next to an average sized cat:

ETA: It says there is an attachment here, but I don't see it. Anyway, the point was that a 1000mAh Twist with a small tank is taller than my cat.

Glass tip Sera 2.jpg

It's a fabulous vape, but a bit unwieldy while driving - which you noted is when you often smoke.

Since you have been inhaling cigars, you are probably used to a strong throat hit. While variable voltage devices allow fine tuning of the power (watts) produced by a battery, which affects the temperature the liquid is vaporized at, the primary elements of throat hit are the propylene glycol (pg)/vegetable glycerin (vg) ratio and the level of nicotine. Higher levels of pg and nicotine will give you more throat hit, higher vg will produce more vapor. The point I'm making, is that you don't have to have a huge battery to get a good throat hit.

As I said, I have a feeling this might turn into a hobby for you, so I'm sure you will have lots of fun looking at all of the toys (and will likely get some), but based solely on the smoking habits you described (and that you liked the size of the G6), you might want to take a look at the "eRoll," (aka eMini) which is a small device, but uses a PCC (personal charging case) to charge on the go.

eMini (aka eRoll) Review by Field of Vapor - YouTube

I'll let the rest of the gang chime in with the bigger battery recommendations - and before anyone else says it just get a ProVari (That's a joke. If you don't get it now you will after hanging around here a while.)
 
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Well... after some research I am finding I am limited with flavor selection with my blu. Also I think the juice bottles may last longer than the cartomizers (I think they are called cartomizers).

I believe I will be purchasing the ego twist 650 (even though I am disappointed because they only have black and silver) / with the vivi nova mini tank, and some juice probly from heathers heavenly. Also I will want an atomizer for the juice testing.

Any objections? Also, what are the tanks called CE's?
 

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Well... after some research I am finding I am limited with flavor selection with my blu. Also I think the juice bottles may last longer than the cartomizers (I think they are called cartomizers).

I believe I will be purchasing the ego twist 650 (even though I am disappointed because they only have black and silver) / with the vivi nova mini tank, and some juice probly from heathers heavenly. Also I will want an atomizer for the juice testing.

Any objections? Also, what are the tanks called CE's?

First welcome to the forum. :)

I drive a lot for my job, and find the 650 to be a great size for that purpose. Mine last quite a while, I only have to switch batteries once a day, but they are brand new. I've read a lot of good things about the nova's but picked up an evod tank as it was readily available and I have to say I'm really happy with it.

Good luck!!
 

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Welcome. I started one month ago with the Ego-T which in a non-adjustable battery. I have 2 that are 650mah and 2 1100mah. I just ordered the Vamo V2 which is adjustable volts/watts and uses rechargeable batteries that are separate. I plan on using the Vamo for my main at home unit and the Ego's when I'm running around. You want to make sure you have at least 1 backup unit for when your battery runs down. I got my Ego 1100's off Ebay and it was 2 complete units for $40 and no shipping. There's a lot of good supplies listed and linked in the posts here. Start simple so you don't get frustrated and then progress.
 

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Well... after some research I am finding I am limited with flavor selection with my blu. Also I think the juice bottles may last longer than the cartomizers (I think they are called cartomizers).

I believe I will be purchasing the ego twist 650 (even though I am disappointed because they only have black and silver) / with the vivi nova mini tank, and some juice probly from heathers heavenly. Also I will want an atomizer for the juice testing.

Any objections? Also, what are the tanks called CE's?

Welcome!

As far as tanks I suggest going with a BCC style (Bottom Coil Changeable) Like an EVOD. I use a Tabac BCC on my eGo and love it.

As far as the Twist goes, you can't go wrong with it. I will make the suggestion of getting a pass through twist, it just makes it easier to charge while out and about and still be able to vape while charging.

I pocket my eGo all the time and never felt that it was an issue.

Good luck!!!
 

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Well... after some research I am finding I am limited with flavor selection with my blu. Also I think the juice bottles may last longer than the cartomizers (I think they are called cartomizers).

I believe I will be purchasing the ego twist 650 (even though I am disappointed because they only have black and silver) / with the vivi nova mini tank, and some juice probly from heathers heavenly. Also I will want an atomizer for the juice testing.

Any objections? Also, what are the tanks called CE's?

Here's some more colors:
Joyetech Joye eGo-C Twist Variable Voltage 650mAh Battery
If buying the Vivi Nova tank make absolutely sure it's the genuine Vision brand Vivi Nova. My Vivi heads are lasting 10+ weeks before having to replace.
The CE4 is the Stardust- first clearomizer type in the market. I used them but switched to the Vivi because of quality issues.
 

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Welcome!

As far as tanks I suggest going with a BCC style (Bottom Coil Changeable) Like an EVOD. I use a Tabac BCC on my eGo and love it.

As far as the Twist goes, you can't go wrong with it. I will make the suggestion of getting a pass through twist, it just makes it easier to charge while out and about and still be able to vape while charging.

I pocket my eGo all the time and never felt that it was an issue.

Good luck!!!
Is the EVOD and the TABAC the same size as the vivi mini tank? I like the idea of the bottom coil because I hear you can get a cooler hit? Also, when I look up the twist I don't see where they specify whether it is a pass through or not.
 

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Is the EVOD and the TABAC the same size as the vivi mini tank? I like the idea of the bottom coil because I hear you can get a cooler hit? Also, when I look up the twist I don't see where they specify whether it is a pass through or not.

Someone else will have to answer the tank question because I have never used the vivi mini tank. But I have used the EVOD and Tabac and love them both.

As for the Twist, it will say passthrough if it is. I looked around and I am not seeing any in stock, or even listed on most sites. I'm at work right now but later when I get time I will see if I can find one. I did google ego twist passthrough and found a few things on it. Just nothing that was for sale yet.
 
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