Halo... best I have found

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aggiephoenix

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As a new vaper, I have tried several of my friends' e-cigs, and using a halo g6, which is small enough to put in a thin camera case in my pocket, is the best that I have found. The clearomizers are much easier to use, cleaner, smoother, with less draw strength than the cartomizers. They also seem to last longer for a new vaper like me, who sometimes lets them dry out completely while vaping. The fluids are smooth, with a slight kick at the back of the throat, and the Turkish is very much like a Camel Turkish Royal, perhaps even better... Having been seriously exercising for two months now, I finally switched to vaping exclusively. I found that I can exercise 3 times longer (4x calories burned, 3x distance run), and I recover significantly faster after exercising. It's amazing the difference when you can breathe more easily. I'm so happy to have found e-cigs.

I also tried three other brands, which I didn't like as much, and seemed a bit more expensive. I also really liked the e-go, but the fluids from Halo were better in my humble opinion.

I bought one of the big starter kits, which only cost $45, and several clearomizers (of course). I should have bought several colors, so I can easily keep track of what is in each. I am currently using a sharpie marker to know for sure.

So, two batteries is enough to last me all day and night. I was a marlboro ultralight 100s, 15-25 cigarette per day smoker before Halo. I got the kit and finished my regular cigarettes and pretty much stopped regular cigs immediately. I use the medium strength e-juices.

I only have one complaint about Halo. Yes, they have the best juices, and great equipment. I ordered a second starter kit in order to have 4 batteries and 2 chargers. Unfortunately, here in Texas, it is VERY hot right now. My starter kit and a few extra juices sat in a hot mail truck too long. It shorted one of the batteries dramatically and reduced the life of the other. I also have one clearomizer that seems defective, but functional, and all of the new juices I ordered have a slightly burned taste to them. So, I figure a great company like Halo will take care of it, right? Apparently not. The lady on the phone called me on Monday morning. She was VERY nice, professional, and empathetic. However, she said that the e-juices are made in large batches, so of course there can be nothing wrong with the e-juices. Excuse me ma'am... The heat shorted out one of my batteries. The e-juices have a bad flavor. I let them air out for a few days with the lids off, and it is better, but seriously, this must have been a blazing hot truck to short out a battery. She said I can mail the battery back for them to evaluate, but that is almost the price of a new battery, even if they mail me one for free. RIDICULOUS! This is a great way of making a happy new customer swap to a competitor brand. I was expecting that they would send me two new batteries and replacement fluids, or at least would send me a shipping label to send it back for free. Yes, I understand that costs the company money, but get real! If you want to save money, just send me a new battery. Good grief. Perhaps I will buy from e-go until the weather gets cooler. Forget sending that thing back. From looking at forums, I'm figuring out that other company parts will fit my Halo products. I'll throw away the defective battery and the worst one of the juices, use the weakened battery until it goes kaput, and strongly consider another company to do business with. It's too bad, because Halo products really are my favorite, but your customer service policies stink, even if your associates are nice. This is business, not a church social. :unsure:
 

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Ive been using the halo triton exclusively since I started vaping. Once I ordered a tank and it had a small scratch. They told me to send them a pic which I did and they replaced it. Now obviously w the battery that wouldn't help but I'm unsure what you expected them to do. As you stated its a business, not a church social. In a business they have to ensure your not just trying to get a free battery and the cost to ship bavk the battery would be a few dollars if that. Heck the g6 battery could prob b shipped w a few stamps. Now if it were a church social they'd give you a free battery without checking into the problem. Most likely it seems the problem is that usps shouldve shipped faster. And your burnt juice could be due to your maintenance and upkeep. I'm unsure how a shorted cig a like batt would burn your juice but I guess that's another argument all together. Fact is vaping is a labor of love so make the switch to another brand if that's what works for you but you'll never have a flawless experience from start to finish. And as a noob your goingto have hiccups that yyou'll later learn were your own fault. Trust me, I've been there. I've tried egos and ended up w leaking tanks and lower batt li fe than my triton. Halo is a superior product for its price range. I really am sorry you had this experience and my only hope is it doesn't push you back to analogs. I may be busting your chops a bit because I don't fully agree w your logic but the important thing to me truly is that you find something to keep vaping and stop smoking. Just don't expect perfection from all angles or you may hace a let down.
 

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Unfortunately, e cig vendors have to do the practice of having customers send gear back before sending out replacements. They need to verify that the hardware is actually broken and not user error.

It won't matter what vendor you use, they will pretty much have a similar policy. Most cigalike batteries are extremely disposable. In fact, I'm surprised you are just now experiencing an issue.

