guy at work bought a "mall" ecig

[nanovapr]

ad356, I have a friend that runs very much along those lines. He has serious health issues, and as a co-worker has asked me about vaping for some time. I volunteered to get him set up with a decent setup (Lavatube, 5 cartos, 2 batterys/charger/30 ml of juice for my cost. He agreed, I ordered stuff. A week later he comes by proudly displaying me his $5.99 mini, and says that "each cartridge of this lasts as long as a carton. Does yours?". I was mildly peeved, and the first thing I said was that I hope he didn't get signed up for his "monthly allowance" of their proprietary carts.

A week later, he is mad, saying that they hit his credit card for $99, for a few boxes of carts. He was able to eventually get it all returned. He loves the LT, and has spent a month smoke-free.

There's a lot of things to the smoking addiction (seems like I am saying this a lot here, lately), the physical addiction to nic/chemicals, the ritual, the taste, the visible vapor. Different parts of this have different holds on different people. While we all know that the minis are short-lived and expensive, when you are new, you are easily self-conscious about vaping, and using a mini doesn't make you stand out as much.

Once I got a few months in, looking like I was pretending to smoke was the last thing I wanted to do.

Stick by your friend ad356, he needs help. Yes he made a poor first choice, but the best device is one that lets us quit smoking. There are certainly better devices (there usually always is), but once you stop smoking a while, you can afford any device that you want.

 

[WCSR]

Not the first time Ive seen this here..... and Im still a noob lol.

Google smokekingcigs and prepare your Rage Face.

Dude... I just sent them a message telling them they're f'ing insane gouging people with those prices. $40 for a 10ml bottle of liquid? $200 for a Ego starter kit? Holy s***...

 

[jwtaylor27]

what a waste of money, $200. he could have had a really good unit like a provari or a buzzpro, instead he chooses to waste his money at a mall and buy something that probably isnt equal to a cheap joye 510 that he could have had for $40. i havent seen him use it yet (his grandmother died recently), but i was talking to his girlfriend that also works with me(they both work where i work). she has wanted him to quit smoking for some time, i told her that an ecig is the right way...... but dont be surprised with that mall thing that he will stay off of cigarettes. i guess they only sell these prefilled "carts", we all know they are cheap, inferior cartomizers. i dont know what these malls are selling i never bothered to check one out, but from what i heard about them here is that they suck. i guess this guy wants to continue to look "cool" in front of his friends and wants something that looks like a cigarette. the sooner he realizes that he should seperate himself from the smokers and not look like them the better off he will be. i love going outside with my provari and looking unique and different from all of the people that are filling their bodies with disease causing toxins. im glad he decided he bought an ecig and decided to buy SOMETING; but i wish i knew why he decided to buy that mall crap. he sees me vape everyday; i would have gladly pointed him in the right direction with a quality product for a reasonable price; he wasted $200 on a peice of dung product. he will find that the less then 280 MAH battery and cheap atomizer is not going to work for him and hopefully he will ask me before returning to the stinkies. i just wish i could have saved him some money OR got him a really screaming product for the same amount of money.

the biggest problem i see is that people insist on buying something that still looks like a cigarette. i guess the provari is just too big of a unit for a newbee; personally i think its a rockin' product and a good value when you consider just how long something that is built so well will last. the provari seems to be built to last the long haul.

he thinks that something like a provari looks big and akward, the reason it is big is so it can accomdaite a much better battery. personally i love the fact that it is big, its much easier to no loose it.

what is it that they sell in mall stands anyways. is it some variation of a joye 510, or is it some garbage like njoy; blu; or green?

my first ecig was an njoy and it was junk. people that want to get into vaping should ask experienced vapers before they spend their money. learn from the people that already made the mistakes.

Judging by your attitude in this post, if I knew you I wouldn't come to you for advice nor would I listen if you offered any up. You seem to be way overly worried about this guy and his vaping habits.

 

[brummyjon]

wow... my first impressions of this forum where how warm and welcoming everyone is. Then I see a post that is judgmental to say the least.

i dont know what these malls are selling i never bothered to check one out, but from what i heard about them here is that they suck....

They suck enough to stop him smoking, and maybe add a few years onto his life? Yes, that is terrible. My first foray into e-cigarettes was a disposable that cost me £7.00 (roughly the same price as a pack of 20 here in the UK). Was that too expensive? I don't know, but what I do know is that they got me off cigarettes, and I bought maybe 5 or 6 of them before I bought a rechargeable. I hope that doesn't make me an idiot. Oh wait, I forgot, I don't care.

the sooner he realizes that he should seperate himself from the smokers and not look like them the better off he will be.....

