The truth: the Surgeon General's report of 1964 was over 50 years ago now, not just "decades". Very few people here started smoking before 1964. This idea that we just recently learned about the ravages of smoking is just more Orwellian nonsense.
If you want to try to suggest that BO is just another smoker's disease you have to explain how anyone discovered that those mostly smoking popcorn factory workers were ever diagnosed with something other than a run of the mill smoking related disease. But you can't do that. You can only continue to ignore the 50 ton elephant, hoping you can wish it away by repeating propaganda.
You know very well that those factory workers WERE NOT SMOKERS , you preach that you are a "fact" guy (which is absolutely hilarious) when you think about it . Let me educate you and your buddy that THERE ARE NO FACTS at this point , every single study says this over and over , what they all say is we do not have current information on this and lots of additional research is required to come to any worthwhile data .
All we have is old diketone studies that DOES NOT relate to how people vape today , what is 100% true is this:
Nobody can say with absolute certainty that vaping juice with diketones will (without question) cause serious health consequences and nobody can say with absolute certainty that vaping juice with diketones will not cause serious health consequences .
That IS THE ONLY FACT that is known so please spare me all your " hey, everyone check me out , i'm Mr Factual and what i say is Gods word ", i think Jman is considerably more credibly than you and everyone knows his stance , everything is dangerous so you should never attempt to reduce risk , reducing risk is also dangerous so stay away from reducing risk .
There are no facts , you try to post info that doesn't even apply to how people vape these days , J man does not have factual info , i cannot prove anything either at this point , NOBODY CAN it is not available .
Your diacetyl is only dangerous when inhaled in powder form is some of the most comical reading i have come across in years so thank you for that .
Yes , i know that the info not being available since no long term studies have been conducted on vaping large quantities of diketone loaded juice over long periods of time is not an acceptable excuse to you but to anyone with "basic common sense" it's a very good excuse and makes perfect sense .
Let me guess, you think that since there is no scientific proof that Santa Claus is too fat to fit inside a chimney then its a given that he fits just fine and until someone confirms that he would get stuck halfway down you will assume he is fully capable .
Every single study says much more research needs to be done .
Once again YOU CANNOT rely on past studies because they ARE NOT applicable to what vapors are doing today , saying anything is a undeniable fact is being extremely irresponsible .
I made it a point to save some of your posts along with your good buddy Jman so i can come back and remind you two (really the only two i know of on ECF) that promote the use of diketones since they have been proven safe , hold on a minute ....... i busted out laughing when i said that .
Time will tell the story and i am extremely confident that my "basic common sense" will prevail in the end over both of your complete lack of "basic common sense" but if i am wrong and it is proven that sub ohming huge quantities of diketone loaded juice over long periods of time is harmless i would gladly admit it .
Imo and it's my opinion since no facts are available , the chance of it being completely harmless is no chance and that comes directly from utilizing basic common sense.
I know both of you love the "basic common sense" stuff because you get so upset about it that you eventually start using it in your own posts which is even funnier .
