FDA "Health" Departments all over the country submit identical comments to FDA

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In what appears to be a well-planned and funded campaign by the ANTZ terrorist network, a slew of identical comments has been submitted to FDA by various local and regional "health" departments. These comments peddle the usual ANTZ slurry about flavors, children, and no effective smoking cessation, and strongly endorse the proposed deeming as well as recommend additional onerous propositions to further restrict vaping. Here are a few examples (you can find more with a quick search):

Comment from the San Francisco Department of Public Health
Comment from Kendall County Health Department
Comment from Linn County Public Health
Three Rivers District Health Department
City and County of Denver
Comment from The City of Independence, Missouri Health Department
 

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In what appears to be a well-planned and funded campaign by the ANTZ terrorist network, a slew of identical comments has been submitted to FDA by various local and regional "health" departments. These comments peddle the usual ANTZ slurry about flavors, children, and no effective smoking cessation, and strongly endorse the proposed deeming as well as recommend additional onerous propositions to further restrict vaping. Here are a few examples (you can find more with a quick search):

Comment from the San Francisco Department of Public Health
Comment from Kendall County Health Department
Comment from Linn County Public Health
Three Rivers District Health Department
City and County of Denver
Comment from The City of Independence, Missouri Health Department

"Networking" - they've mastered that skill. Our side..... not so much, but we're working on it. :) They've had about a century's worth of practice starting with the progressive age - the true beginning of 'regulation' in the US.
 

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That's my problem with this whole thing. Public Health departments should pursue the interests of The Public not the special interests of fringe groups or industry (as in tobacco Control Industry). The uncritical parroting of industry messaging by public bodies is not only abhorrently immoral, it is a criminal act. It's fraud, bribery, abuse of power, and gross public health malpractice, indeed it's the attempted murder of 44 million US smokers.
 

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Oh joy. :nah:

Here is an excerpt that proves whoever wrote this document has no idea what he's talking about:

In 2014, Chicago banned the sale of all flavored tobacco products, including e-cigarettes (regulated as tobacco products), within a 500-foot radius of any elementary, middle, or secondary school. Our community continues to examine options for addressing how the harsh flavors of cigarettes can be masked by candy and sweet flavorings. Prior generations became addicted to cigarettes in large numbers despite the harsh taste and difficulty initiating the smoking habit.

They're lumping in e-cigarettes with combustables to such an extent that they assume nicotine liquid also has a "harsh flavor" that needs to be "masked" in order for it to be palatable. Ridiculous.

And of course they say that premium cigars should not be exempt because there's evidence children smoke cigars. Um, I highly doubt that children across the country are going to be picking up expensive premium cigars in record numbers if they are less regulated, nor will they be flocking to buy the latest second generation ego kit for $60 a pop.

Cripe.

I can't help but wonder how many signatories actually read this before signing it...
 

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Excellent post @DrMa. Thank you! I hope the following is OK. I've done a bit of the "grunt work" with detailed contact details including Emails on four of these xxxx!!!! Writing a response at this stage of the day is not my strong point. Maybe someone can compose a short and simple response to use and post same in this thread? See the data at http://www.VapeFight.com/
 

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Thanks for your post, SeniorBoy. I too suspect that the misinformation and propaganda was disseminated thru NACCHO, which possibly ran the entire commenting campaign for the FDA deeming.

BTW, the list of county and city Health boards who submitted these identical comments in the OP is far from complete. I just got tired of copying and pasting after a while... With a few minutes of search&browse on the FDA docket you can uncover dozens, maybe even hundreds of these :facepalm:
 

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If your regional/local health department submitted this ridiculous comment to FDA, you can use this letter to let them have it:


Dear {ADDRESSEE},

I am writing to you in regard to your comment submitted to the FDA in Re: Deeming Tobacco Products To Be Subject to the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, as Amended by the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act; Regulations on the Sale and Distribution of Tobacco Products and Required Warning Statements for Tobacco Products (Docket ID: FDA-2014-N-0189; RIN: 0910-AG38).

This comment appears to be nearly identical to others submitted by many county and city health departments throughout the US. Of greater alarm is the fact that your signature endorses a document that spreads false and misleading claims regarding the contents and risks of electronic vaporizers, also known as electronic cigarettes, or ecigs. I am deeply concerned that public money is being used to further a commercial and political agenda and that a public agency with a moral and legal obligation to protect public health would perpetrate such a malicious act designed to steer smokers away from an alternative that is more than 1000 times safer than combustible tobacco.

