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We are trying to get rid of that taste somehow. I would like to know how to get it out of there also. I tried the steam cleaning and coke and burning it off and nothing does it. I have a 510 that I can't use because it stinks.
burning it will compound the issue......chances are there is still some hiding down there and they are very hard to dissasemble and not destroy them

try keeping it wet and see if it's better
 

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The more you vape the more you need to top off your carts .

If you are as you say continuously vaping and getting a burning taste then you are not topping off enough.

Learn how many drags you get from 2-3 drops of liquid as soon as you have taken them top off your cart again.

You could also have 2 or 3 e-cigs lined up and rotate them after 4-5 draws.
That way 2 are always resting.

When you leave them resting how do they need to be sitting? Standing on end or laying on the side? I have three that I rotate.

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I will give the coke soak a go. Could this horrid taste be burning VG... that nasty elephant in the room??

Until temp controlled attys arrive, it's important to 1) get the viscosity about right (just a little thicker than water) and 2) don't let the atty get dry.

There's no need to use more than 1/2 VG if you're not allergic to PG.

Try just PG. PG is totally heat stable.

Letting the atty get dry will burn the dry residue (flavorings and such).

Maybe best to leave longer gaps between vapes too to let the liquid have time to flow. A stronger short inhale now and then to get more juice to the coil is helpful too.
 

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if you're burning that wick it is running too dry.......next time it tastes burnt drop 2 drops right on the bridge of the atty and see if it tastes better for a minute....ruyan claims a 6 month warranty but you are supposed to ship it back so you better store em up and ship all at once


Yeah. That's exactly how it goes for me... 2 to maybe 4 good draws and it's back to lung-sear time. I suppose these atomizers are just toast.

I really don't think I ever ran mine dry, aside from the dry burn cleaning technique. I did vape a LOT, though and topped it often.
 

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Until temp controlled attys arrive, it's important to 1) get the viscosity about right (just a little thicker than water) and 2) don't let the atty get dry.

There's no need to use more than 1/2 VG if you're not allergic to PG.

Try just PG. PG is totally heat stable.

Letting the atty get dry will burn the dry residue (flavorings and such).

Maybe best to leave longer gaps between vapes too to let the liquid have time to flow. A stronger short inhale now and then to get more juice to the coil is helpful too.


Unfortunately, I just blew the last of my vaping budget on a big lot of Ecopure VG juice.
No matter, I'll get some PG and cut it with that.


I don't have any distilled water handy... is it alright to use a drop or two of carbon filtered tap water, assuming the mix gets used within 24 hours?
 

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The reason you need to keep dropping/topping off is because the e-cig is designed for light or occasional use.

It is an alternative to smoking and was not supposed to take the place of a 40-60 a day habit.

As said already the atomiser either needs lots of liquid constantly or you need to take a break between drags to give the liquid in the cart time to soak down in to the wick.

If you are sitting constantly with 3 e-cigs and I presume 3 batteries on charge ?.

I would suggest you start looking at the large battery models out there.
While they dont look like a regular cig and are expensive , they do work out a lot cheaper in the long run.
The batteries hold their charge longer and also last longer than the stick type.
The switch is also a great bonus.

Look at the ones compatable with your atomisers.

You will still need to change your atomisers regular afraid this is the nature of the beast.
 

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The reason you need to keep dropping/topping off is because the e-cig is designed for light or occasional use.

It is an alternative to smoking and was not supposed to take the place of a 40-60 a day habit.

As said already the atomiser either needs lots of liquid constantly or you need to take a break between drags to give the liquid in the cart time to soak down in to the wick.

If you are sitting constantly with 3 e-cigs and I presume 3 batteries on charge ?.

I would suggest you start looking at the large battery models out there.
While they dont look like a regular cig and are expensive , they do work out a lot cheaper in the long run.
The batteries hold their charge longer and also last longer than the stick type.
The switch is also a great bonus.

Look at the ones compatable with your atomisers.

You will still need to change your atomisers regular afraid this is the nature of the beast.

Keef, you're quite right - the 901 is not a heavy duty vaping machine, as I've been using it. Hopefully, in a few days, I'll be vaping as lightly as I was smoking (half pack a day + nicotine gum).

And thanks to all for their input.
 

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Sounds like a few people in this thread are tasting dry atomizer.

