Have I gone to something worse?

[SweetSpot]

Since buying the Jet and some extra juice, I feel like I'm vaping more than I ever smoked. I know part of it is my boyfriend will take one of my ecigs and enjoy it, despite never being a smoker and I find that while with him and then even alone, I constantly have the thing to my lips. Should I be concerned about constant vaping? It hasn't made me sick(experienced that the very first time I vaped an ecig), but is there any other concerns I should worry about?

 

[Ray D]

As long as you're not having negative effects: headaches, dizziness, light headedness, rapid pulse, jittery feelings or chest pains, you're not overdoing it.

Many people "chain vape" all day long. If it concerns you anyway, consider dropping your nicotine level down a notch or 2. Just remember that with vaping, the nicotine isn't hitting your system as quickly as it does with smoking anyway. So if you're vaping more often than you smoked, it's actually kinda normal, especially in the beginning.

 

[meli.]

Hi SweetSpot,

I think we have all been there, for me it felt like my PV was surgically attached to my lips, the best advice and tips I read on the forum and helped me was the following post:

When I First Started, I vaped like I smoked.

Take some hits, Put it Down. Take some hits, Put it Down.

But more and more I found myself Holding Onto my PV when I wasn't using it. I chocked this up to having quit Cigarettes. I was just Stressed Out and it was something that would pass given time.

But it Didn't Pass. In fact, I found myself carrying my PV around Constantly. And I was Chain Vaping a Lot of the Time. I started to think about taking a Hit when I was in the Grocery Store. Or the Hardware store or in a Restaurant or Movies. Places I would never have Smoked or even thought about Smoking slowly seemed to be OK.

This struck me as somewhat Alarming because one of the Reasons I wanted quit Cigarettes was to Break the Constant Dependencies of Having to Have a Cigarette. That and the work I do is in an a Smoke / Vape Free Environment. No Stealth Vaping. No Exceptions.

It seemed to me that I had traded one Addiction which was Manageable but was Very Un-Health for Another Addiction that was Perhaps Healthier but was Not as Manageable. It Wasn't what I wanted.

So I started to Not Carry my PV when I went to Stores or Restaurants or to the Movies. I just left it in my car. And I started to use my PV more like a Cigarette when I was at Home. Take some Hits, Put it Down. Take some Hits, Put it Down.

I needed to get back to being able to go 2 or 3 hours Without thinking about Vaping. Just like when I Smoked. Not just for Work but also to not feel like I had a Monkey on my Back constantly telling me to Vape.

The first week was Difficult. It felt like I was quitting Smoking again. But after about 10 Days those feelings of taking a Hit off my PV in Non-Smoking Places just Disappeared. More and More the Grip of having to use my PV Lessened. Sometimes I would get into my Car to run an Errand and forget to bring my PV. No Problem. Just do the Errand and take a Couple of Hits when I got home.

The Big Thing was that Work became Much Easier not thinking about taking a Hit all thru the day.

So for Me, No... I Don't Chain Vape Anymore. And I like it Much Better than when I did.

 

[tenshi]

I wondered that too in the beginning. I went from a 1/2 pack a day to vaping all day. With me, it was just the excitement of finally quitting smoking, and experimenting like crazy to find that perfect vape (hardware/e-juice). It finally slowed down after the initial "freak out" of finding something to finally get me to quit cigs. Saving grace is... I can vape all day, all week, all month and still not do the damage of one analog cig.

 

[Lorddeff07]

Nope, well.... if you ever find yourself getting headaches? which usually is the first way you will know you are already having a number of Nic OD side-effects, then yes, you are doing it too much. Other than that, I think you shouldn't worry.

I would like to see what happens when we start having e-juices with caffein in them along with nicotine.... scary

What strength of juice are you vaping?

 

[Taff-E]

Right on the UK forums we have been trying 45mg juice and guess what. It will change the way that you vape. When you use 45mg you find that you have a few puffs then put it down for 20 or 30 min so that means that you use less juice as well. If you are puffing on your e-cig all the time well that tells me you need to up your nicotine content.

 

[Taff-E]

There is a juice with caffeine in it it’s called green cow by Decadent Vapours

 

[Stoneface]

This answers one of my most basic questions about vaping. I especially appreciate the repost from meli. Thanks!

 

[Lorddeff07]

There is a juice with caffeine in it it’s called green cow by Decadent Vapours

Wow... I can just see people vaping zero nic and 20mg caf juices in a few years time instead of grabbing a cup of coffee.

