Hi fellow vapers! I was commenting on horsehelpers tread (her first post). She told a brief story of her life and quitting smoking due to e-cigs, proudest day of her life she says... She also told her doctor and showed the doctor who was very postitive towards e-cigs as a result. I know many of you already have done this but it is a very powerful move for us to do. I think we all should do the same with our doctors before or if, they are affected by the propaganda. If we have them on our side we will win this game of public opinion! I am posting this here thinking more will see it. I think each of us can tell our doctors and that is something truly useful to our cause. Thank you again - horsehelper.
Have you seen your DR lately? Might be a very good idea.
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Excellent post. Thank you! I have a Dr. appointment coming up & can hardly wait. The first question she always asks me is if I would like to quit smoking. This time I will be able to tell her that I've been smoke free for over 7 months, and I plan on bring my PV to the visit, along with some printed information on vaping to show her.
I have told my doctors about this and they are all very supportive. I have not had a single one try to tell me that I haven't quit smoking or lecture me about nicotine. I've demonstrated it for them, too, and they all like it. One even commented that the flavor I was using made him hungry (it was Chocolate Eclair.)
Thanks for posting - it is amazing how fast threads fall back on this forum! I was thinking of changing the treads headline to:
Have you seen your DR lately? Might be a very good idea. They hate e-cigs!
Or, maybe they don't and you might have a considerable impact on that! ....
But, you can't change a headline in a the edit. I think this group needs heavy controversy to really hit a tread! Did you see how much action the ugly mods thread has gotten? Maybe I should have a header of: Dr's think mods are ugly!
I hope lot's of people see this or, I will resort to those other titles!!!!
Have you seen your DR lately? Might be a very good idea. They hate e-cigs!
Or, maybe they don't and you might have a considerable impact on that! ....
But, you can't change a headline in a the edit. I think this group needs heavy controversy to really hit a tread! Did you see how much action the ugly mods thread has gotten? Maybe I should have a header of: Dr's think mods are ugly!
I hope lot's of people see this or, I will resort to those other titles!!!!
I'm going in next week for my reg 6 month check up. I am very curious about my blood
pressure check. I really feel better now days and I am wondering if perhaps my
meds may need to be adjusted....some here have said they had theirs lowered.
My Dr's and old goat. I don't think anything I could tell him would make him happy. (lol)
Need to find me another younger Dr, I do believe.
pressure check. I really feel better now days and I am wondering if perhaps my
meds may need to be adjusted....some here have said they had theirs lowered.
My Dr's and old goat. I don't think anything I could tell him would make him happy. (lol)
Need to find me another younger Dr, I do believe.
Pretty much instant clue to them is you no longer smell like smoke when you come in the office. I haven't been to see mine since I quit smoking yet, I am more than confident that he will approve of me switching to vaping, rather than smoking.
I saw my doctor this past Tuesday for a check up. Six months ago, she was satisfied with my blood panel results and commented that she would like to see me raise my HDL's.
Six months and another blood panel later, my doctor is thrilled with my progress:
The only things I've done different in the past six months is:
Which had the bigger impact on my improvement? I can't say. I'm gonna keep on vaping, though.
Six months and another blood panel later, my doctor is thrilled with my progress:
The only things I've done different in the past six months is:
- Increase my intake of fish oil supplements from 2 grams daily to 4 grams daily
- Quit smoking analogs (3 weeks, 4 days at the time they took another blood specimen)
Which had the bigger impact on my improvement? I can't say. I'm gonna keep on vaping, though.
My doctor loves it that my wife and I have switched to e-cigs. He's even told a few other patients to try them instead of continuing to smoke. I know this, because one of them he told this to was my sister in law 
Most of us doctors approve of vaping, even the ones that know very little about it. I was the doc that would tell patients to quit smoking, and then I'd leave the hospital and light one up while walking to my car (BTW, there are a lot more doctors that smoke than people think). I actually have a few colleagues that do not smoke but want to start vaping!
Nicotine, in and of itself, is a very potent vasoconstrictor so I honestly doubt any claim of vaping lowering someone's blood pressure (unless they were using zero nic juice). There must be something else that they are doing. I would assume that it's some sort of lifestyle modification change...you'd be surprised to see how well something as simple as limiting salt intake will do in lowering a person's BP. Don't be surprised if your doc doesn't approve of vaping though. Even though he's older, I hope that your doc approves of your vaping. Quitting smoking is the primary objective, and as a lot of us know, the other "quit smoking methods" don't always work for everyone.
Smoking increases LDL and decreases HDL, and this is primarily an effect of nicotine. Aside from your HDL, your values from 6 months ago look pretty damn good. Again, unless you're vaping zero nic juice, the improvement of your HDL is solely a result of the fish oil supplements. Either way, your numbers look great. Keep it up
Nicotine, in and of itself, is a very potent vasoconstrictor so I honestly doubt any claim of vaping lowering someone's blood pressure (unless they were using zero nic juice). There must be something else that they are doing. I would assume that it's some sort of lifestyle modification change...you'd be surprised to see how well something as simple as limiting salt intake will do in lowering a person's BP. Don't be surprised if your doc doesn't approve of vaping though. Even though he's older, I hope that your doc approves of your vaping. Quitting smoking is the primary objective, and as a lot of us know, the other "quit smoking methods" don't always work for everyone.
I saw my doctor this past Tuesday for a check up. Six months ago, she was satisfied with my blood panel results and commented that she would like to see me raise my HDL's.
Six months and another blood panel later, my doctor is thrilled with my progress:
The only things I've done different in the past six months is:
- Increase my intake of fish oil supplements from 2 grams daily to 4 grams daily
- Quit smoking analogs (3 weeks, 4 days at the time they took another blood specimen)
Which had the bigger impact on my improvement? I can't say. I'm gonna keep on vaping, though.
Smoking increases LDL and decreases HDL, and this is primarily an effect of nicotine. Aside from your HDL, your values from 6 months ago look pretty damn good. Again, unless you're vaping zero nic juice, the improvement of your HDL is solely a result of the fish oil supplements. Either way, your numbers look great. Keep it up
Smoking increases LDL and decreases HDL, and this is primarily an effect of nicotine. Aside from your HDL, your values from 6 months ago look pretty damn good. Again, unless you're vaping zero nic juice, the improvement of your HDL is solely a result of the fish oil supplements. Either way, your numbers look great. Keep it up
Thanks, Doc! Will do!
12 mg nic juice in my PV 98% of the time.
It's ironic isn't it. I know that many in the medical profession smoke. I am in the field of public relations and I think what doctors have to say about health and specifically vaping will have a massive effect on the public. Maybe doctors solving the problem of their own smoking with e-cigarettes will be that much more powerful - if only that these doctors will have the passion of their experience to fight the hypocrisy that is all too pervasive in our culture. (I guess that may seem ironic coming from me.) Path77 -Thanks for speaking up!
My blood pressure went from 130/80 to 116/72 in a month and has continued to stay in that range for the last 2 months--I'm 48years. Even when I was smoking, I ran 3-4 miles 6 days a week along with working out in the gym 1.5 hours a day and still my blood pressure was a high. Almost as soon as a stopped smoking the blood pressure dropped.
cheers,
Yay! I did that last month - and I think he gave me a break on the cost of some future work as a prize! Maybe not. But he was very happy I quit.
I gave my doc e-cigarette-forum.com as THE 1st place to visit on-line (and advised buying only on-line). She added the information to her reference notes handbook.
I smoked a pack a day for 13 years, and going through the stress of medical school and residency/fellowship was part of my excuse for not quitting. That's a large part of the reason why many other doctors smoke. Yes, it is somewhat hypocritical, but in the same respect, so is an obese doctor telling a patient to lose weight...or a lawyer speaking about ethics
Everyone, doctors included, has vices, and some of them are more harmful than others. As doctors, we are often held at a higher standard when it comes to health related topics, but in the end we are still human and we struggle with the same things that everyone else struggles with. I'm just glad that my brother introduced me to vaping (I guess he's making up for it since he introduced me to smoking in the first place), because this was the only thing that has gotten me to kick the habit. I've been analog-free for 6 months and counting!We still consider 130/80 within the normal range, but the newer classification systems have added a "pre-hypertenison" category (systolic 120-139 / diastolic 80-89). All that means is that you are at increased risk of developing hypertension. I'm still in the old-school camp and would consider that normal. The most difficult thing about treating hypertension is that there is no set guideline for treatment. The first step is always lifestyle modification (diet and exercise) and then possibly an addition of a diuretic. We always advise smoking cessation, and even though nicotine is the main culprit, there are a lot more chemicals/carcinogens in cigarettes that contribute to high blood pressure. 116/72 is great! Keep doing what you're doing
I smoked a pack a day for 13 years, and going through the stress of medical school and residency/fellowship was part of my excuse for not quitting. That's a large part of the reason why many other doctors smoke. Yes, it is somewhat hypocritical, but in the same respect, so is an obese doctor telling a patient to lose weight...or a lawyer speaking about ethics
I hope you know that I am not pointing my finger at you when discussing hypocrisy. I appreciate that you stepped forward to offer your slant in this thread. I think you are quite honest. I was referring to the hypocritical situation we have here. I'm not talking about the doctors and nurses smoking or overweight (like me). I might be talking about the need in our culture that requires you to hide it, to have us all hide the - facts. I was referring to the situation where we have something that really helps smokers quit far more than anything previously discovered and state governments are trying to stop access. I'm saying that there are efforts to color this choice, e-cigs, as a bad one. Why do we hear about anti-freeze, why is it, seemingly, morally indefensible to use e-cigs when nicorettes are fine? What is behind this do you think? To fight this we really do need doctors and people who practice medicine. You are in a unique position because people consider you experts, rightly so, and we trust your opinion. In a situation like this we could really use the medical profession on our side. That is why I want us, your patients, to bring this information to you so that it may be something to balance or affect the ultimate opinion doctors hold. We show our facts you make your opinions. I think it's powerful.
I think, in a perfect world, if people could tell their truth and we could comprehend it as such we would all be in a better place.
Its interesting you mention this...
When I finally made the switch completely to vaping (took me 6 months), I started changing many things...but probably more by accident than anything. I quit drinking alcohol...no reason really...just didn't feel like it. I drastically lowered my consumption of coffee as well. I used to drink a pot or two per day of coffee...and now I have one cup a day. Instead I find myself drinking more water, juice, and some non caffinated tea. I also stopped drinking soda. Again...I just didn't feel like consuming these things. I need to go see a doctor...because besides the massive amounts of money I'm sure I'm saving...I'm feeling really really good these days. Been smoke free since last August. I'm sure this isn't the case with everyone...just noticed this recently about myself.
Oh...no...I know that you were not pointing any fingers at me or calling me a hypocrit. I was just pointing out that most people get all worked up when they hear about doctors that smoke, but they forget that doctors are people too and do the same things that non-doctors do. Also, you don't need to be a doctor to know that smoking is bad, yet we still smoked. My comment about the lawyer was my crack at being humorous, but my humor doesn't always translate well on paper (err...I mean computer). Over time, I believe that most doctors will be on our side of this topic. While the long-term effects are yet to be seen, common sense and my experience tells me that it's a hell of a lot better than smoking.
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