You are probably power hitting this thing like I do.
And not leaving enough time between drags to let the juice wick up for the next one.

When you smoke these things like a real cigarette, you'll have to find a way around it.

Top off more often if you are using cartridges.
I find I can smoke about two cigarettes worth at best on a new cartridge.
Then I have to top off before each additional "cigarette break" for the rest of the day.

And when I'm dripping, I can take about four or five drags, then have to drip again.
I used to suck down a cigarette in about 8 drags, within about 8 minutes or less.

These things can't keep up with that without additional care and feeding.

I think most people here just take a few drags every now and then.
I think they are just in it for the nicotine fix, not for the smoking a cigarette experience.
Such people, which is most of them it seems, don't have these problems.
 

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Sounds like a few people in this thread are tasting dry atomizer.

You are probably power hitting this thing like I do.
And not leaving enough time between drags to let the juice wick up for the next one.

This is a good point. I had company the other day and rather than sitting here at the computer vaping away I was having a conversation on the porch.... probably around 4 hours out there and I had a fully loaded 510 when I went out and would take occasional drags and it lasted without charging and without topping off. I was a bit surprised. Pleasantly surprised and it was probably the best 'ad' for it because it just kept on vaping.
 

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This is a good point.
Thank you.

This is my new mission in life I think, to drive home the point that there are two ways to use these things. One way is to smoke them like a cigarette, and try to blast through about 10 drags in less than 10 minutes and move on with your life. The other way is to take a drag every few minutes or so throughout the day to keep that nicotine fix rolling.

And it makes all the difference in the world which way you are using it.
These are much better for the latter than the former, due to wicking issues.

But there are ways to cope, as long as you recognize the limitations.

I power hit my 510 for 10 minutes at a time every few hours.
And I have severe wicking issues and used to taste an awful lot of dry atomizer.

I don't have those issues now that I've realized this.
I just deal with it by topping off when needed, or dripping more often.

My goal is to simply be smarter than the wicking material.
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Thank you.

This is my new mission in life I think, to drive home the point that there are two ways to use these things. One way is to smoke them like a cigarette, and try to blast through about 10 drags in less than 10 minutes and move on with your life. The other way is to take a drag every few minutes or so throughout the day to keep that nicotine fix rolling.

And it makes all the difference in the world which way you are using it.
These are much better for the latter than the former, due to wicking issues.

But there are ways to cope, as long as you recognize the limitations.

I power hit my 510 for 10 minutes at a time every few hours.
And I have severe wicking issues and used to taste an awful lot of dry atomizer.

I don't have those issues now that I've realized this.
I just deal with it by topping off when needed, or dripping more often.

All good points, imo. I don't know if it's the straw mod on the cart or something else but I'm not having wicking issues. In fact, my first vape in the morning off of a passthru with cappuccino is a good cool vape and the juice is always right there. I don't purposely load it up the night before so it could be in any filled, half filled, almost needs filled condition but it's a good first vape.
 

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All good points, imo. I don't know if it's the straw mod on the cart or something else but I'm not having wicking issues.
The straw mod probably helps a LOT with the wicking issues.
I am resisting going there, although I did try it once.

I don't like having to leave an air pocket in the bottom.
Too much hassle for me.

I've chosen instead to drip most of the time, and not worry about that.
Although when I use a cartridge the "windmill method" is solving my problems just fine too.

But the "windmill method" is a tricky beast, and is NOT recommended for automatic batteries.
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The straw mod probably helps a LOT with the wicking issues.
I am resisting going there, although I did try it once.

I don't like having to leave an air pocket in the bottom.
Too much hassle for me.

I've chosen instead to drip most of the time, and not worry about that.
Although when I use a cartridge the "windmill method" is solving my problems just fine too.

But the "windmill method" is a tricky beast, and is NOT recommended for automatic batteries.
:)

The way to do the cart mode is to take a night off and do about 12 of them. get the right length on the straw (11/16 on mine) cut them all first. Then pull about 1/8 inch of the filler up. Cut it off with scissors. Use a saftey pin to make a 'channel' in the curved side of the cart and insert the straw, tamp the filler around it and you're good to go.

I lol on the first post of the 'windmill method'. I thought, now I know how to spot deadcat2 in the park. Lol.
 
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