Got the new Sapphire 2.0...

[LordDavon]

So, I filled up the new 3.0-3.2ohm Sapphire 2.0, put it on my Infinity Pro and started vaping.

First Impressions:

The Good:

• The vapor production is very good.
• Flavor isn't burnt at all, and was very good.
• No matter how much liquid is left, it doesn't seem to taste burnt.
• Can vape consecutively without burning.

The Bad:

• Draw is very slow. Almost feel like you are sucking through a pinhole. Could use a bigger hole in the mouthpiece.
• Air passes through the fluid, making a gurgle. This adds additional resistance to the draw. Making the above point even more important.
• After around 15 - 25 minutes of use, both units started leaking. Not sure they can handle the high voltage from my Infinity Pro. Either that, or I just got a bad batch. Either way, they leaked out a ton of juice, made a mess.

Conclusion:

Well, I really wanted to like the Sapphires. If I had a longer time to use them, I may have been able to mod the mouthpiece for more draw, and fell in love with them. Unfortunately, I didn't have enough time. I am interested in getting another pack, they are pretty cheap -- and trying them at a lower voltage. If they survive longer, they may be mod-able to become a great vaping item. As of right now, I just can't recommend them. The Vision Extreme Stretch, Vision Extreme Regular and Fluxomizer are all much better options, provide great vapor and have excellent flavor. These just can't compete.

 

[zer0ith]

I'm actually using rev 1 as a bridgeless atty on my reo right now.

I think I might need to increase the air hole size, or a second one.

It's nice to see a review on the rev2. Look forward to other peoples opinions as I did like them, just they didn't perform as well as would have liked.

Might just have to pick one up next order to try for myself

 

[teslastick]

Ya the newer so called improved ones I just bought leak really bad and they don't draw well either. They got the blue cap though.........

 

[Briar]

Did they leak from the seals or from the bottom hole?

 

[LordDavon]

Looks like the seals. Most of the tank drained out, so it's hard to fully tell without refilling again.

 

[prole]

No leaks, but performance fall off pretty quickly

 

[krazynavybiker]

I've had my mine for about a week now; I have 2 in rotation and have had no problems at all. Flavor was off for the first fill but got much better after that. I may try to clean one this weekend even though as far as I can tell it really does not need it hoping that goes well, if not I have 8 more.

 

[badkolo]

mine are fine and im getting nothing but thank you emails on the improvements.

maybe the memebers here can help you out and ill look into some for you but i tested many and had no issues.

 

[LordDavon]

Bad, what voltage do you use with yours?

 

[Credo]

On Draw:
You can pull plugs from the mouth piece, at least I can with the Giant ones, and open up the draw some if desired. After two plugs, there is a hole you can easily wallow out and make bigger if you like.

With a CE2, I find they work better at lower voltages for sure. If you want a warmer hit...the trick is to let them heat up for about half a second before you draw, then don't suck it too hard. You can do a quick easy puff, or a long slow puff to suit your prefs, but that half a second warm up time to me works better than a 'higher voltage' for getting a 'warmer hit'.

From day one the CE2 has been more like a 'light ciggy' to me, and has little 'wetter feel' to it. This is exactly why I prefer these for 'all day' vaping. If I want something hits more like a 'filterless cig', I go for the dualies at around 12 watts GV realizes the dualies are a great carto too, and many folks request them in the exact same order as the 'exotic cartos' so they have them in stock.

On leaking, mine have not leaked any liquid, but they can accumilate 'condensation' that eventually falls down into the air tube and gurgles. To keep this from happening, I just make sure the mouth piece is clear of vape by draging a bit after letting the button off, or doing an occasional 'cold draw' to pull it all out before it turns back into 'water'.

If your tank 'drained', it's probably a defective one. Open up a dialog with badkolo (Chris), he'd probably like to get his hands on it and inspect it so he can share what he learns with the 'factory' so they know who and how to watch for and prevent said 'defect'.