Really? It's not enough to stop smoking, he needs to ditch his friends too?

the biggest problem i see is that people insist on buying something that still looks like a cigarette....

Yes, that's probably the world's greatest challenge at the moment. Good point.

he thinks that something like a provari looks big and akward (sic).....

Yes, and that is what would put me off buying one too. I don't rule out ever having one, because I don't know what I will want in the future. I have stopped smoking, and at the moment that's all I care about. I have replaced my packet of cigs for an Innokin AOI kit, as it fits in my pocket like my cigarettes, feels like my cigarettes, and so far has been the best possible choice for me. Yes, I know. What an idiot I am. I have just ordered an eGo Twist battery (cue MORE howls of derision...!) and I expect I will get myself a tank of sorts soon. I'm sure the Provari is great, but sometimes I just want to leave the house without a rucksack.

 

[WCSR]

I want to meet this guy you work with. He must be quite the man's man. After all, he does have TWO threads dedicated to him on ECF.

 

[DC2]

Okay, I guess I will have to jump in to defend the OP here...

If this guy was trying to convince the OP that his mini was better than the Provari for HIS needs, that's one thing.
But if he was really trying to tell the OP that the Provari is just inferior to his mini in general, no way.

Come on folks, we all know people like this...
Completely clueless, yet talking out their rear end like they are some sort of authority on the subject.

Yeah, sorry, but those kinds of people damn near give me an aneurysm.

 

[dgm76513]

I believe it all sums up to: people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
I started out on GreenSmoke. The kit cost me $170 plus $15 for a box of 4 cartos.
I don't think that makes me stupid. Stopping cigarettes is not stupid no matter the means or cost.
If the only way to quit cigarettes were to fill a blender with money and congac, then blend it and drink the mixture I would have done it. It shouldn't matter if the money is $100 bills or $1 bills, as the end result is the same.

I can understand being upset that someone is seemingly throwing money down the drain on something that is, in your opinion, overpriced and ineffective, and that may just show how much you care about the person. But, judging this person for doing something you don't approve of is egocentric. My advice is to shed your ego, and help your friend with the moral support he will need to help him cope with other aspects of cigarette withdrawl. Even if you hate what he is doing, support him fully. I'm confident that he will find the ECF community, along with a more effective means of vaping, on his own terms eventually and the two of you can kick back in your recliners, toke your provaris, and reminisce about the old days of cigalikes past.

I'm not judging you, sir. I am pointing out what I see as a flaw in your logic. I just hope you take the advice and use it to help strengthen your relationship with this person who seems to have been your friend for some time now.

 

[NancyR]

Dude... I just sent them a message telling them they're f'ing insane gouging people with those prices. $40 for a 10ml bottle of liquid? $200 for a Ego starter kit? Holy s***...

I put this one their fascebook page -- Nothing on your site about the nic mg's of the e-juice, and a $50 ego kit for $200?

 

[dgm76513]

I put this one their fascebook page -- Nothing on your site about the nic mg's of the e-juice, and a $50 ego kit for $200?

I hopped on and liked your post lol

 

[CommaHolly]

I really REALLY do not understand why cig sized units are so awful. I get that you like your 5 lb honkin Provari, and that's wonderful,,,,,,,,I decided on a Volt,,,,,,,and I can't wait for it to get here. I started on a cheapo kit that's probably not worth the plastic it's made with (fortunately I didn't spend 200 bucks),,,,,,,,but you know what? It got me intrigued,,,,,I started googling,,,,I found this site,,,,and I learned a TON. But what I do NOT like is the criticism that seems to stem from certain people that if you have anything that even MIGHT POSSIBLY look even CLOSE to a cigarette, you are an awful human being. Hey, that's your opinion, but I LIKE that size,,,,,,I like the shape, I like how it feels in my hand,,I don't need something that goes for 8 days without re-charging,,,,,,I just can't see myself lugging a provari or other mod around. It's just not me. And isn't the important thing that I quit smoking? Found this site for information and support? Found a product that works for MY needs??? That never would have happened without my 20 dollar walmart cheapo. So you know what? I'm grateful to it.

 

[CommaHolly]

OP, why don't you get the guy excited by inviting him here??????? It's just a matter of time til he finds something else he might consider "better"

"Hey, buddy, I'm glad you quit smoking and started vaping! Did you knwo there's a community of vapers that can really give tons of information and support? I'm there, why don't you come there too??"