It is pointless to use only one vendor for everything. You can save money and hassle by shopping around. Not every product works exactly as it is supposed to. With 95% of the stuff being manufactured in China, this kind of stuff will happen.
 

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As a new vaper, I have tried several of my friends' e-cigs, and using a halo g6, which is small enough to put in a thin camera case in my pocket, is the best that I have found.
I really like the G6 case too.
Unfortunately, here in Texas, it is VERY hot right now. My starter kit and a few extra juices sat in a hot mail truck too long... all of the new juices I ordered have a slightly burned taste to them.
I've never heard of temperature damaging liquid. As a matter of fact, some people speed steeping time by heating the liquid indirectly (hot water bath, heated sonic agitator, etc.). It is possible the liquid is damaged, but that would not be my first suspicion.

Generally a burnt taste comes from the delivery device. Old cartos can develop a burnt taste from gunk or a dry fire.

Dry cartos will actually burn when fired which ruins them. It is important to fill a carto before firing it for the first time. Usually a carto will take 1 ml of liquid (20-25 drops). I drip and rotate until the carto appears to be full, and then thermometer shake it to whip the liquid deeper into the poly-fill. Repeat. Other people use the condom method (risky with auto batteries) or syringe method to fill.

The first part of this page is a good description: Baditude - Best Way to Prefill a Cartomizer

I would suggest not tossing your liquids. Many of my liquids have gotten better with age. If nothing else, they have trade value at a Houston Vape Meet.

Hanzo.
 

aggiephoenix

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dlacroixss and Jazzi Mike,

Thanks for the replies. As a newbie, I'm enjoying vaping, and all things considered, I really do like Halo's products. The lady was nice, and I get your points dlacroixss. Of course you're right.

I may try to pick up a few batteries from other vendors and see. I am guessing that the problem wasn't Halo's fault; it was in the shipping, and a result of a hot truck. I have to wonder what the burnt flavor has to do with the original batch, and the lack of complaints from others doesn't mean that the heat didn't do something to the juice. The response was a bit condescending, as nice as she was. And using new Halo G6 minitanks (clearomizers), waiting a few days for the flavors to settle, airing out the bottles and retrying, and using fully charged batteries, I doubt seriously that it was a maintenance/cleaning problem with my equipment.

That being said... hiccups? You intrigued me. How does this happen? Swallowing vapors? Accidentally drinking a little of the fluids? Don't get the fluid on the top of the knob when you fill, fill with it tipped slightly and let the juice flow down the side, right?
 

aggiephoenix

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Thanks Hanzo. Now I see why she said what she did. As an engineer, I would have been more understanding if she had said, fluids can take 140 degree hot truck temperatures without ill effects on flavors. Yes, if heat makes them better, then I don't know what is going on with the fluids, but they all taste funny/different than previous batches. I don't really like the case; it's too big for daily pocket carry, has a lot of wasted space, and doesn't offer many options for the mini-tanks. Maybe I'll just let them sit a while longer, or maybe something is wrong with the new mini-tanks. There are some minor defects in two of my new mini-tanks, which appear more cosmetic than functional issues. I don't really care about the cosmetic issues... but it does call their quality control into question.
 

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I suspect Halo might be experiencing some "growing pains" right now - for example, there have been several complaints on the Halo forum about shipments taking way too long. I hope they get the kinks worked out because they sell a good product and their juices in particular are some of the best around.

Anyway, a Halo G6 is what made me quit cigarettes; it's a nice little setup. If you like the G6 "mini-tank" clearomizers (which are sold elsewhere under the name Kanger T4 808D-1) consider trying the 808-threaded version of the Kanger E-smart clearo. It's just a hair wider than the G6 batteries but not enough to look out of place and it's a much better clearomizer, IMO.
 

aggiephoenix

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Battery Cost = $13 + shipping
UPS cost: $11 shipping

Yes, common sense. I automatically assumed shipment as a package for around $10. Duh! The batteries are light and can be mailed as a letter USPS for about 86 cents. Much better! Sure, I don't mind paying a dollar to return it. Hopefully, they stand behind their product and replace it. Maybe I should send back the defective mini-tanks as well!
 

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The G6 battery charger puts out 5VDC at 150mA and I believe this is OK for all or most 808 "stick" batteries. But there are some fatter 808-threaded batteries (e.g., Halo Triton, Kanger E-smart) that need to be charged at a lower voltage and higher current.

For my part, I ended up buying an E-smart 808 kit with a couple of extra clearomizers to supplement my G6. The parts are all compatible except for the chargers.
 

