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Susan W.

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I'm in the same single person canoe. :( I have very few un-online friends that smoke or vape. The only one that does smoke and vape I buy all her equipment and juice. She does like Halo juice the best out of what I've given her. Only problem is she is hard on her equipment and breaks about 2 eGos a month so if she has to wait for me to order, she goes back to smoking. It's not all that fun for me. :laugh:

I wish I had friends who vaped.....*sadface*

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I'm in the same single person canoe. :( I have very few un-online friends that smoke or vape. The only one that does smoke and vape I buy all her equipment and juice. She does like Halo juice the best out of what I've given her. Only problem is she is hard on her equipment and breaks about 2 eGos a month so if she has to wait for me to order, she goes back to smoking. It's not all that fun for me. :laugh:

I have a friend that I graduated with he wants to quit but is unsure about vaping. I'm talking to him about it. And after the holidays he is gonna try all my juice. In the meantime, I told him about the ECF forum and the Halo subforum and website so he can check things out for himself. His funds are very limited and at least I can help him by buying him a kit and sharing some of my juice until he knows which flavors he likes and orders his own then. I have both kits so he can try both and decide which he likes better. But that is as far as I go. I will talk to a friend and help a friend but I will not carry that persons burden. If he chooses to continue vaping or go back to analogs that is on him and his decision. I did my part as a friend. Now if he doesn't have a card and needs me to make his online purchases, I will but he will give me the money to do that.

It sounds like your friend whom you care about is willing to quit analogs as long as you carry the burden on your shoulders. That isn't a friend that is a user. Your not responsible for her. If she can't accept your generosity and continue on her own vaping journey then it is not your fault. Don't let that be guilt you place on your shoulders. You can't carry her burdens no more than she can carry yours. Look at it like this: Would you treat her the way she treats you? Now ask yourself WHY you wouldn't? If she was serious and ready to quit analogs, she would accept your gift and buy her own juice. Even if she paid you to buy it online. It wouldn't be your fault she had to smoke an analog she has other options.

I don't want to sound mean but I've spent and wasted alot of years trying to help people. One thing I learned is you can't carry anyone. I can be there for them, be a shoulder for them, they can even lean on me, I'll be there, I'll give it 200%, hold there hand and walk with them, even give help financially if I can. But if they are not trying then I'm just wasting my time, they should want it more than I want it for them.

Okay sorry for the rant........stepping off my soapbox now.
 

CafeDigitalDiva

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That isn't a friend that is a user.

I don't want to sound mean but I've spent and wasted alot of years trying to help people. One thing I learned is you can't carry anyone. I can be there for them, be a shoulder for them, they can even lean on me, I'll be there, I'll give it 200%, hold there hand and walk with them, even give help financially if I can. But if they are not trying then I'm just wasting my time, they should want it more than I want it for them.

Okay sorry for the rant........stepping off my soapbox now.

That was superb Evie! I have a friend that I've known since 10th grade. And I just now discovered that we don't have not one damn thing in common, and that she has basically been 'using' me for sympathy and to validate all of her very bad decisions in life! I must admit, it hurt like hell when I finally saw the truth, and I was really hurt and :mad:!

It's hard to take a good long look at something or someONE and say, "this just isn't working for me" This so called 'friend' has only been a master manipulator and emotional drain on my already depleted resources.

the last straw was when I started vaping. I didn't out and out tell her because I knew how small minded and opinionated she could be about things she knows nothing about. Well, needless to say she ranted and raved about it being bad and no better than smoking, etc, etc, ad nauseam. Vaping has literally saved my life, and has made me the happiest I've been in YEARS! To just diss it like that really hurt my feelings. I started talking less and less to her after that. Now we barely talk at all, and it's been a whole lot better.


Thank you for your very wise words. I know it was meant for Susan W., but I just had to share ...:) Feel free to rant whenever you want!
 

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I have a friend that I graduated with he wants to quit but is unsure about vaping. I'm talking to him about it. And after the holidays he is gonna try all my juice. In the meantime, I told him about the ECF forum and the Halo subforum and website so he can check things out for himself. His funds are very limited and at least I can help him by buying him a kit and sharing some of my juice until he knows which flavors he likes and orders his own then. I have both kits so he can try both and decide which he likes better. But that is as far as I go. I will talk to a friend and help a friend but I will not carry that persons burden. If he chooses to continue vaping or go back to analogs that is on him and his decision. I did my part as a friend. Now if he doesn't have a card and needs me to make his online purchases, I will but he will give me the money to do that.

It sounds like your friend whom you care about is willing to quit analogs as long as you carry the burden on your shoulders. That isn't a friend that is a user. Your not responsible for her. If she can't accept your generosity and continue on her own vaping journey then it is not your fault. Don't let that be guilt you place on your shoulders. You can't carry her burdens no more than she can carry yours. Look at it like this: Would you treat her the way she treats you? Now ask yourself WHY you wouldn't? If she was serious and ready to quit analogs, she would accept your gift and buy her own juice. Even if she paid you to buy it online. It wouldn't be your fault she had to smoke an analog she has other options.

I don't want to sound mean but I've spent and wasted alot of years trying to help people. One thing I learned is you can't carry anyone. I can be there for them, be a shoulder for them, they can even lean on me, I'll be there, I'll give it 200%, hold there hand and walk with them, even give help financially if I can. But if they are not trying then I'm just wasting my time, they should want it more than I want it for them.

Okay sorry for the rant........stepping off my soapbox now.

Wow...... very dear to my own beliefs in dealings with others. I quit enabling people years ago. If ya can't fend for yourself then why are we still talking... sometimes it is tough to do, but people are cold. They will suck you dry if you let them and then ..... at you when it's all dried up.

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Susan W.

