I got some Tobeco tugboat clones and they are crap, I figured they would be better than the Cigreen I got, but the cigreen tugboat clone I have is amazing and I won't even use these. Sharp edges, smaller airholes, poor finish etc.
I've got a plumeveil clone and it's awesome with the chuff enough top cap but I lost that airflow control.
Do you know if the
hcigar is the updated version (1.5 maybe) as some of the early plume veil clones had post problems but that might have just been aether techs.
I don't know who made my plume veil clone.
Mine is decent enough but I got black and the parts fit too tight because the coating is thicker with the same regular stainless tolerances and everything, so it's hard to separate or adjust the parts.