Has anyone Tried using flavors that are for DIY Alcohol

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My amateur winemaker brother has some "Brewer's Best" extracts. Unfortunately, there is no ingredient list on the labels. Some of them are obviously not usable for vaping. The blueberry for example was very syrupy, opaque, and appeared to have artificial coloring, though it smelled good. Against my better judgment I tried his Apricot, which appeared to be of a PG based viscosity, just for kicks and giggles. Think I used 10%. It was very weak, could not taste anything. He said he uses 3 4oz bottles per "batch" (I have no idea what size a batch is). Based on what most of them looked like, I wouldn't use them for vaping due to suspected sugars and artificial coloring. Some of them are probably usable. Make your call.

For what it's worth, the essentially useless data sheet for Apricot...
http://www.brewersbestkits.com/pdf/Nat flavor fids/Apricot FID.pdf

Yeah, vanillin, maltol, PG, but it doesn't list anything else.
 

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I did list distillers flavoring and have used brewing extracts (when I say extract, talking about fruit not malt) a long time ago, I would not vape either. Just putting a drop of brewing extract on your finger a taste it compared to the food extracts we use in vaping, the flavor is totally different.

@jambi A batch is normally 5 gal.
 

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My amateur winemaker brother has some "Brewer's Best" extracts. Unfortunately, there is no ingredient list on the labels. Some of them are obviously not usable for vaping. The blueberry for example was very syrupy, opaque, and appeared to have artificial coloring, though it smelled good. Against my better judgment I tried his Apricot, which appeared to be of a PG based viscosity, just for kicks and giggles. Think I used 10%. It was very weak, could not taste anything. He said he uses 3 4oz bottles per "batch" (I have no idea what size a batch is). Based on what most of them looked like, I wouldn't use them for vaping due to suspected sugars and artificial coloring. Some of them are probably usable. Make your call.

For what it's worth, the essentially useless data sheet for Apricot...
http://www.brewersbestkits.com/pdf/Nat flavor fids/Apricot FID.pdf

Yeah, vanillin, maltol, PG, but it doesn't list anything else.
I did try the Strawberry Schnapps, which I mixed @ 10% It required hardly any steeping one day and it was right to go. Although I discovered that 10% was too strong and cut it by half with the PG VG and found it passable. The Sammbucca I would not touch even in an alcohol drink as I did not like the list of ingredients.
As to color additives, I have noticed even the concentrates like for Creme de Menthe that I bought from a vape shop and which my wife loves had color (Green) and I have no idea what the food color used was. In Au where I am there are no labeling laws when it comes to e-juice and concentrates, at present, we have no regulation as such but there is a parliamentry review in progress atm. Who knows what if anything will come of it. I do not know what the FDA in the USA requires by way of labeling or the UK for that matter.

If any of you want to have a read of the debacle that is going on in Au with the inquiery and there are some excellent submissions here is the link. Submissions – Parliament of Australia they are some of the submissions made some are quite good.
 

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I did try the Strawberry Schnapps, which I mixed @ 10% It required hardly any steeping one day and it was right to go. Although I discovered that 10% was too strong and cut it by half with the PG VG and found it passable. The Sammbucca I would not touch even in an alcohol drink as I did not like the list of ingredients.
As to color additives, I have noticed even the concentrates like for Creme de Menthe that I bought from a vape shop and which my wife loves had color (Green) and I have no idea what the food color used was. In Au where I am there are no labeling laws when it comes to e-juice and concentrates, at present, we have no regulation as such but there is a parliamentry review in progress atm. Who knows what if anything will come of it. I do not know what the FDA in the USA requires by way of labeling or the UK for that matter.

If any of you want to have a read of the debacle that is going on in Au with the inquiery and there are some excellent submissions here is the link. Submissions – Parliament of Australia they are some of the submissions made some are quite good.
What brand is the Strawberry Schnapps? I want to try it if I can source it in the US.

There really isn't any hard data that I know of regarding artificial coloring. At this point I think it's more about avoiding the unknown factor than avoiding any concrete risk. My take on it is that color is irrelevant, it doesn't add anything flavor or performance wise (though some might think it pretty), which makes it a redundant element. If it's not making any improvement, best to eliminate it. This is of course pending hard evidence that it's harmful.

My first Lorann flavorings were the colored varieties. I bought them because Michael's only stocks the colored versions, and I didn't know any better at the time. I still have a 30 ml. bottle of colored LOR Banana Cream that was sent-to-me-by-mistake. I wasn't thrilled to receive it, but I'll use it till it's gone. I don't really like its fluorescent yellow color, to me eliquid should be clear to some neutral shade of mild brown. It should not be opaque, nor glow in the dark with artificial coloring. I won't use an extract that's opaque, or shows evidence of "solids separating out of solution". (example TFA Pancake). I'm also iffy about flavorings like FW Blood Orange, which shows visible evidence of contents separating (orange substance floats to the top like an oil), even though it's advertised as being water soluble. If it separates, that's not a good sign it's suitable to vape. (My opinion).

My main concern with the Brewer's Best extracts is the possible natural sugars, or the addition of anything non water-soluble. Vaping either of those is a concrete risk.
 
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A contributor on another forum I am a member of gave me a link of concentrate ingredients for Perfumes'Apprentice. When I looked at their ingredients, I got rather scared. Some do use essential oils. I think I will stick to vaping unflavored with just nicotine added. Perfumer's Apprentice

Having stated the above, when you consider what tobacco companies put into cigarettes, one thinks damned if you smoke and damned if you vape, but at least with vapes, I found I am more healthier. This is what is in cigs if you have not seen it.
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In Mexico a tobacco company has to publish the added substances to their products. This is a photo of the list. As I don't trust BT my guess is that they add other stuff .
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