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You're absolutely right. She's been my BFF since the 3rd grade an unfortunately our relationship has got down to me being there for her when she needs me but usually doesn't go the other way unless it's convenient to her. Really the only reason she started vaping is because she got a new car and doesn't want to start smoking in it. I stopped doing lots of social things with her because of her ways.

I have a friend that I graduated with he wants to quit but is unsure about vaping. I'm talking to him about it. And after the holidays he is gonna try all my juice. In the meantime, I told him about the ECF forum and the Halo subforum and website so he can check things out for himself. His funds are very limited and at least I can help him by buying him a kit and sharing some of my juice until he knows which flavors he likes and orders his own then. I have both kits so he can try both and decide which he likes better. But that is as far as I go. I will talk to a friend and help a friend but I will not carry that persons burden. If he chooses to continue vaping or go back to analogs that is on him and his decision. I did my part as a friend. Now if he doesn't have a card and needs me to make his online purchases, I will but he will give me the money to do that.

It sounds like your friend whom you care about is willing to quit analogs as long as you carry the burden on your shoulders. That isn't a friend that is a user. Your not responsible for her. If she can't accept your generosity and continue on her own vaping journey then it is not your fault. Don't let that be guilt you place on your shoulders. You can't carry her burdens no more than she can carry yours. Look at it like this: Would you treat her the way she treats you? Now ask yourself WHY you wouldn't? If she was serious and ready to quit analogs, she would accept your gift and buy her own juice. Even if she paid you to buy it online. It wouldn't be your fault she had to smoke an analog she has other options.

I don't want to sound mean but I've spent and wasted alot of years trying to help people. One thing I learned is you can't carry anyone. I can be there for them, be a shoulder for them, they can even lean on me, I'll be there, I'll give it 200%, hold there hand and walk with them, even give help financially if I can. But if they are not trying then I'm just wasting my time, they should want it more than I want it for them.

Okay sorry for the rant........stepping off my soapbox now.
 

Susan W.

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Thanks for sharing. I really need to hear this and what Evie said too. Puts things into perspective.

That was superb Evie! I have a friend that I've known since 10th grade. And I just now discovered that we don't have not one damn thing in common, and that she has basically been 'using' me for sympathy and to validate all of her very bad decisions in life! I must admit, it hurt like hell when I finally saw the truth, and I was really hurt and :mad:!

It's hard to take a good long look at something or someONE and say, "this just isn't working for me" This so called 'friend' has only been a master manipulator and emotional drain on my already depleted resources.

the last straw was when I started vaping. I didn't out and out tell her because I knew how small minded and opinionated she could be about things she knows nothing about. Well, needless to say she ranted and raved about it being bad and no better than smoking, etc, etc, ad nauseam. Vaping has literally saved my life, and has made me the happiest I've been in YEARS! To just diss it like that really hurt my feelings. I started talking less and less to her after that. Now we barely talk at all, and it's been a whole lot better.


Thank you for your very wise words. I know it was meant for Susan W., but I just had to share ...:) Feel free to rant whenever you want!
 

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You're absolutely right. She's been my BFF since the 3rd grade an unfortunately our relationship has got down to me being there for her when she needs me but usually doesn't go the other way unless it's convenient to her. Really the only reason she started vaping is because she got a new car and doesn't want to start smoking in it. I stopped doing lots of social things with her because of her ways.

I cringe when I read this because I feel for you, I really do. It hurt to face the reality that "I" wasn't just a phenomenal person to be around. That there were motives. Drawing a line and placing boundaries builds character. Also healthier for both parties.

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You're absolutely right. She's been my BFF since the 3rd grade an unfortunately our relationship has got down to me being there for her when she needs me but usually doesn't go the other way unless it's convenient to her. Really the only reason she started vaping is because she got a new car and doesn't want to start smoking in it. I stopped doing lots of social things with her because of her ways.

I'm glad it helped I was worried I was over stepping somewhat but I hope things work out with your friend but if they don't that is her choice. You have to set the boundries and I'm a good listener if you ever need to talk more you can PM me anytime.

If everyone would just stop and notice that people who always use others and have others do everything for them. We actually are the ones who create that and hurt them in the long run. If people wouldn't always do for them, they could have been self reliant and a better person long before now. Sometimes a person has to hit bottom and want something different in their life before they can be helped up.
 

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...We actually are the ones who create that and hurt them in the long run. If people wouldn't always do for them, they could have been self reliant and a better person long before now. Sometimes a person has to hit bottom and want something different in their life before they can be helped up.
So true .
 

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Wow, this thread got so deep. I guess to balance out the crazy from the contest.

It's like helping a drowning person. You do all you can, but when they start pulling you down as well, it's time to let go.






(Evie, we so want an update after your friend tastes all your juices.)





And we're back!!!
 

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Sometimes a person has to hit bottom and want something different in their life before they can be helped up.

I have friends and family like this, and it can be such a difficult thing to watch someone you care about in such a bad situation... But sometimes you just have to leave it up to them. Either for what Evie says above, or because they'll be a negative force in your life.
 

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There's something we all missed, that marks a great company:

Halo is rarely ever out of stock.

It might seem obvious, but to those who've ordered from other sites. Cheers!

Absolutely agree. Stuff is always in stock. And everything I've ordered has shipped that day, or the next day.

Here's something I don't like about Halo. The juices disappear or evaporate. I have the same problem with my tequila. ;)
 

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I don't want to sound mean but I've spent and wasted alot of years trying to help people. One thing I learned is you can't carry anyone. I can be there for them, be a shoulder for them, they can even lean on me, I'll be there, I'll give it 200%, hold there hand and walk with them, even give help financially if I can. But if they are not trying then I'm just wasting my time, they should want it more than I want it for them.

OW! my inner indomitable spirit!
 
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