Greetings & Salutations

[secretsquirrl]

Thanks again VP, I didn't realize you guys had an ongoing discussion. I'll just leave you guys to it. Just that I found both your(you and WV) posts insightful.

@sherid,
That's what I had originally thought too. Plus their marketing using the typical hot babe to intro the product was rather intriguing. No offense to the ladies.

About a year ago, I noticed some heavy discussion in the media about e-cigs and there was a company out in Reno,NV that had a really great name. I bookmarked them thinking that I'd one day spend $150 for their starter kit, but figured that as time goes on, their prices would drop. Eventually my PC went apefit and I lost the link. I was trying to find them, when I came across the blucig site. I thought the prices were a little surprising since it's lower than average(most e-cig suppliers) and so I was concerned about their product quality. I would give'em a try but I wanted to start my vaping experience with some better known company first.

Perhaps down the line I'll give'em a try and see how it goes. After doing a bit more reading and watching the video WV suggestion, I've come to realize that most e-cigs come pretty much from the same source(various companies in China) and then rebranded/packaged here with some minor modifications. So I guess that lone company out in NV probably was doing the same thing. Either way, I've placed my order with dietsmokes and hopefully I won't be disappointed.

 

[usamare]

Yeah the 25 carts on top of the pack/recharger made me do a triple take! heheh
But the OP made a safe call by going for the 510.
The Blu looks like a standard super-mini. Easy and clean to swap carts while driving, but not really outstanding performance in any other regard.

 

[skippy]

Checked out bluecigs, I'm impressed. Really like the charge on the go feature, I could use that.

 

[secretsquirrl]

out of curiosity,

Would this be a fair assessment(in terms of usage duration)?

Marlboro 25s' = super-mini
Marlboro regular = 510/410
Marlboro 100s = pen-style
Marlboro carton = screwdriver/prodigy

 

[usamare]

out of curiosity,

Would this be a fair assessment(in terms of usage duration)?

Marlboro 25s' = super-mini
Marlboro regular = 510/410
Marlboro 100s = pen-style
Marlboro carton = screwdriver/prodigy

An odd sort of chart but that's pretty much the story. The two piece models like the Vapor King have battery life like the pen-style.

 

[Anonomo]

Squirrl, I bought my first 510 kit from Dietsmokes. I had no problems and my kit arrived 2 days later. Fast service. The 510 worked so well that when I read that Electronicstix had their 510 kits on sale I bought another one.... ... My first e-cigg purchase was the dreaded smokingeverywhere kit so you're off to a good start. Good luck with your purchase!

 

[secretsquirrl]

Thanks usamare,
It was just something I was taking into consideration when I made my decision.

Thanks Anonomo,
Glad to hear you had a positive experience with dietsmokes.

I'm still kind of on the fence about juicing my own cartridges but I guess that's something I'll worry about later on down the road. I ordered a few filled carts along with the 410s(sorry, I think I made a mistake with the names of the items)

 

[Anonomo]

I still order prefilled carts, I'm still learning the ropes plus I want to make sure I like the taste of new flavor. Tonight was my second attempt at refilling spent carts, much better result than the first go round. There's definitely a learning curve to all of this but it's not to steep. Like most new things it just takes practice.

 

[secretsquirrl]

Anonomo,

I don't know much about refilling cartridges but it seems like more or less, back in the analog days, were people would roll their own cigarettes. In terms of cost, it was definitely cheaper. And in some cases, people found it rather exotic.

All-in-all, is that the same case with refilling the cartridges? Is there really such a significant amount of different in cost? I noted a lot of sites sell liquids but they are at most about 30ml, is that really a whole lot?

From the video WV recommended, I noticed that the woman(can't remember the username) basically used one liquid for the refill. How many drags is it possible to get out of a cartridge and how many more compared with the liquid? Just curious.

 

[wv2win]

You'll find that most new ecig users want to go for the real cig look at first but usually they change their mind as they get accustom to the ecig.

Yep, I agree. I started with a 901, although it was blue.

 

[wv2win]

@wv2win:

I guess everything has a balance to it. In terms of consistency the looks get compromised. The "Screwdriver" & the "Prodigy" look remarkably similar in terms of shape, but I don't know if I'm such a diehard smoker that I'd need something like that. I'm not saying it looks ugly, just that it looks a long ways from what a traditional analog would look like. Regardless, thanks for bringing it to my attention. I noticed a few people mentioning the "screwdriver" and was kind of lost in the terminology. It sounded as it it was a modded e-cigarette.

At this point in time, I'm leaning more towards the M510 model, and perhaps sometime down the road I may get another model to experiment with.

The 510 is a good choice.

 

[wv2win]

Thats weird... The Vapor King cant stay in stock for more than 5 minutes. I see more and more people reporting that this e-cig (that closely resembles an analog) to be very reliable? As well as my own personal experience with it.





