Cigarette to vaping... Depression?
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I have failed to plug in my charger case for about three days. Both batteries died on me. Currently smoking a cigarette. Ugh. Hoping something in this thing will make me feel a little better, but then guilt kicks in. I'll charge up when I leave work and hope this will be the only one I resort to today.
Found out there's two brick and mortar vape shops in Branford, which is about a half hour away. I may swing over there this weekend to check out some new equipment. All these yummy juices sound so tempting and may lift my spirits a bit.
Found out there's two brick and mortar vape shops in Branford, which is about a half hour away. I may swing over there this weekend to check out some new equipment. All these yummy juices sound so tempting and may lift my spirits a bit.
Don't feel guilty. Slipping it completely normal and happens to a lot of people.
Cigarette producers add MAO inhibitors to the cigarettes. They inhibit the monoamine oxidase enzyme. MAO/A and MAO/B inhibitors are used in some anti-depressants as well. Its probably the reason for which most of the patients in the psychiatric units are chain smokers. You stopped to smoke the cigarettes so you stopped to inhale MAO inhibitors. The result: depression.
Tobacco has many chemicals. It has been shown to help MANY different mental health issues. This is why many go from cigarettes to snus. Those tobacco properties are still present. When stopping cigarettes it is MUCH more complex than just nicotine. See how you are doing at 3 weeks off cigarettes. If it does not improve by then you may need to seek help to replace the chemicals you are missing. I am trying to keep this as short as possible while making sense, I hope I did.
I have been vaping for a little over a month and a half. Around the 2 Week mark I too had issues. I started not being able to breathe. I assumed that it was due to either withdraw, or the juice or this or that. Turns out that I was healthy and that the juice had no real reaction, except for PG; but that is s different story.
Turns out that I had an ongoing Panic Attack for over 2 weeks. My doctor; and upon research I too found that Cigarettes have 4 specific alkaloids in them when they burn off that give the user the "Calm" Feeling. It is not really the Nicotine, it is these 4 alkaloid chemicals that do this. These have a harder withdraw in your system and in my case the absence of them left me rather High-Strung. So once I addressed this and delt with the mental aspect it all cleared up.
Remember, your body still wants other chemicals other than nicotine. Also nicotine up-takes slower in e-liquid than in cigarettes. So could be a combo of circumstance and that. Just like everyone, I am not a doctor, but I do relate in my own way.
I hope everything gets better for you!
Turns out that I had an ongoing Panic Attack for over 2 weeks. My doctor; and upon research I too found that Cigarettes have 4 specific alkaloids in them when they burn off that give the user the "Calm" Feeling. It is not really the Nicotine, it is these 4 alkaloid chemicals that do this. These have a harder withdraw in your system and in my case the absence of them left me rather High-Strung. So once I addressed this and delt with the mental aspect it all cleared up.
Remember, your body still wants other chemicals other than nicotine. Also nicotine up-takes slower in e-liquid than in cigarettes. So could be a combo of circumstance and that. Just like everyone, I am not a doctor, but I do relate in my own way.
I hope everything gets better for you!
For me this is working. Tried to go to 12mg but feel deprssed. getting back to 18 and all are fine.
Not to sidetrack the thread but do you have any links to studies/evidence of this? I found a study from '96 discussing the presence of MAOI in tobacco smoke, curious about supporting evidence that it is intentionally added.
Kitty the best thing I've learned on ECF is that don't worry about the cig you slipped and smoked. Think about all the ones you haven't.
There is a reason that the patches gum all the quitting smoking "tools" at the drug store are basically anti depressants. It's really tough to break the habit. I tried the Blu ecig a few years ago and it didn't work for me. When you go the B&M try an ego. You can get set up quite cheap and for me plus a lot of people here it really helped. Good luck!
Hi OP, sorry to hear of your struggles, hang in there baby.
Life and your body are many faceted mechanisms, and plenty of stuff can affect us in so many ways it's not funny.
Dont fear of guilt over smoking while u try to quit, this is very normal even amongst those who have vaped for years.
Time heals all wounds....... So they say, whoever they are of course.
Life and your body are many faceted mechanisms, and plenty of stuff can affect us in so many ways it's not funny.
Dont fear of guilt over smoking while u try to quit, this is very normal even amongst those who have vaped for years.
Time heals all wounds....... So they say, whoever they are of course.
I visited Northeast Vapor Supplies in Branford CT today. The owner was very helpful in showing me devices and helping me pick what was best for me. I ended up with an eGo Twist and a few flavors. Absolutely LOVE their Twilight flavor (they sell online as well www.nevapor.com) been happily vaping away today and no cigarettes. I went down to 18mg as well, from the 24mg blu. Got Blueberry Pie and Mild Tobacco too. I see the tobacco lasting a while, totally hooked on Twilight and the Blueberry Pie is really good too. I'll probably go again next weekend for a few other flavors to change it up and keep myself psyched on them.
That's great to hear. For me finding flavors I liked was the key. And although I haven't been blown away yet it makes analogs taste awful in comparison and I hope that it does the same for you.
If not its a process and it may take some time. But progress is progress.
If not its a process and it may take some time. But progress is progress.
I feel like a kid in a candy shop. I think I'm going to stalk Alice In Vapeland on Tuesday night and try to get an order in for a sampler. I hear it's hard, not sure how quickly they reach capacity, hoping it's not a challenge to get the order in if I try right away. I think 16 yummy flavors should keep me pretty happy!