Mine hasn't leaked a drop in that respect, and I stress mine pretty good flipping and pocketing it on a Darwin.

 

[LordDavon]

Credo, this was about the Sapphire 2.0's. Are you confusing them with the Vision Extremes?

 

[Credo]

Credo, this was about the Sapphire 2.0's. Are you confusing them with the Vision Extremes?

Ugg, wrong thread.
Yes, I was referring to the Vision Deux. My bad.

I got the sapphires too, though mine 'might' be version 1 instead of 2. I got them some weeks ago and have lost track.

I'm working on 3 of them now.
2 of the HV and one of the LR (I gave another LR and HV one to a pal to try out). In addition I have a box of the HV ones still unopened.

None of mine have leaked at all.
I've put about 5ml or more of liquid through each one. One of them more like 20ml.

On draw, yes, they are pretty tight but I like it as a change up from the Visions and CE2s. My LR one got tight much faster, as I'd been using a pretty thick liquid through them. I pulled it apart, torched the original wick good with a butane torch (it was stuck to the coils so I just left it that way), then ran it through an ultrasonic cleaner. Put it all back together. The draw was extremely tight then, and the resistance had climbed up to 2.5 Ohms. Good news though...as it dried out, both the air flow, and the resistance returned to more like it was when new. Still no leaks on this.

Next time the draw gets terribly tight, I'll probably not try cleaning it as before, but instead just do lots of burns to see if I can dry it up. I think it just got 'puffy' and expanded over time. We'll see how that goes.

The two HV ones still work like new. I've only used GV Flux Premium flavors on those two, and it's the two I use most. Crystal and Lasso are both pretty dark, but are also all PG. So far they've wicked wonderfully in all my cartos and atties.

I'll definitely get more when these go. They are lasting really well, and are quite convienient as 'at work' cartos on my Darwin.

I really like the GV Lasso flavor in these sapphires, not as much in the Visions.
The Crystal flavor I like better in the Visions and less in these.

Still, all the stuff I suggested about opening a dialog with bad and possibly returning any that leak for inspection applies. Neither of my 3 have leaked at all. The friend that I gave a 4th one has not complained yet...

 

[LordDavon]

Hmmm... I wonder if I just got a bad batch. Maybe something happened to them during shipping. Who knows. They leaked pretty bad though. I was liking them up until then, though.

 

[Credo]

Hmmm... I wonder if I just got a bad batch. Maybe something happened to them during shipping. Who knows. They leaked pretty bad though. I was liking them up until then, though.

A couple of options on things to try/consider.

1. If you've not already taken them apart for study: Message badkolo to see if he wants to have a look at them to see what might have gone wrong at the factory. I'm pretty sure he'd love to nail down any possible QC defects that might have gotten through from the factory.

2. If you have cracked the open and have the time and patience to spare try this...
A) See if using a long piece of wire to fluff the wick doesn't help. If it's coming through one of the holes at the bottom of the carto, this may well fix it.

B) Pull the sleeve off and see what you can learn. Nothing to loose right?

I can't imagine liquid getting out of these things any other way than through the wick itself, then through the atty, and out of the bottom of the carto. If it is somehow seeping through the sleeve...then it's possible some of the tubing at the factory is too large...not to 'spec'. If you think that's the case, PLEASE let badkolo know. He'd probably want the evidence at hand to share with his suppliers bad enough to pay to have it shipped back to him.

Bad (Chris) is a stand up guy. He'll work with you and treat you right.

 

[badkolo]

standup guy I am

 

[LordDavon]

standup guy I am

lol. You've always been good to us. If you want to PM me your address, I am more than happy to ship them to you. If you can figure out what happened, that's great. I don't need a refund or replacement. I'm too in love with Fluxos and VEs to care. It was only like 6 bucks.

LD

 

[LordDavon]

I decided to fill one up with water, to see where it is leaking, and it isn't leaking. I am going to try it out again.