Sorry WV to keep picking on you, but do you see what I mean? Where did the OP ask about auto switches????? (so who's injecting thier own opinion, while disregarding the question?)



Again, the plethora of VK users do NOT find this disappointing, we find it par for the course with 2piece e-cigs, and WELL worth it for the Vapor King. I am dripping all kinds of juice into mine and loving it. They may not last as long, but then again, Im not worring about an atty busting on me while Im in my car

My best,
-VP

First, I never bashed the VK and unlike you would not bash something I know nothing about.

Second, I made a comparison of using liquid vs carts, nothing more and nothing about the VK. How does that get so twisted in your head?

Third, the two widely used PV's are auto switched and manuals. That is basic and the OP is interested in a 510. Common sense to point that out.

Fourth, in many of your posts you bring up being pulled over and arrested by the police and you are the only one that brings that up that I have seen. Are you an ex-con? Or do you have a phobia about authority? I showed my Screwdriver to a couple of cops at the Subway and they thought it was very cool and wanted to know where they could get one!

For once could you just post what you like without attacking others??? Or is that just beyond your maturity level?

 

[Vapor Pete]

... and unlike you would not bash something I know nothing about.

Where have I bashed something I know nothing about? How 'bout this, I know nothing about geothermal radiation, so: Geothermal radiation is stupid and doesnt exist, its rediculous. Thats bashing something I know nothing about. If your referring to my counterpoints to your incesant talk of mods etc. as bashing such devices, Im sorry. I've never said they dont work, I've never said you are wrong in your opinion of their performance or ability to function as a viable e-cig. Its not bashing.

Second, I made a comparison of using liquid vs carts, nothing more and nothing about the VK. How does that get so twisted in your head?

Sorry, thought you were referring to disposable carts. If you take that, and read what I wrote, it shouldnt be taken as being twisted in my head. My bad.

Third, the two widely used PV's are auto switched and manuals. That is basic and the OP is interested in a 510. Common sense to point that out.

I've re-read the OP's original question several times, and I cannot find where he askes anything about a 510? He just lists some factors he's looking for in an e-cig. It was you who brought up the 510 I think? I also pointed out that products like the VK are gaining in popularity... something you fail to mention (and that is basic), or fail to believe, Im not sure.

... you bring up being pulled over and arrested by the police

Never brought up being arrested... pulled over, yes. Commen sense dictates that if a Police Officer were to see someone with the likes of a Screwdriver up to their mouth, there is a likelyhood that person may get questioned by an Officer. If your vaping it in your car, getting pulled over (as I've said) would be the result.

and you are the only one that brings that up that I have seen.

And aside from you, the ones who've commented on that point have agreed to its validity. Or admitted they hadnt thought of it, still validating the point.

Are you an ex-con?

If you took 2 minutes to look at my profile, as I've done for yours, you'd see I am not an ex-con, quite the opposite.

Or do you have a phobia about authority?

Refer to the above reply, and then I will add that I've spent the last 14 years in or around "authority" as well has having family members in some of the highest Town and County authority positions. Its in my blood. I cannot help but think from that mindset sometimes.

I showed my Screwdriver to a couple of cops at the Subway and they thought it was very cool and wanted to know where they could get one!

Thats great! Glad it worked out for you! But its an irrelevant counter to my statement. The context in which you showed them was not after they saw you puffing on it from across the subway, and approached you. And if they did, it was because you had something that looked unfamilliar, and clearly (to them) was not a cigarette, cigar, or pipe, and could be illegal. Which would completely back up my statement.

For once could you just post what you like without attacking others???

I am not attacking anyone, and as I've said to you many times, its only when I see the same people, posting the same rethoric, dispite the questions, that I call them to the floor. Again, if you paruzed through any of my posts, other than the banter between you and I, you would find alot of stuff other than my counterpoints to you. I have many things to offer this forum. Not my fault you fail to find it.

Or is that just beyond your maturity level?

Wow, WV. Taking a dig at my matuity level. Not very christian like insinuating I lack maturity, I mean, isnt that "making fun" of me, or mocking me?... par for the course with most x-tians I guess.

I find it amusing, Sir, that in all of this, you have failed to comment on my posts where I kind of... extended the olive branch, as they say. And just in this thread, I have defended you and given you due respect for your knowledge of the e-cigs you speak of, and fully backed you when you are right about something (post #17 in this thread). Yet you do nothing of the sort in return, never admitting that I may have a valid point, especially when the valid point is calling you out. And most alarming, never recognizing my accolades (allbeit subtle) to you when I give them.

Perhaps that is beyond your own maturity level.
As always...
My best,
-VP

 

[Seewhy1]

Getting back to earlier posts, has anybody heard of blucigs?

 

[Vapor Pete]

Getting back to earlier posts, has anybody heard of blucigs?

