Hangsen Crentia from FastTech.com

[Calivapr123]

After what I initially thought was a bad Dekang e-liquid order from fasttech.com, the liquids I ordered eventually steeped to a very good vape that I now like to order more of. I would like to try the Hangsen brand, but fasttech has two different brands: the regular Hangsen and the Hangsen "Crentia" brand. The Crentia is about double the price of the regular Hangsen, at about $4 for a 10ml bottle, shipping included. Does anyone have any experience to share on the difference between the two?

 

[BennyAdeline]

I haven't heard of them before. I would, however, highly recommend going with a USA based juice company. Some US companies have great transperancy on the ingridients, where the chinese companies may be using harmful additives. The only overseas company I vape is a great and trustworthy brand from the Phillipines.

 

[Calivapr123]

... The only overseas company I vape is a great and trustworthy brand from the Phillipines.

Thanks for the response and its funny that you mention the Philippines. I recently had a friend who brought me 2 bottles of RY4 from a recent trip there. At about the same time, my first order from FastTech.com arrived, which included several bottles of Dekang Liquids. The FastTech website states that their Dekang liquids are from an official Dekang liquid supplier in China.




The bottles look very different from each other, as you can see from the pic above. The Dekang that my friend brought from the Philippines (left) has more elaborate hologram type stickers and a special bottle type I've never seen before, even the dripper inside is different and fits nicely into my tanks; while the ones from FastTech (right) are very simply labeled in common 10ml plastic dripper bottles. All bottles, including the ones from the Philippines didn't taste good at all. I left them alone for almost a month and went back to them - they all tasted great after they had steeped. Somehow though, the bottles from the Philippines tasted far better, a truly awesome RY4 taste. Between buying online and tasting at the local shops, I've tried many RY4, if this is the "real" Dekang RY4 that started it all, I can see why. It's the best Ry4 I've had. Now I have to find someone to get me more, a lot more of that ... anyone going to the Philippines? lol

 

[Vaptor]

I haven't heard of them before. I would, however, highly recommend going with a USA based juice company. Some US companies have great transperancy on the ingridients, where the chinese companies may be using harmful additives.

Really? Got some more details on that? What makes you think that USA juice maker isn't going to use harmful additives just to save few Bucks? All you have to do is to look at history on how many people died using gov. approved drugs etc. There is a good chance that the so called USA juices you so proudly vape are just plain relabeled China juices. I'm sick of people posting comments like this without any concrete evidence. Get the facts, than post with links to prove them.

 

[bebop.rocksteady]

All you have to do is to look at history on how many people died using gov. approved drugs etc. There is a good chance that the so called USA juices you so proudly vape are just plain relabeled China juices.

The US government doesn't regulate the manufacture and sale of US made e-liquid. So you're misguided on this point at best. And surely misinformed. I can tell you from being in the industry that it costs just as much if not more to order your juice from China and relabel it as it would cost to manufacture your own. It is much safer to buy US. I don't have links but I don't feel safe vaping Chinese liquid. Some of the ingredients I've found are... unsavory. I will continue to PROUDLY vape my US made eliquid.

 

[Vaptor]

The US government doesn't regulate the manufacture and sale of US made e-liquid. So you're misguided on this point at best.

What I said was "All you have to do is to look at history on how many people died using gov. approved drugs etc." I don't see e-liquid mentioned in there. Anyway, go with what ever makes you happy but please do try to refrain from wild unfounded theories when posting. On the other hand if you have some evidence, let everyone know. Vaping community will thank you. We're all in this together.

 

[wrath186]

Maybe a better question to ask is are there any known manufacturers either domestic or imported that we should automatically avoid?

I for one am hooked on RY4, it's my everyday vape at this point, but out of everything I've read and the few I've tried Hangsen is my favorite juice. I too am leary of injesting products from China, but after reading about Hangsen here I was confident enough to purchase some, from a reliable vendor, and vape it.

 

[sg888]

left sided ones are real dekangs.. the other 2 with with plastic are not..

 

[Barbara21]

So what the OP is implying is that the Dekang sold by FastTech is not *real* Dekang??

Interesting.

 

[tru2dgame]

Here are some thoughts to ponder on. The holographic stickers are not dissimilar from what US corporations like Microsoft do to certify authenticity. What makes you think that the same would not hold true from a Chinese vendor that probably is better versed in a the US economic system than most Americans. Didn't you read that China basically leeched 50 years of technology from us without the expense of research and development in scientifically standard environment? They know the parts of our system that works, and it is proving to be working VERY well in their setup. With that said, however, I would NOT be surprised if both were actually legit, with one bought in smaller factory packaging sizes contained in large boxes and one bought in bulk multi-gallon size drums and then bottled to "standards" type labeling. There are MANY ways to get a legitimate product to market without using the same packaging. The old saying is "Don't judge a book by its cover."

