HCigar King Clone...Did I Get Ripped Off?

[Bad Ninja]

I'm sure FT purchases directly from manufacturers. As you know, Ninja, hcigar is not a manufacturer. They are a wholesaler.

Correct you
Lost me when you said "it makes no sense...."

Makes perfect sense to sell to a retailer that does a million dollars a day.

They don't, because FT would retail their product at a price very close to what hcigar sells wholesale.

FT has to go the back door route and buy from their Manufacturer.
However, most FT items that people claim are hcigar are not.

Also there are manufacturers in China that make a better product than HCigar.

 

[NatureBoy]

I did see one item on there with a really hefty price and FT actually apologized for it because the manufacturer insisted the sell it for MRSP. Can't remember what it was... I think it was a mod.

I've seen enough complaints of various HCigar mods to think you can get a crappy or great one from just about any of them. Luck of the draw it seems sometimes...

 

[VapingTurtle]

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Also there are manufacturers in China that make a better product than HCigar.

The key point is that HCigar does not make any products. They buy from manufacturers and sell wholesale. That is their business. And depending upon demand, I would imagine that for any given product, they may buy that same product from multiple manufacturers.

i.e., that HCig King (or whatever) that you buy may not come from the same manufacturer (let alone the same production line) as the next guy's HCig King.

 

[Bad Ninja]

The key point is that HCigar does not make any products. They buy from manufacturers and sell wholesale. That is their business. And depending upon demand, I would imagine that for any given product, they may buy that same product from multiple manufacturers.

i.e., that HCig King (or whatever) that you buy may not come from the same manufacturer (let alone the same production line) as the next guy's HCig King.

Please stop repeating yourself.
I am well aware HCigar doesn't thread tubes.

You missed my point entirely.
I was explaining why HCigar doesn't do business with FT.
I got the story straight from HCigar.
You really shouldn't assume people are ignorant.

 

[VapingTurtle]

Please stop repeating yourself.
I am well aware HCigar doesn't thread tubes.
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Got it; sorry.

 

[Flt Simulation]

I don't think hCigar or FastTech actually owns a factory and makes any of there own clones ... I am thinking that more than likely there is one big factory in China that makes all these clones, and sells them to hCigar, FastTech and all the rest of the companies peddling these fake Mods to the world.

 

[Bad Ninja]

There are tons of factories that make the same style mods.
Fast tech buys from most of them. Lol.

They buy from the manufacturers that can supply them with the style of mod they wish to stock.

HCigar doesn't own a factory, however they do contract manufacturers to build their clones to their specs with heir choice of materials. They are different for another companies mod made by the same manufacturer to their specs.

That's about the simplest way to explain it.

I've had products manufactured in china before.
Chinese manufacturing houses can make anything at any quality level, but higher quality will not come at super cheap cost.

 

[charliehall72]

They do come in a few different types of boxes but if you know for sure that it is not what the seller says it was, ebay has your back and will refund it in full