The information in the letter you submitted to FDA is, in its entirety, false, being backed up by demonstrated junk science [1] and unsubstantiated propaganda [2] from the tobacco control industry (TCI). It demonstrates malicious and willful ignorance and distinct lack of critical thinking from a public agency with respect to the state of science regarding ecigs. In addition it raises concern than an agency charged with protecting public health is instead pursuing the special interests of fringe groups or industry (as in Tobacco Control Industry). The uncritical parroting of industry messaging by public bodies is not only abhorrently immoral; it is gross public health malpractice with potentially dire consequences for 44 million American smokers.

Please refer to the single most comprehensive review study to date on the risks posed by ecig use published by Burstyn (2013) for an accurate and detailed assessment of the risks of ecigs. This study reviewed more than 9000 observations of the chemistry of ecig aerosol and compared them against worst-case exposure scenarios. The results unequivocally indicate that the vast majority of predicted exposures are <<1% of Threshold Limit Values (TLV) for involuntary workplace exposures. The study concludes that “there was no evidence of potential for exposures of e-cigarette users to contaminants that are associated with risk to health at a level that would warrant attention if it were an involuntary workplace exposures by approaching half of TLV.” And further that “exposures of bystanders are likely to be orders of magnitude less, and thus pose no apparent concern.”

Baseless conjecture spread by TCI and uncritically referenced in your letter alleges that flavors are solely intended to entice children and falsely claim that they cannot possibly be enjoyed by adults. Common sense dictates that such a claim would fail the straight-face test; but, paradoxically, and in spite of the evidence (Farsalinos et al. 2013) it keeps getting parroted by the media, FDA officials, and, now, your letter. The study by Farsalinos et al. (2013) surveyed 4618 participants, more than 90% of which were former smokers. Those surveyed overwhelmingly rated flavors as an important element contributing to their continued use and enjoyment of ecigs. This demonstrates beyond contestation that flavors are an important part of e-cigarettes’ success and pleasure perceived by adult users. This study also shows that flavors are marketed because there is a demand by adult users, and not for enticing children. Considering the fact that adoption of ecigs by youth is minimal and restricted to those who are already smokers (ASH England 2014 and ASH Wales 2014), any regulation that would restrict flavor choice would be inappropriate. It would cause harm to vapers, continued harm to smokers who would be denied the opportunity to switch to much safer ecigs, while no public health benefits would be observed in any other population.

The cost-benefit analysis forwarded by the FDA in regards to the deeming regulations and endorsed by your comment is particularly egregious, because it overweighs hypothetical risks, while discounting real benefits. In a recent commentary, Clive Bates [3] itemizes the risks associated with misguided regulations and quantifies that for every hypothetical risk from vaping, there is a more plausible benefit. These benefits are eloquently quantified by Joel Nitzkin (2014) in a policy study regarding ecigs, which proposes sensible approaches to ecig regulations. Another excellent summary of the risk-benefit proposition of regulating ecigs is presented by Saitta et al. (2014), who also discuss the enormous opportunity for appropriate, fact-based regulations to prevent “much misery and suffering” and save millions of lives.

The results of the Hajek et al. (2014)[4] and Farsalinos and Polosa (2014)[5] independently replicate the systematic review of existing laboratory and clinical research and unanimously conclude that “[c]urrently available evidence indicates that electronic cigarettes are by far a less harmful alternative to smoking and significant health benefits are expected in smokers who switch from tobacco to electronic cigarettes.”[5] Further, they demonstrate that there is no evidence of ecig use by never-smoking adults or youth and that ecigs help smokers quit.[4] These systematic and factual reviews build a compelling case that regulating ecigs as tobacco products is not warranted by the current evidence.

The dismal evaluation of ecigs forming the basis of the proposed deeming regulation – endorsed and repeated in your letter – is constructed entirely of deprecated information, inaccuracies, and prejudice. Virtually every assertion made in the document uncritically parrots unsubstantiated propaganda from TCI. FDA’s review of the literature suspiciously ignores the fact that all the hypothetical risks and malicious fear mongering advanced by TCI have been thoroughly debunked [6][7][8]. You should be aware that Drs. Farsalinos and Polosa are currently preparing the publication of another critique of TCI propaganda [9], which should dispel any shadow of a doubt that publications from TCI regarding ecigs are nothing more than academic misconduct and conflicted junk science and cannot be allowed to influence public health decisions.