Then again, one could be fake and have lead like some of the Chinese toys and cereals and baby formula and paint and toothpaste and electronics, etc etc that have killed thousands around the world...and that is just the past 5 years. The moral of the story is the same one that led me to ditch vendor juice and DIY. I know that I use all USP grade and US manufactured food grade products.
EDIT:

Yes I do realize that electronic cigs are a Chinese invention and that their Dekang and Hangsen factories are basically factory sized clean rooms (Thank God). I am thankful that they put together an industry that is evolving worldwide into the 21st century's way of getting nicotine. I am thankful that we did the same thing that they did to us and took apart their stuff and made it "our own." Thank you China. There I said it.

 

[Calivapr123]

So what the OP is implying is that the Dekang sold by FastTech is not *real* Dekang??

Interesting.

To imply that Dekang sold by FastTech is not the real thing was not my intent at all. Just that the bottles were different, and that somehow, at the time of writing that post, I found the hologramed bottles from the Philippines on the left much better.

Very recently I had vaped the FastTech Dekang bottles again, and they in fact had steeped more into a delicious vape indeed. At this point, it seems that they took longer to steep, and that is all. Perhaps they were manufactured at a later date, and the fact that the bottles with the holograms on it were imported to Philippines, may suggest that the hologram bottles were manufactured earlier than my order from FastTech, which was coming directly from China. Additionally, I noted that FastTech specifically claims that their Dekang juice is ordered directly from a Dekang factory authorized supplier, which at this point, I believe. Hope this clears things up

 

[MotoBlue]

I cannot comment on Dekang but Hangseng manufacture in China, USA and EU and Hangseng claim they use local materials and modify their products for local tastes. So it Dekang are similar it wouldn't be a surprise to find juice in the Philippines differing from juice in china.

 

[retired1]

Considering China doesn't have a very good track record with other food products (who remembers the tainted dog food and treats from China?), I'm not sure I'd be using any product that's ingested, inhaled or otherwise put into my body that came from China. Hardware? Sure. Juice? No. Never.

 

[ebhomepc]

Fasttech dekang is the real deal they buy in bulk large bottles for cheaper and rebottle them loads of vendors do the same and loads of usa vendors sell rebranded hangsen and dekang.

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[TTK]

The bottles on the left are Dekang Gold or Silver label. The ones on the right are standard Dekang.

 

[TTK]

Considering China doesn't have a very good track record with other food products (who remembers the tainted dog food and treats from China?), I'm not sure I'd be using any product that's ingested, inhaled or otherwise put into my body that came from China. Hardware? Sure. Juice? No. Never.

Do you vape juice with nicotine?

 

[retired1]

Do you vape juice with nicotine?

And what does that have to do with China's dismal track record when it comes to food products? Have something concrete to add? Do so.

 

[terry w]

It is purely about having a choice.

I have used hangsen, and dekang from china... Was it genuine who knows, for sure ?

I have tried many differernt uk vendors, is it safe / who knows ?

The truth is this, we all enjoy vaping and where we source our liquid from will vary greatly. so in conclusion, it just goes down to who you trust.

After all we cannot all have our own chemist to hand, or the world would be perfect (from a vapours point of view)

VAPE HARD VAPE STRONG AND ENJOY.

T

 

[TTK]

And what does that have to do with China's dismal track record when it comes to food products? Have something concrete to add? Do so.

I guess you got the point of my question and it upset you. Just that you said you wouldn't vape Chinese eliquid. If you vape eliquid with nicotine, you most probably vape a Chinese product. All eliquids from a country, any country, cannot be classified as the same or equal. The "Chinese scare" tells more about the poster than it does about the eliquid. If you have something specific to share about Chinese made eliquid, please do.

And BTW, 1 in 6 Americans Gets Food Poisoning Every Year according to CDC

 

[Calivapr123]

The bottles on the left are Dekang Gold or Silver label. The ones on the right are standard Dekang.

I did a search, and it looks like that is right, thank you! I simply searched the terms "Dekang Gold Label" and "Dekang Silver Label" and is seems the one I have pictured in the earlier post is in fact the Silver Label Dekang (left), and a regular Dekang (right), while the Gold Label looks like this: