having issues with my ecig, help plz?

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goarbash

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i have an njoy npro e cig and i am not realy satisfied with the nic levels from the menthol full strength capsules(18mg) can u add liquid to these? how do i do so? when do i add the liquid or do i just need to get a different model? currently i smoke a pack a day newports sometimes pack and a half to 2 on bad days. need help plz! dont want anymore tar in my lungs been smoking for 5 years at a pack a day.
 

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You only have the one cell then?...I can see why you aren't too impressed with your gear - I think you need two or three of everything with these things.

As far as I have learned, they were invented as stop-gaps to use in places where smoking is banned just to grab a bit of nicotine, I don't believe they were ever intended as 24/7 cig replacements.


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I wish they would stop selling those kits, they are cheaply made, search around the forum and there are three kits you'll hear of constantly. 510, 901, em4...oh and 801, so that four sorry. Research the pros and cons of those and pick two. If someone told you it was cheaper than smoking analogs, they were right, but you won't see the savings until you get comfortable with your likes and dislikes and settle into a routine.
 

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thanks for the information thinking about getting a vaporking from v4l. but does it realy make that big of a difference? i mean they all have an atomizer and a battery. are the differences realy that huge?

Yes. The VK has cartomizers where the cartridge and atomizer is one piece. The idea is to keep you buying their cartomizers rather than like with the 510, 901, 801 you have separate atomizers and cartridges where you can add juice to the carts, which is less expensive in the long run.

However, there are workarounds for refilling cartomizers to make them last longer. From what I gather, it's not as easy as refilling a 510/901/801 cartridge but it can be done. OR if you have enough money you can just throw away the cartomizers when you're out of juice and buy more.

There are advocates of both ways but you should do a search on cartomizers and find what problems it presents and how those problems are overcome by people familiar with them.

The 510 which I have is pretty straight forward - it is a manual battery and doesn't require the primer puff to start the atomizer like you Njoy - you control the battery not the battery controlling you - the manual won't cut you off in the middle of a good vape and you won't have a time out period after the cutoff because there is none. But if you over use the button the 510 can get hot. The trick is to just use it enough to vaporize the liquid and drag. In that sense it is close to how you drag on a cigarette. The manual versions of the 901 and 801 work much the same as described for the 510. And I believe that there is now or will be shortly a manual version of VKing.
 

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Yes. The VK has cartomizers where the cartridge and atomizer is one piece. The idea is to keep you buying their cartomizers rather than like with the 510, 901, 801 you have separate atomizers and cartridges where you can add juice to the carts, which is less expensive in the long run. .

The VK from V4L is becoming a pet peave of mine. It seems people are here to just promote that product from that supplier. People here might use a atty from Tottally Wicked, but they will explain its a 810 or 510, so you can shop around.

VK is not doing that... Here is the truth. the VK is a KR808D-1. You can buy that from many suppliers not just V4L.
Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail

The KR808D-1 uses a battery I beleive is an 801 or 901. Maybe one of the REAL users can fill us in there. So why not buy an 801 or 901 kit, then a pack of cart-o-mizers and try it out? That way if you find that 12 drops of liquid REALLY don't last all day, you have something to fall back on, rather than contiuning to buy expesive carts.

Re-filling is not the answer either. They are sold in 5 packs of a flavor. So lets say you get tired of Peach flavor.. Are you going to fill one of those carts with MArlboro? I think not, it will mix the flavoers and could taste like your you know what..

Also with these cart-o-mizers being sealed that means you can't every dry them out or clean them. Soon bacteria is going to grow in the thing. Its getting mositure from your mouth plus heat from the atty, perfect conditions to grow some really nasty stuff that will harm you. Lest with the 401/510/910/810 you can completely take it apart and clean them in alchol or whatever..
 

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i have an njoy npro e cig and i am not realy satisfied with the nic levels from the menthol full strength capsules(18mg) can u add liquid to these? how do i do so? when do i add the liquid or do i just need to get a different model? currently i smoke a pack a day newports sometimes pack and a half to 2 on bad days. need help plz! dont want anymore tar in my lungs been smoking for 5 years at a pack a day.

Goarbash,
The npro is very easy to refill, but it does have a very small capacity.
Take the brown cart off of the e-cig, take some type of small pick ( a toothpick will work), insert it in the hole in the top, and push up with it.
This will get the filler up where you can refill it. Make sure you don't put too much in, not where it's puddling, or you'll get juice in your mouth.
That's pretty much all there is to it. Reseat the filler and you are ready to go.
 

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The VK from V4L is becoming a pet peave of mine. It seems people are here to just promote that product from that supplier. People here might use a atty from Tottally Wicked, but they will explain its a 810 or 510, so you can shop around.

VK is not doing that... Here is the truth. the VK is a KR808D-1. You can buy that from many suppliers not just V4L.
Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail

Yes, people promote the VK from Vapor4life but Steve (the owner) has nothing to do with that. It is true the VK is a KR808D-1, but Steve works with the supplier, including at least 1 trip to China, to have changes made to improve it.

The VK is more like an enhanced KR808D-1. You can order the generic, but you won't know if you're getting the longer-lasting batteries or other improvements. You also won't get all the freebies Steve always throws in.

One point is that the VK cartomizers are filled with HIS juice. The same liquid you can buy on his site. His cartos originally held .5 ml of juice. They now hold .8 ml and will soon hold 1 ml.

His service is incredible. If you have a problem with something, you just let him know and he will make it right. This is not just talk, you can see plenty of evidence in the vapor4life forum.

The KR808D-1 uses a battery I beleive is an 801 or 901. Maybe one of the REAL users can fill us in there. So why not buy an 801 or 901 kit, then a pack of cart-o-mizers and try it out? That way if you find that 12 drops of liquid REALLY don't last all day, you have something to fall back on, rather than contiuning to buy expesive carts.

The KR808D-1 uses 901 threads, but you can't get a draw through it without an adapter. Vapor Country sells the adapter. When I refill my VK cartos, I put in 20 drops.

Re-filling is not the answer either. They are sold in 5 packs of a flavor. So lets say you get tired of Peach flavor.. Are you going to fill one of those carts with MArlboro? I think not, it will mix the flavoers and could taste like your you know what..

It's very easy to rinse out a carto before refilling. Changing flavors is a snap. Get your facts straight.

Also with these cart-o-mizers being sealed that means you can't every dry them out or clean them. Soon bacteria is going to grow in the thing. Its getting mositure from your mouth plus heat from the atty, perfect conditions to grow some really nasty stuff that will harm you. Lest with the 401/510/910/810 you can completely take it apart and clean them in alchol or whatever..

Now your'e just being silly. As I said above, rinsing is very easy and I do it with HOT water.

If you want to talk about bacteria and such, look at the attomizer in any 3-piece e-cig. Many on this site warn against rinsing and soaking them in anything. If you take that advise, what do you think is growing in there?

Bob
 

props76

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Missed your response Bob before I wrote the above.

I have problems with the claims from this company, and the more they speak the more holes seem to be exposed..

The 901 battiers won't work? Oh yeah, thats why healthcabin has them listed as the same thing??

VK has "super" batteries accoring to you. How about a number... How man mah are these batts?

The truth comes out about the carts. These carts that last all day only took .5ml?? Thats 10 drops.. Yet they last all day? Thats BS. Why not be honest about it?
 

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I'm going to reply to myself..

VK = K808D-1 = 901 (batt) with K808D-1 (cart-o-mizer)

Rather than the VK kit for $69.00 and 5 cart-o-mizers for $12.99, buy a 901 kit for under 40 bucks anywhere, and a 5 cart-o-mizer pack from Healthcabin for $7.50.

Same thing, 30 bucks cheaper, and you aren't stuck with cart-o-mizers..

Except it simply won't work.

A KR808D-1 cartomizer on a 901 battery will not function. You either need the adapter, or some other mechanism for creating the vent hole.
 