Still no cigarette today, in bed now so I think I've officially made it all day, and well over 24 hours. I have my "security" pack in my purse, I know that if I give them to my boyfriend I'll get nervous and buy another pack. But I doubt I'll smoke one, anytime soon at least. It's truly my security blanket right now. Just knowing they're there "just in case" is enough. But my Blueberry Pie is certainly much yummier.
Yay!
Still no cigarette today, in bed now so I think I've officially made it all day, and well over 24 hours. I have my "security" pack in my purse, I know that if I give them to my boyfriend I'll get nervous and buy another pack. But I doubt I'll smoke one, anytime soon at least. It's truly my security blanket right now. Just knowing they're there "just in case" is enough. But my Blueberry Pie is certainly much yummier.
Yay!
Hi Kitty
Sounds like your feeling a little better which is great, after two months I still have an unopened pack of stinkies in the house, I called it my............................"in case of emergency break glass", pack. Now i just obsess about running out of any vaping supplies, backups for my backups. Thanks for the update!
Sounds like your feeling a little better which is great, after two months I still have an unopened pack of stinkies in the house, I called it my............................"in case of emergency break glass", pack. Now i just obsess about running out of any vaping supplies, backups for my backups. Thanks for the update!
I'm a Katrina survivor and I can tell you there's nothing unusual at all about what you're feeling. Big disasters are just big. They overwhelm you. And, yeah, you were fine. Then, suddenly, you aren't. I got through our disaster so efficiently and upbeat and all. It was sometime in '06 I had the weird set in. Lot of us did. It's like all of the sudden you start to realize what happened.
Don't put extra pressure on yourself about the smoking. So you have a few regular cigs? So what? You've cut back on smoking and that's good. You can make more progress later. Don't expect yourself to perform miracles.
And when the emotions get weird, well, Sandy was an historic, freak of a storm nobody had ever seen the like of before. You kinda have a damn good reason for feeling bad or "off" or whatever.
I'm starting to feel that way too. Got three 10ml bottles and I know they will last plenty long to get more but the tricky part is going to be that it'll be a lot easy to run to the corner for Marlboros than the half hour drive to the only vape shop around or of course the shipping wait in the event I run out! Eek. Must make sure I keep plenty of back up around and lots of flavors to keep me wanting the juice and not the naughty sticks. Might need to hide a bottle somewhere to be safe.
I'm so glad you're all here! I must admit I was intimidated at first, I lurked for a while before I got up the courage to post. Everyone is so helpful and supportive. I look forward to the day I'm knowledgable enough to help someone in my current position.
I'm so glad you're all here! I must admit I was intimidated at first, I lurked for a while before I got up the courage to post. Everyone is so helpful and supportive. I look forward to the day I'm knowledgable enough to help someone in my current position.
mkbilbo: it's definitely a shock to the system. We keep saying we're lucky to have places to go, I've been at my boyfriend's and my mom has been at my aunt's. We keep thinking, we'll have a new house to go back to. The hardest part is that my dog had to go with my mom and although I see her once or twice a week it's tough. But, there are people who are truly homeless or stuck in hotels or shelters.
This was the northern Katrina, and my block was hit the hardest in the area. The road was filled with reporters and apart the entire neighborhood less a few houses that were up high enough were empty for months. My uncle immediately came out from Missouri to help and he had no idea what he was coming out to. Many have made it back in now but about half of the houses ony block are still vacant.
I'll go back home, eventually. It'll be a new house and I'll have my little dog and my new car and fresh paint and nice furniture and be healthier without my cigarettes
This was the northern Katrina, and my block was hit the hardest in the area. The road was filled with reporters and apart the entire neighborhood less a few houses that were up high enough were empty for months. My uncle immediately came out from Missouri to help and he had no idea what he was coming out to. Many have made it back in now but about half of the houses ony block are still vacant.
I'll go back home, eventually. It'll be a new house and I'll have my little dog and my new car and fresh paint and nice furniture and be healthier without my cigarettes
One thing that has worked for me, is to keep a "stress tank" handy. I use C5 and the new C8 cartomizers on a e-go 1100 mAh battery,and while I normally like to keep to the 11-18Mg range with more "fun flavors" (crimson bull, red energy, RY4, banana nut bread etc.) , I keep a tank of 24Mg tobacco handy for those times I stress and "want a cigarette"... it's still a lot cheaper to have one extra tank and bottle than a pack or two of analogs. I have gotten to the point that analogs taste nasty to me, and so does the 24Mg tobacco... but the nicotine boost for short term and then back to my normal vape works for me.
RobVP
Seabrook, TX
RobVP
Seabrook, TX
At NEVS today she suggested to keep a tobacco flavor around for the "cigarette urge" moments. I've tried it a few times today and I'm not into it much. It's not BAD, but I don't think it's very tobacco-y anyway so there's not much of a point. I don't see myself rebuying anything tobacco-y. At this point at least, the thought of "smoking" yummy blueberry vs having a cigarette is way more appealing! My boyfriend and his friend tried the tobacco one and neither got tobacco from it, it's very sweet.
I think keeping a backup of the Twilight one stashed away for an emergency will be safer than a pack of cigarettes, eventually at least. I know that worst case scenario is my boyfriend and almost all of his friends always have them, should I reach a moment of weakness. Just gotta keep my (in their eyes) "silly ecig" in hand when I'm around them smoking away and remind myself that my juice is way more delicious!
I think keeping a backup of the Twilight one stashed away for an emergency will be safer than a pack of cigarettes, eventually at least. I know that worst case scenario is my boyfriend and almost all of his friends always have them, should I reach a moment of weakness. Just gotta keep my (in their eyes) "silly ecig" in hand when I'm around them smoking away and remind myself that my juice is way more delicious!
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