Harvard Eliquid Study Today
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After getting into a large argument on Reddit regarding this, I'm a bit touchy about the subject.
I used to work for a moving company. Was vaping at the time. Stepped up to an IPV2.5 and started sub ohming. Favorite flavors were unicorn milk, Nutz, milk and honey, boss reserve, and a bit of mothers milk. Really only used the 3 companies, cosmic fog, cuttwood, and suicide bunny. Was vaping .3 ohm at about 60 watt single parallel. I was in great shape, as I worked for a moving company. It doesn't get more physical than that in terms of jobs.
I suddenly noticed one day I couldn't keep up. Was huffing and puffing more. Even 1 set of stairs would wind me. I ended up quitting that job and going into EMS.
well, needless to say, the shortness of breath on exertion never went away. I bumped into a post about diacetyl and AP, found my favorite juices were all high in AP and I was Vaping like 10ml a day, so I quit and went to Snus.
So here it is, a full year later. Still short of breath. Still trying to get it properly diagnosed, but being that it's a mild to moderate fixed airway obstruction, decreased fef25-75% and FEV1, with inconclusive HRCT results, it's really becoming a serious option that it is flavoring related.
Which sucks, because I truly thought I was reducing my risk. I do truly believe that Vaping is good for the world. But, we have to work out the kinks, such as flavorings. If I were any of you, I'd be mixing my own unflavored juices, or DIYing something that is well tested.
Willing to share more but would prefer a different thread. I would love to find others with similar symptoms to exchange test results. I want to get in contact with someone actively researching health risks of Vaping and wouldn't mind considering civil action on the above companies.
You are making a very tenuous connection between vaping and a lung function problem. There are literally hundreds of diseases and substance exposures that could have caused your breathing issue. If you formerly smoked then that's yet another risk factor to add to the list. Your moving job may have given you a workout but it wasn't much of a cardiovascular workout. Given that there is no documented and proven link between vaping and lung disease, you are jumping to conclusions with no evidence as your springboard.
Hmmm you have not even gotten a diagnosis that is solid yet, so you do not even know what the explaination/cause is for your condition . However without the most important info you are lacking you would like to start civil action against the eliquid vendors.
Really, seriously?
I do believe running back and forth to a truck is cardiovascular. Loading a truck with 300 boxes coming from the basement is all cardio...
It is moving in the direction of a diagnosis. If the diagnosis goes the way of the tests, civil action would be inevitable, whether from me or by another party. Class action is likely. And it will happen, and it will be good for Vaping, because it would make the juices safer. Vaping is in its infancy. This was bound to happen at some point in time.
Don't spend the money before it is in your hand. You have better have lived a pristine life and be genetically sound before you will ever win. You had better not have ever smoked or even been by second hand smoke, been in a house where there was ever black mold or any kind of toxic chemicals, your diet will have to be a perfect diet that is organically grown, etc........ getting my drift. You can say it will be good for vaping but whatever makes yu feel good about what you are trying to do is groovy. You will be fear mongering and looking for a hand out and it will set vaping back.
False. Each pulmonary illness has a superset pathology and totally different patterns in terms of test results. You can definitely pinpoint causation through testing, and my tears are leaning in a very specific direction. Mind you, I'm only 26, so lung issues at my age are uncommon, and I'm pretty well versed in medicine. No doctor, but I know what I'm talking about. Have been studying for quite a while.
So why did you vape in the manner that you claim if you are so well versed in human physiology and medicine? You had to know that it was extreme and that there are, as of yet, no long-term studies regarding its effects on the body. Extreme actions have consequences; drinking water can kill when consumption reaches sufficient levels. Yet I haven't seen anything in your comments acknowledging your responsibility for your own choices.
WI'll neither confirm nor deny. I do work in the field and am working towards a degree. Regardless, this is not only my opinion. This is the opinion of a small team of physicians working working for a very well known hospital.
Well, there's this thing called addiction.....
I had been smoking cigarettes since I was young. I switched because I believed (and still believe) Vaping is harm reduction. The problem is in a few flavoring compounds (which are not labeled). I just happened to favor a few flavors while knowing absolutely nothing about the flavoring industry and how flavors are made. If I could go back, I would have still vaped, maybe even still at the levels I did, but would have been far more particular about my juice selection.
No. I would prefer one with a different name though.
It's like a Seinfeld script with this guy.
Honestly sounds like Crohn’s disease, maybe a more reputable pulmonologist specialist is what you really need ?
ManiacMedic. A very telling moniker in the context of your civil action.
Maniac Medic v. Suicide Bunny. Sounds like a WWF card.
Oh my I had no idea it was such high security my question. First off just because you state you are working with a team of doctors (lolcough cough) does not make it so.I think you have an agenda dear fellow. Perhaps you belong with the Antz perhaps looking for a payout, perhaps even you see a easy way to pay your student loan if you are indeed a student. However all I can think at this point is, what ever!!!
Bwahhahahahhah OMG ya it couldn't be all the smoking that caused your so called illness. Ah priceless.
I don't want anything coming back to my school or institutions working with me. I would rather not disclose my qualifications.
But, again, it's people like you that are the problem. Assuming that Vaping is perfectly healthy and knocking those with documented complains will be detrimental to Vaping. I actually support Vaping, but I disagree with the way certain liquid manufacturers handle their business and toy with the health of their customers.
You haven't seen my test results, you don't experience my symptoms. It's a bit of a stretch for you to begin insulting someone... But it shows your character.
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