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I too started with Halo G6 gear, bought the starter kit with Tribeca cartos, two 78mm manual batts, ordered an extra 102mm manual, the gourmet liquid sampler, a 30ml of Tribeca, XL blank cartos, a bunch of mini tanks, etc. Way hot where I live too, the kits prefilled cartos showed up leaked all over the place (inside the plastic box only). NO BIG DEAL, as it turned out I don't like the cartos anyway... I prefer and use the mini tanks. Most of the mini tanks from my April order are still going strong, and 2-3 of them get used daily. So much for the short life others have written about them. I soon added three more 102mm batts, another charger, more mini tanks and started buying 30ml bottles of the liquids I liked the best. It's been building up my stock of mini tanks and liquid since. I lost a brand new 102mm batt after only one use. Cost me very little to send it back 1st Class ($1 and change) and they replaced it. They have the right to inspect it IMO before replacement. I've also received a couple of mini tanks that were trash right out of the package and would not fire. I didn't bother to even contact them about those... not worth the bother for either of us. So I have had a few problems while dealing with them, but IMO their customer service has been 5 star on the phone, via email and via PM's here every time. Their bogus shipping comfirmation I'll just leave at that. In use I only had one of their liquids I didn't care much for at first, but since I have gotten tired of some of them and will never buy those again. I started the DIY thing in early July so I use them less and less anyway. I was waiting for the Triton Twist to come out, but dove into the APV thing instead with 3 mechanical mods and a VV VW mod, all the gear for them and now have the stuff to start making my own coils for them. Love them, BUT, I still like and use my G6 batts/mini tanks and always will. They are great to take on my nightly walks, when out running errands and even just for a change from the mods around home. So while I have had a few ups and downs with Halo, I'd still give them a thumbs up for having great equipment and for the efforts they make in customer service. Got my neighbor to buy his first PV gear from them... he really likes them, and since he only wants something the size of the analogs w/auto batts and cartos they are all he will ever need. The hard head didn't do the research so didn't buy strong enough nic juice, but he's finally been smoke free for about 6 weeks now.
 

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I guess I don't understand. Why not send back a defective battery? A few stamps and now it's their problem. Just take action.

Halo is an excellent package, but far from the best vaping experience you can have. While they have very good juices, you can find better. Why not spread your wings and check out some of the other gear and juices? If I was having a problem with Halo, or any other vendor, I sure would. It sounds like you have limited experiences with just Halo, and I may be wrong about that, but there really are better batteries, better delivery devices and better juice. That's why it's called VapeQuest. One size does not fit all. On the other hand, if you're happy with Halo, then great, you found a winner for you, and that's what's most important. There is a forum on ECF that deals with Vendor Complaints:

Reviews of Suppliers - Negative

That is the correct forum for this type of post. I know of not a single vaper that been doing this for a while that doesn't have their share of stories, both positive and negative. And, of course, that's what you would expect, given the diversity and newness of the industry. We're still a long way from "standards" and "branding." Keep up your search, though, I think a bad vape is better than a good smoke, imho. Quitting smoking is the most important part of vaping, and I wish you nothing but good luck and success on your VapeQuest! Best to you!
 

aggiephoenix

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Spydro, yes, I had all sorts of leaks as well, but fortunately, I don't care much for the cartos either, and the leaks were mostly contained in the inner plastic case. I also had some sort of glue all over the bottom of the G6 case, which I don't particularly care for anyway.

Magic, thanks for the reply. I'll probably try out a few other brands' equipment, but I do like how nice the lady was, and a couple of stamps is much better than a UPS delivery as I had initially assumed.
 

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I like Halo G6 and Triton. One thing to remember hot temps can ruin any ejuice from any vendor. Halo does pack better than most but shipping problem are not any vendors problem so insurance is needed to cover shipping problems. I just ordered a couple things from Halo this am and I can't remember if shipping insurance was offered.

Volt and Halo are interchangeable for cartos and I have used the Triton clearos on volts XL batts just fine. Volt makes a XL battery similar to Triton, so these things can be used with each other. bnrk
 

aggiephoenix

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Perhaps this is what you meant by hiccups?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/337017-inhalation-technique-e-cigarette.html

I had no idea why sometimes I end up coughing. I have been learning to draw into my mouth and then inhale. Sometimes I still do a hard lung suck for 5-10 seconds, which doesn't feel good. I guess the Halo equipment tends to subconsciously teach you to do it right. However, it makes smoking a real cigarette quite a wild feeling, as doing a mouth suck for 8 seconds makes you choke when you try and inhale it! The key is to not smoke real cigs anymore... I am happy to be done with them.
 

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aggiephoenix - I could care less about the Halo case, it will never be used. FWIW, the problems you feel with Halo are very small comparded to what they can be in this game. Lately it's been Kanger for me... bought a bunch that was all being problematic at first. But that's just part of the game, part of the learning.
 
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