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Smoke Stik USA is full of bologna. BS like this makes me so, so angry. Why in the world, would you go on FOX and lie though you teeth!

For the record, Smoke Stik (I hope you are reading this forum), you are selling L88B. It is manufactured, filled and packaged in China. Same BS repackage as infamous BLU.

SmokeStikUsa, you got busted in a lie on the national TV.
 

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Smoke Stik USA is full of bologna. BS like this makes me so, so angry. Why in the world, would you go on FOX and lie though you teeth!

For the record, Smoke Stik (I hope you are reading this forum), you are selling L88B. It is manufactured, filled and packaged in China. Same BS repackage as infamous BLU.

SmokeStikUsa, you got busted in a lie on the national TV.

Tannerk, they are claiming that the liquid they use is manufactured in USA, not the hardware.
 

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Smoke Stik USA is full of bologna. BS like this makes me so, so angry. Why in the world, would you go on FOX and lie though you teeth!

For the record, Smoke Stik (I hope you are reading this forum), you are selling L88B. It is manufactured, filled and packaged in China. Same BS repackage as infamous BLU.

SmokeStikUsa, you got busted in a lie on the national TV.
Who cares whether it was entirely accurate or not..... it was something on your national news that gives the general public the perception that not all e-cigs are bad!
 

tannerk

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Tannerk, they are claiming that the liquid they use is manufactured in USA, not the hardware.

Yes, I understand. Look at their 5 pack, carts & packaging on their site. It is the only liquid they sell. Those packs are LSB and are NOT made or filled in USA.
 
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tannerk

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Who cares whether it was entirely accurate or not..... it was something on your national news that gives the general public the perception that not all e-cigs are bad!

I care, and you should too. When company makes statements like they did, it is important to back it up. There are plenty of "cowboys" out there, and last thing we need is FDA adding another count of "misleading the public" to their case against e-cigs!
 

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If SmokeStik is lying about the origin of their cartridges, may they be caught and banned instantly. No e-cig seller can stoop to the FDA's lying levels and claim the high ground.

FYI: This is NOT a retraction. It's a correction, a "clarification". In the jouranlistic pecking order, a correction is done for a part of a fair and balanced report that contained an error. A retraction -- extremely rare -- means the whole story was wrong and someone's head is being chopped off. Very, very rare.

P.S. I see that YOUTUBE labeled it a retraction. A lot YouTube knows ... zip.
 
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Sar

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I care, and you should too. When company makes statements like they did, it is important to back it up. There are plenty of "cowboys" out there, and last thing we need is FDA adding another count of "misleading the public" to their case against e-cigs!


I agree. I just looked at their website and couldn't find any information about manufacture of the carts or liquid. Did I look at the right company: http://www.smokestikusa.com ?

But news organizations don't do this type of retraction easily (sorry TBob, I meant correction :)). I wonder what kind of proof did smokestick offer.
 
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I care, and you should too. When company makes statements like they did, it is important to back it up. There are plenty of "cowboys" out there, and last thing we need is FDA adding another count of "misleading the public" to their case against e-cigs!
Don't get me wrong - I care very much about getting rid of any 'rogue traders' in the industry, but my point on this was that you are fighting a PR war in the US at the moment. The names are not familiar enough to the general public at the present time for any specific details to be remembered. eg: after the FDA release, all the general public heard was 'electronic cigarettes unsafe'. At least with this piece, there was something on your national news stating 'the FDA only looked at 2 companies and there are others out there'. At least some of the general public will get that message.
 

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I agree. I just looked at their website and couldn't find any information about manufacture of the carts or liquid. Did I look at the right company: http://www.smokestikusa.com ?

But news organizations don't do this type of retraction easily (sorry TBob, I meant correction :)). I wonder what kind of proof did smokestick offer.

As many of our distributors are aware, SmokeStik has been in the process of working with an American-based facility to produce our cartridges in the USA for some time now. We are pleased to announce that as of last month, we have made this transition, and that our cartridges are now made domestically. Further, all of the ingredients in these cartridges are certified by independent laboratories and MOST IMPORTANTLY, DO NOT contain any of the carcinogens referenced in the FDA Analysis report.
from the website: https://www.smokestikusa.com/index.htm#
and the statment after the FDA findings: https://www.smokestikusa.com/smokestik release.pdf
 

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Sar

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As many of our distributors are aware, SmokeStik has been in the process of working with an American-based facility to produce our cartridges in the USA for some time now. We are pleased to announce that as of last month, we have made this transition, and that our cartridges are now made domestically. Further, all of the ingredients in these cartridges are certified by independent laboratories and MOST IMPORTANTLY, DO NOT contain any of the carcinogens referenced in the FDA Analysis report.
from the website: https://www.smokestikusa.com/index.htm#
and the statment after the FDA findings: https://www.smokestikusa.com/smokestik release.pdf


Thanks, I was able to see it now. Don't know why I missed it.
 

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Whoa, whoa. This was NOT on the national news. This is from Fox13, a local Tampa/St. Petersburg (Fl) TV station. Millions did not see this. A few thousand did. This is not Fox News. This is Fox13.

Just keep this small little clarification triumph in perspective...
Oh. Thanks for clarifying that TB. Shame.
 

LeXeR

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I corrected JSB to LSB, That was my bad on abbreviation. LSB is Shenzhen Sailebao Technology.

And yes, here are cart closeup and multipack images, the same as they sell on the website. The only difference is color/logo on the pack.


You can get more info on LSB here:

Shenzhen Sailebao Technology Co., Ltd. - Electronic cigarette, mini electronic cigarette, E-cigarette

I'm not going to argue that the pictures look the same... but then again, pretty much all the cart pictures look the same it's still not proof either way. I'm not say that they are or are not produced here but it requires more then just pictures. I spoke with the local SmokeStix rep in Tampa, the one in the vid, and she believes in her product. She's only repeating the info that the corporate office had given her.
 

quititllc

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I do NOT believe that the carts are made in the U.S.

EVERY liquid company can make Original Equipment Manufacturer designs. These carts look nearly identical to the product which I sell.

The only thing that leads me to believe they MAY be manufactured in the U.S. is the price- 7.95 for 5? Awfully steep compared to many of the other companies out there. Although this does not mean anything, I am hoping that the increased price is due to the increased cost of manufacturing in the U.S.

In addition, did anyone else notice this when they googled smokestik?

::: SmokeStik :::
SmokeStik! - We've vaporized smoking! alternative smoking quit smoking.

I know, kind of hypocritical coming from someone named "quititllc" but I am trying to get a mod to change my display name to our new business name, which has zero references to quitting or cessation in ANY form.
 

quititllc

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Sent from my university email.

Dear SmokeStik,

When I google smokestik, I see

::: SmokeStik :::
SmokeStik! - We've vaporized smoking! alternative smoking quit smoking..

As a retailer myself, and coming from many retailers of electronic cigarettes out here, PLEASE limit your claims and advertisements in regards to smoking cessation. It only gets our industry in trouble with government agencies. I understand you may have plenty of anecdotal evidence that electronic cigarettes are a good smoking cessation product (as do most retailers), but in the eye of those who are challenging us (the FDA, and state governments), electronic cigarettes have zero scientific research proving they are smoking cessation devices. Please help ALL of us in the industry by limiting your claims, it does not further our industry in any manner, nor is it the correct and ethical way to operate an electronic cigarette business. We ALL appreciate your cooperation.

Sincerely,

A fellow e-cigarette retailer.
 
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