Finally, Zyoud et al. (2014) searched for all available peer-reviewed literature on the subject of ecigs and retrieved 356 documents, among which 31.5% were original journal articles, 16% letters to the editor, 7.9% review articles, and 44.6% documents that were classified as other types of publications. The retrieved documents were published in 162 peer-reviewed journals, by scientists from 27 countries. All 356 documents discussed by Zyoud et al (2014) should be mandatory reading for any professional and/or regulator with a serious and honest commitment to disseminate accurate information, improve public health, and reduce smoking rate. All ought to be critically reviewed, referenced, and thoroughly discussed by any evidence-based information campaign published by a public agency. The critical review ought to be performed by qualified, impartial scientists with the motivation and ability to distinguish slanted junk science and deceptive inference from rigorous studies employing the scientific method, using appropriate analyses, and coming to defensible conclusions. None of these appear to apply to the letter you sent to FDA.

This kind of misinformation and propaganda do not reflect well on a public health agency. Please initiate an investigation into the persons intellectually responsible for the uncritical acceptance of junk science and shameless promotion of industry interests at the expense of public health, as they have no place in a department charged with protecting public health or the general interests of The Public.

References:
[1] http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2014/05/glantz-review-article-is-little-more.html
[2] http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2014/03/new-study-on-electronic-cigarettes-by.html
[3] http://www.clivebates.com/?p=2257#more-2257
[4] Hajek et al. (2014): http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/add.12659/abstract
[5] Farsalinos and Polosa (2014): http://taw.sagepub.com/content/5/2/67
[6] http://mic.com/articles/87901/despite-the-alarming-studies-e-cigarettes-are-a-win-for-public-health
[7] http://online.wsj.com/articles/michael-b-siegel-the-e-cigarette-gateway-myth-1407283557
[8] Farsalinos KE, Polosa R. Youth tobacco use and electronic cigarettes. JAMA Pediatr. 2014 Aug 1;168(8):775. doi:10.1001/jamapediatrics.2014.727; http://archpedi.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1890731
[9] http://www.ecigarette-research.com/web/index.php/2013-04-07-09-50-07/2014/169-ecig-review
Joel Nitzkin (2014) http://www.rstreet.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/RSTREET25.pdf
Saitta et al. (2014)http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3926346/
ASH Wales (2014): http://www.ashwales.org.uk/creo_files/upload/downloads/young_people_and_e-cigarettes_in_wales_final_march_2014.pdf
ASH England (2014): http://www.ash.org.uk/files/documents/ASH_891.pdf
Burstyn (2013): http://publichealth.drexel.edu/~/media/files/publichealth/ms08.pdf
Farsalinos et al. (2013): http://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/10/12/7272
Zyoud et al. (2014): http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1471-2458-14-667.pdf
 

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I just ran a cursory search of comments from health departments in my state. I have yet to find any identical to the one in this thread, but they are equally bad... it looks like I have some work to do :(

What I find the most interesting is that all of these anti comments completely ignore the fact that the deeming regulations as they are currently written will actually eliminate most e-cigarette businesses. They "applaud" flavor restrictions and banning sales to minors, yet overlook the fact that so many businesses will be wiped out that none of these restrictions will matter much anyway! I'm not sure if they are simply unaware (i.e. haven't read the deeming) or if they are and are ignoring it to suit their own agenda. My bet is that it's a mixture of both.

My top priority in my next round of letter writing will be to inform each of these commenters what the deeming regulations will actually do to businesses, and I urge others to do the same.

Ignorance is only bliss for the ignorant.
 

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DrMA wrote:
I too suspect that the misinformation and propaganda was disseminated thru NACCHO

Agreed. NACCHO and ASTHO (for state health departments) jumped on the e-cig banwagon several years ago, and they endorse most laws/regulations lobbied for by Big Pharma funded CTFK/ACS/AHA/ALA.

The folks at NACCHO and ASTHO used to listen to me on various legislative issues (10-25 years ago), but not during the past decade.
 
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