great news from Italy

[njfabio]

One of the most famous Italian oncologist , Umberto Veronesi ,defended the use of the ecig ,claiming that it could save the lives of 30 thousand people (smokers) in Italy and half million world wide .
L’attacco di Veronesi: con le e-cig salveremmo 30 mila vite, ma il governo non pensa ai morti - Corriere.it

 

[Petrodus]

Here is the article in English via Google Translator LINK

 

[TyPie]

GRACI, Dr. Veronesi!! Graci!

(I HOPE this means "thank you" in Italiano!!......lol.......)

 

[rothenbj]

I love the google translation, I love the message. Good article.

 

[Vocalek]

By now, thousands of U.S. doctors must have have witnessed their patients experiencing health improvements due to switching. Why don't they speak up?

 

[Petrodus]

By now, thousands of U.S. doctors must have have witnessed their patients experiencing health improvements due to switching. Why don't they speak up?

and risk reprisals from BP, the Alphabet groups, ANTZ, Mommie FDA ... ETC

 

[Orb Skewer]

Lives saved V's a broken economy.

Italy's Crumbling E-Cigarette Industry or How Excessive Taxation Can Ruin a Booming Business | E-Cigarette Reviews and Rankings

 

[Vocalek]

I emailed Dr. Polosa asking he had seen the article. He had. He sent me this link to another story. I already ran it through the English machine. Google Translate

 

[xpen]

Make that "no lives saved AND a broken economy"..

As Dr. Veronesi points out, it's a typical case of short-sightedness:

being faced with declining tobacco sales (due to excessive taxation *) our government decided to impose a whopping 58% sales tax to e-cigs, in order to make them less appealing to cash-strapped citizens - thus leveling the playfield back in favor of tobacco..

That'd be criminal in its own right, but the "funny" side of it being that they're totally forgetting - or pretending to forget - that we spend about 3 billion euros/year (4 billion USD) on tobacco-related illness...

Couple that to having crushed a booming business, and you get the idea: less money and less health for everyone, in one (stupidly criminal) shot.

I'm mad.

* tobacco sales is a State-run monopoly in Italy

Lives saved V's a broken economy.

Italy's Crumbling E-Cigarette Industry or How Excessive Taxation Can Ruin a Booming Business | E-Cigarette Reviews and Rankings

 

[xpen]

I'm available to properly (*) translate those articles from Italian to English, if needed.

* English not being my first language, within (my own) limits

 

[Vocalek]

I'm available to properly (*) translate those articles from Italian to English, if needed.

* English not being my first language, within (my own) limits

Xpen: It would be helpful if you could compare the original Italian to the Google translations and let us know if there are any ideas that got lost in the translation.

 

[xpen]

Will do, probably during the weekend.

Xpen: It would be helpful if you could compare the original Italian to the Google translations and let us know if there are any ideas that got lost in the translation.

 

[Vocalek]

Gratzie. (I've learned how to say Thank You in 9 languages...but that's about it.)

 

[xpen]

My pleasure

 

[Uma]

The Dr.'s probably haven't been asked to step forward, Elaine. Heck, 3/4 of them are still saying "e who?"

 

[xpen]

I went thru the translated article, and indeed it's faithful enough to the Italian original... the only relevant difference is the translation of 'miliardo' which should be 'billion' instead of 'trillion' IMO.

While I was at this, I've also read the other linked article, and found it quite true to facts.

To recap, we've eventually seen the hypocrisy behind the tobacco taxation policy unmasked... for decades they've said "we're rising the tobacco products' taxation again, but it's for your own good", now it's finally crystal clear that public health wasn't an issue. at all.

Vocalek, feel free to contact me in the future for similar issues, I'm always glad to contribute what I can.

Xpen: It would be helpful if you could compare the original Italian to the Google translations and let us know if there are any ideas that got lost in the translation.

 

[xpen]

Oh, and here is the link to other, astonishly good, news from today..

Effective today vaping is now allowed at any public places in Italy, except public schools (strange enough, no mention of hospitals); an amendment to existing law has been in fact approved.

I expect the usual suspects to counterattack very soon... but for the time being, enjoy!

UPDATE: another article on the same news, here.

 

[AgentAnia]

Oh, and here is the link to other, astonishly good, news from today..

Effective today vaping is now allowed at any public places in Italy, except public schools (strange enough, no mention of hospitals); an amendment to existing law has been in fact approved.

I expect the usual suspects to counterattack very soon... but for the time being, enjoy!

UPDATE: another article on the same news, here.

Excellent news, xpen! Excellent! Thanks for posting.

Query: My Italian is very weak. Is "svaporare" used to mean vaping? In one of the articles, google translated it as "evaporate" when I think the Italian meant vape...

 

[xpen]

Vaping, actually to vape, is 'svapare' in Italian; it's a neologism, though, so you won't find that verb in a formal dictionary - nor in Google translate, apparently

By the way I don't like very much that word, FWIW it sounds juvenile to me... I think 'vapare', without the initial S would have been better as a verb, much more similar to Spanish 'vapear' for instance. But then, who am I to complain?

 

[Anjaffm]

wow! that sure is great news!