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Their words not mine...

I trust that you don't have a 901 and 808D-1 cartomizers. I DO.

If you have a battery with a built-in vent.. like the KR808D-1 battery... then you can use THAT battery on both the cartomizers and the 901 atty. In other words, you can use a KR808D-1 battery on a 901. But not the other way around.

If Health Cabin is selling a battery that works with both, then it is a KR808D-1 style battery, not a (SLB) 901 style battery.
 

goarbash

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not realy looking for the flame war on that guys/gals but thanks for the information. so basicaly i should look at the 901 and the VK(kr808d1) and see which suits my needs more? im lookin for something with a easy draw(i dont feel like im sucking a brick through a hose). and a manual battery. decent battery life also because im not always at the house in fact im in my car a lot of the time.
 

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Missed your response Bob before I wrote the above.

I have problems with the claims from this company, and the more they speak the more holes seem to be exposed..

The 901 battiers won't work? Oh yeah, thats why healthcabin has them listed as the same thing??

VK has "super" batteries accoring to you. How about a number... How man mah are these batts?

The truth comes out about the carts. These carts that last all day only took .5ml?? Thats 10 drops.. Yet they last all day? Thats BS. Why not be honest about it?

Would you spell out these "claims from this company" and point out where you saw them and who made them? Don't confuse what a user says for what the company says.

So, if Health Cabin says it, it must be true? I have no experience with the 901 but I have a Silver Bullet, which several people use with a 901 atty, using the 510 - 901 adapter. I have that adapter and can attest that you can't get a draw with a cartomizer. If you add the Vapor Country adapter, it works well. Here's a direct link to their adapter:

DSE-901 PCC (White) PRE-SALE!!!

Again, who said the cartomizers last all day? I haven't seen anyone make that claim. In fact, on the v4l forum, most everyone says they go through more than that.

The VK is probably not for everyone. In fact, if you like what you use, you shouldn't change. Most of the different models of e-cig on this site have a loyal following. That's great. I still have and use a 510 and RN4072 and like them both.

The VK advantages are:

1. No dripping or topping off. I no longer need to carry a bottle of liquid with me all the time.

2. The vapor is consistent for the life of the cartomizer. The liquid is used more evenly because the atty goes through the middle of the filler. It's not stuck to one end of it.

3. No more trying different cart mods to find a filler that wicks well without leaking. I can throw several cartomizers in my pocket, if I wish, and not worry about leaking.

4. No more worry about a dead or nasty tasting atomizer. It's built into the cart and they're cheap.

5. The level of customer service from vapor4life.com is far above what I've seen from any vendor on this forum. If ANYTHING goes wrong, Steve will make it right. Even if you bought a pack of cartomizers or some liquid that you don't like, he'll take care of you. Just read the forum and you will see.

If you like what you're using, that's great. Don't slam a product you obviously know nothing about.
 

props76

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not realy looking for the flame war on that guys/gals but thanks for the information. so basicaly i should look at the 901 and the VK(kr808d1) and see which suits my needs more? im lookin for something with a easy draw(i dont feel like im sucking a brick through a hose). and a manual battery. decent battery life also because im not always at the house in fact im in my car a lot of the time.


If you are hung-up on cart-o-mizers, then the KR808D-1 battery it seems will work on a 901. Thats where this thread went, not to say that is the ultimate e-cig setup ever..

It seems 510 has the most support of any e-cig on here, which seems to have been developed after the 910 and has been improved. The 510/810/910 family alll have carts that can easily be refilled, and or run without them, just dripping on the atty.

I use the 810, becaue I wanted massive amounts of vape and long bat life. But its heavy and looks like a huge pen. The batteries on these are 280 mah, while the 510 has 150 mah batts (bigger the number the longer they last but of course the bigger they are)

If you are in your car a lot, you can get a car charger, or even better a passthrough, with a cig-lighter to USB adaptor to plug it into. No issue with batteries when its in you car.
 
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