I have not, and if you back track through the thread, you will see some who have. Thats the extent of it though.
My best,
-VP

 

[Tallgirl1974]

Thanks for the welcome.

I noticed there hasn't been any reviews on "blucigs.com", a company that I was considering. But thank you for the suggestions as I'll look into them as well. I did notice that there's a link to suppliers on the front page of the forums but some either had no reviews or no input from members.

I seem to vaguely remember a supplier out in Reno, Nevada with an interesting name. Their cigarettes looked remarkably like the real thing, even in length. But they've either gone out of business or renamed themselves. I suppose more research is required. Thanks for your suggestions + explanation. I'll keep looking and when I finally make my decision, I'll go ahead and share a review.

They claim 5 carts equal 75 cigarettes- at least they are being more honest than most sellers. lol
If you use them let us know with a review- it helps the newbies!

 

[wv2win]

VP, when I first responded to the OP's question I directed him to Spikey's video and the poll of members favorite PV's. It's not my fault that the poll reveals that 60% like the manual switch PV's. I never mentioned Screwdriver or mods. Only in my follow-up when he mentioned how consistency was important did I recommend he "check-out" the SD type PV's because of their long battery life and thus consistency. Further along in the thread the OP said he was looking at the 510 which is a manual switch PV that looks similar to an analog. I responded that I thought that was a good choice.

I never mentioned your name or that your advice might be suspect or that the VK was not a good PV. If I had thought of it, I would have mentioned that the VK gets good reveiws from what I have seen on the forum. And I am not wrong in seeing many posts complaining that the very small (84mm, I believe) PV's such as the SE have gotten many poor reviews.

If you had posted that you liked the VK and why it was good from your perspective and left me out of it, we would not be having this disagreement. I did not see your post #17 until you pointed it out and sorry I over looked it.

How about we just call a truce? You like the VK and I agree that it has a good following on the forum. With the Screwdriver, Dura-C, 510 and now the Prodigy, I would think you would agree that manual switch PV's are well liked by many members and are becoming a larger part of the PV market. If we just respect each other's opinion and experience and not mentioned each other when we provide some advice, we should get along.

Agreed?

 

[Vapor Pete]

How about we just call a truce? You like the VK and I agree that it has a good following on the forum. With the Screwdriver, Dura-C, 510 and now the Prodigy, I would think you would agree that manual switch PV's are well liked by many members and are becoming a larger part of the PV market. If we just respect each other's opinion and experience and not mentioned each other when we provide some advice, we should get along.

Agreed?

WV... in all honesty, I would like nothing more. Thank you. Feels good now that we're both eating olives! I had mentioned to you in another post that despite our differences, perceived or real, I always thought we had more in common than not. Im glad you've offered the truce, I accept. Perhaps between the two of us, we can direct all the new users to the best vaping experience they can handle?!
Now, just dont piss me off........... KIDDDDDDIINNGGGG!!!
My best,
-VP

 

[Anonomo]

Anonomo,
All-in-all, is that the same case with refilling the cartridges? Is there really such a significant amount of different in cost? I noted a lot of sites sell liquids but they are at most about 30ml, is that really a whole lot?

A pack of 5 prefilled carts is going to cost approx. 7-$10 once you include the shipping/handling charges. The more you buy at one time reduces the unit shipping cost. Not cost effective to buy 1 or 2 packs of prefilled carts and nothing else from a vendor. I usually get one day of vaping on average out of a prefilled cart. My 510 carts hold around 10-12 drops. I read on this forum that a ml of juice is approx 15-20 drops. Definitely more cost effective to buy liquid and refill yourself. I've just started cutting my juice with VG(by 1/4 or less) to extend it and cut the nic content a little. A lot of people buy hi strenth liquid then cut 1/2, doubling the amount of liquid but halving the nic strength. You are also cutting the flavor, too, which is why my limit is 1/4.

From the video WV recommended, I noticed that the woman(can't remember the username) basically used one liquid for the refill. How many drags is it possible to get out of a cartridge and how many more compared with the liquid? Just curious.

I'm not sure how many draws I get per cart, never tried counting. But I'm a light smoker, so a cart will typically last all day. Some people drip liquid directly on the atomizer, two or three drops. I'm not sure how many draws you get "dripping", from videos I've watched its quite a few.

 

[wv2win]

WV... in all honesty, I would like nothing more. Thank you. Feels good now that we're both eating olives! I had mentioned to you in another post that despite our differences, perceived or real, I always thought we had more in common than not. Im glad you've offered the truce, I accept. Perhaps between the two of us, we can direct all the new users to the best vaping experience they can handle?!
Now, just dont piss me off........... KIDDDDDDIINNGGGG!!!
My best,
-VP

Good, I feel better, also! I have a feeling that you will at some point try one of the PV's that I like. If you do, let me know what you think, either pro or con.

wv