 

[Plumes.91]

Vaping is not smoking. Because the nicotine is not floating on miniscule carbon molecules (Smoke) it is actually entering your system prior to it hitting your lungs. With vaping, the nicotine is absorbed quickly through the flesh of your mouth, your throat, your esophagus. So unlike smoking, the nicotine is being absorbed orally, & entering your bloodstream through what psychoactive substance researchers like to call the ORA, or the "Oral Rout of Administration"

While it does get absorbed faster orally, it does not make a complete circulatory journey as quickly as it would had it been absorbed through the lungs. This simply means that with vaping, it takes our bodies longer to feel the effects of the nicotine drug on our central nervous systems. So, we don't get the same "rush" that we would have had we been smoking. The nicotine in our vapor has more of a trickle effect, slowly being absorbed, slowly hitting our blood stream, slowly passing the blood brain barrier, and slowly effecting our CNS.

So, the average cigarette might have less nicotine by volume, but it is absorbed and utilized more efficiently than with vapor. 18mg juice is the closest mg range to best replicate the experience of a smoked cigarette. 18 to 24mg nicotine is much higher than the amount in a cigarette, but with that large amount of nicotine in the vapor, it will make up for the slower and less efficient oral absorption.

While this is true, taking a puff from an e-cig will still not effect your body as immediately as a cigarette would... And at the same time, the nicotine will be utilized more slowly. It will have a longer half-life once it has entered our bodies. This means that while we might feel like we are vaping much more than we were smoking, we are (depending on the juice and your pace) for the most part, never reaching the highest peak nicotine dose to brain peaks that would be experienced by smoking. However, the baseline lasts longer. So a 3, 4, 5, or 10 minute vape session can keep your body from physically withdrawing from nicotine much longer than having 1 cigarette... BUT, you will still crave those peak levels much more after a vape session, than you would had you just smoked a cigarette.

So vaping is kind-of a whole new monster. Its not as easy to reach those peaks and get that light-headed feeling as it was with cigarettes because rather than hitting us all at once with cigs, with vaping we are slowwwwly absorbing our nicotine. If you want to best replicate smoking, I suggest a mixture of two different juice levels. For every day, all day type vaping, I recommend 6, or 11-12mg juice. But when you are truly craving that buzz, (technically, that "peak" level of nicotine that smoke allows you to reach) you should have a cartomizer or atomizer that you can use with 18 to 24mg juice.

I personally use 12mg juice regularly and I will add 18mg flavorless juice to it in an atomizer when I am truly craving a nicotine buzz. Naturally, the further your two mg amounts are... (all day VS. buzz giving) the better the buzz of the buzz giving juice will supply you. Therefore, if you were to use 6mg juice on a regular basis and use 18mg juice to catch that peak, the peak would be more easily obtained than had you been using 12mg juice all day. This is how the body, and the cycle of "withdrawal & high" of an addict works.

 

[drewbalicious]

I've been vaping for 2 years. And the post above mine is one of the most informative I've yet to encounter. Much obliged Plumes!

 

[tj99959]

I'll almost have a panic attack if I don't have a PV in my hand when I walk over to the kitchen to get a fresh cup of coffee. Not at all uncommon to not take a single hit, but it just has to be with me. Kinda like a little kid with their "binky".

 

[Fordeetu]

The only thing that has happened to me is that If i vape continuously up until I go to bed, I have trouble falling asleep. What I've done: Gotten some zero nic menthol/hot cinnamon. I vape that at night. They have enough of a throat/oral hit that I don't miss the nic hit. Other than that, pretty much solid vaping all day long.

 

[tA71ana]

When I smoked, I loved it (even though I knew it was killing me). I would have done it all the time if I could have.

Now that I am vaping, I love it more than I ever loved smoking and vaping I can do all the time
I vape constantly with out a second thought and will never stop..I mean..it's the only 'vice' I have left and I'm keeping it!

 

[cocacola31173]

When I smoked, I loved it (even though I knew it was killing me). I would have done it all the time if I could have.

Now that I am vaping, I love it more than I ever loved smoking and vaping I can do all the time
I vape constantly with out a second thought and will never stop..I mean..it's the only 'vice' I have left and I'm keeping it!

Same here! If it wasn't for the high price of cigs and the way it would make me feel I probably would have been a 3 PAD smoker. I don't vape cause of any cravings, I just like the taste! To tell you the truth I don't have any more cravings. Even at work where sometimes it is hours before a break I don't have a problem where with the cigs I was climbing the walls.

