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Hello @Tigeercat, freebase Nicotine and PG are known to make liquids harsher.
May I also ask what flavor it is please?
May I also ask what flavor it is please?
Just had a little look into AP liquid, is it a cool method peppermint kind of kick to it?
And are you using freebase Nicotine or Nicotine salts?
One of the best ideas I've heard around, is to use both. As the freebase gives throat hit and harshness, and the salt gives you a smooth more instant Nic fix.
And are you using freebase Nicotine or Nicotine salts?
One of the best ideas I've heard around, is to use both. As the freebase gives throat hit and harshness, and the salt gives you a smooth more instant Nic fix.
Im not sure what the nic is, would assume freebase as it came already mixed.
There's no peppermint no coolness to them
maybe I just won't vape those juices and get something else ;p
There's no peppermint no coolness to them
maybe I just won't vape those juices and get something else ;p
Hi. Since making my own for the last few years I have found that many flavours differ in regards to throat hit. Citrus for example gives a much stronger hit than berry. Licorice gives a good hit also. For this reason, I love a good throat hit but not over the top, just cig style, I actually vary my nocotine strength. Nic gives a throat hit as we all know, but the same strength with all concentrates that hit can vary a bit. So with my Citrus and Licorice I mix at 3% nic. But my berry and bakery I go to 4% and up to on the odd occasion 5%. Its logical that a person could buy several juices pre made at the same nic level and yet think one had less nic in it than the other whereas they actually have exactly the same amount. The pg/vg ratio does have some effect but nowhere near the difference that is seen or felt with different concentrates.
I just bought a spearmint flavor vape juice and it is pretty nice but kinda scratchy around the edges. My fix for this is to remodel it. Im planning on adding some vanilla to it, and maybe even....gods forbid....a tiny taste of tobacco. The intent is to make it taste like my favorite snus, Camel frost. But back to OP, some flavors can be a bit harsh and scratchy. You can either not use them or go mad scientist on em like im getting ready to. That seems like much more fun.
I have also found the type of flavouring(s) can contribute to that harshness perception. There is an extensive list of different flavouring reviews on Reddit where many give their opinion on throat hit of a particular flavour. Wouldn’t call it conclusive for it is very subjective, but does demonstrate that flavour can contribute to harshness. Unfortunately, with commercial juice we have no idea what flavourings have been used.
You can try a lower wattage build and turn down your power. I would not entertain Nic Salts at high(ish) power levels. Nic Salts are to be at low wattage.
You can try a lower wattage build and turn down your power. I would not entertain Nic Salts at high(ish) power levels. Nic Salts are to be at low wattage.
Nic salts work at any wattage. I would suggest using the alien piss with a lower power build. If you like citrus notes try a citrus bakery or citrus cream juice instead. Cloud Company Sky is an awesome lemon cookie drip for example.
Flavorings matter certainly. Some just are harsher than others. You could try upping your VG ratio a bit, it would not hurt. If you are extremely sensitive to nic, Letitia is correct you can use nic salts which are very smooth.
Some people go max VG and add a bit of distilled water. I think you lose flavor that way.
Also you could try vaping some of your harsher juices at a lower wattage. That might help.
Good luck,
Anna
Some people go max VG and add a bit of distilled water. I think you lose flavor that way.
Also you could try vaping some of your harsher juices at a lower wattage. That might help.
Good luck,
Anna
Yes – thank you for that correction. Commercial Nic Salt juice is generally high in nicotine, but not exclusive to.
I whipped up a batch of new juice and found it unusually harsh. Thought my flavors were bad. Turns out I confused my numbers and made a 70/30 liquid instead of a 30/70. Rookie mistake! I was coughing like crazy.
Frankly at 3mg unless the freebase is oxidized there isn't much difference in th between the two.
@Tigeercat, I agree with the other's suggestion to experiment with lower wattage/power/temp settings... especially since your initial post describes the harshness as "feels more hot." I would also experiment with airflow. Opening up the airflow will dilute the vapor and make it feel cooler.
Some flavor concentrates may use ethyl alcohol as a carrier, and/or solvent. The alcohol can produce a harsh scratchy unpleasant vaping experience. The alcohol is fairly volatile, and will dissipate over time. Just tuck the bottles away for a couple of weeks, and then try them again. This can also allow all the ingredients to homogenize, and become more flavorful.
Or, you can try accelerating the process, by "breathing" the bottle for a few hours. Remove the cap, and drip tip (if it has one), so the bottle top is completely unobstructed. Then leave the bottle somewhere, where it won't get knocked over, and children or pets can't get to it. Depending on how much alcohol is in the e-liquid; it can take as little as a couple of hours, to overnight, to allow the alcohol to evaporate.
This method can be a bit of double-edged sword though; as it also allows other desired volatile aromatic notes to escape. I would recommend test vaping a small amount, every couple of hours, to check for lower harshness, and potential flavor loss. Stop the breathing process, when the e-liquid is suitably smooth, or you begin to notice unwanted loss of flavor.
Some flavor concentrates may use ethyl alcohol as a carrier, and/or solvent. The alcohol can produce a harsh scratchy unpleasant vaping experience. The alcohol is fairly volatile, and will dissipate over time. Just tuck the bottles away for a couple of weeks, and then try them again. This can also allow all the ingredients to homogenize, and become more flavorful.
Or, you can try accelerating the process, by "breathing" the bottle for a few hours. Remove the cap, and drip tip (if it has one), so the bottle top is completely unobstructed. Then leave the bottle somewhere, where it won't get knocked over, and children or pets can't get to it. Depending on how much alcohol is in the e-liquid; it can take as little as a couple of hours, to overnight, to allow the alcohol to evaporate.
This method can be a bit of double-edged sword though; as it also allows other desired volatile aromatic notes to escape. I would recommend test vaping a small amount, every couple of hours, to check for lower harshness, and potential flavor loss. Stop the breathing process, when the e-liquid is suitably smooth, or you begin to notice unwanted loss of flavor.
Yes juice ,( nic percentage , pg ratios, flavorings, etc) differs in TH / harshness for sure, but also can be from the set up as well. Wattages, airflow, coil placement, tank, chamber size, etc also contribute, but I do think nic percentage for the most part is the biggest contributor
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