Now I can vape as much as I want and my expenses are very low and my cough is gone and I feel soooo much better.

 

[Rockstarima]

I find that if I drip instead of using a tank, I vape a lot less. Also, I don't vape in pubic, at restaurants, or in stores. That leaves me home or in the car. At home I drip, smoke 5-7 drags, and put it down. The most important thing for me is not to vape while sitting in front of my computer..... Otherwise, I vape too much. Good luck. I hope things get easier for you.

 

[zoiDman]

Hi SweetSpot,

I think we have all been there, for me it felt like my PV was surgically attached to my lips, the best advice and tips I read on the forum and helped me was the following post:

Hi meli…

I think you have read this before. But if you haven’t, this is what lead up to the point where I knew I was vaping too much.

One thing I tried was to buy the Same Flavor in Different mg levels. That way if one was Too Strong or if One was Too Weak, I could just mix them Together and not have to throw one of them out.



I agree with not Holding your PV Constantly.

Here is something I posted awhile back....

When I first started Vaping, I Chain Vaped a Lot.

I mean a Lot. Seems that I was carrying around my PV all the time.

One mourning I got up from my Mourning Ritual of Reading e-Mails and Cain Vaping to go into the bathroom to brush my teeth. When I got into the bathroom I put my PV down and turned on the Water in the Sink. Then I pick up my PV in my Left hand and the Toothbrush in my right. Realizing I didn’t have a hand Free I put my PV down to grab the Toothpaste. Now that I was all ready, I picked up my PV and put the Toothbrush into my mouth.

As I looked into the Mirror with a toothbrush in my mouth and my PV in the Other, it Hit Me. What the Heck am I doing? Why am I carrying my PV around with my 24-7?

The point of this Long, and somewhat Bizarre, Story is I was holding my PV way too much. Hence I was Chain Vaping. I started taking 5 or 6 hits and then putting my PV down.

The first couple of Days felt weird. Not Smoking and Not Holding my PV. But after that, the desire to Chain Vape became less and Less. After a Month or so I was using my PV just like an Analog. Take some hits, put it down. 40 minutes later, take some hits, put it down. Etc.

Now None of this may apply to Everyone. But if you find yourself Chain Vaping Constantly and you hold your PV Constantly, try taking a few Hits and then putting your PV down.

It worked for me.

 

[DC2]

I find that if I drip instead of using a tank, I vape a lot less. Also, I don't vape in pubic, at restaurants, or in stores. That leaves me home or in the car. At home I drip, smoke 5-7 drags, and put it down. The most important thing for me is not to vape while sitting in front of my computer..... Otherwise, I vape too much. Good luck. I hope things get easier for you.

Yeah, anybody that is worried about vaping too much should really think about switching to dripping.
Some people consider it a hassle, but maybe for some people making it more of a hassle might be a good thing.

Personally I don't think it is a hassle at all, but then I usually vape only about one milliliter per day.
And when I don't really feel the need to vape anymore, the need to drip more often just makes me put it down instead.

And as an added bonus, vaping tastes better when dripping, and it's easy to change flavors on the fly.

 

[Racehorse]

is there any other concerns I should worry about?

I'm not sure anyone can answer that question FOR you...by that I mean, i have personal goals for myself, and some of those goals revolve around my behaviors and habits.

So vaping all the time may be fine for you. For me, it would not be fine at all.

Harmful? Again, that is personal. Scientifically, probably not. Psychologically and emotionally....maybe, depending on what YOU want for YOURSELF.

Hope this makes sense.

When I first started vaping I did have a friend "observe" that I seemed to vape way more than I ever smoked. That bothered me. It may not bother anyone else. So I decided to vape a little more in sympathy with how I used to smoke......not a whole lot.

My goals surrounding vaping are totally different than person A, B, C, or D. Mine is that I appreciate the FREEDOM i have from analogs. Now I want more freedom. Vaping is still tying me to "the vape." For me, that has to eventually go away, so I am working to that end.

You do what ever gets you thru, and keeps you off the analogs. If that is chain vaping, for now, so be it. If that is the only way to stay off analogs forever, then I say do it.

For me, I'm 6-8 months in now, I am never going to smoke again, so now I am looking for ways to vape less, too.

 

[Cartomizer]

Keep on vaping. It's better than analog all day :/