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Cully84

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Hello new vapers. I'm Cully. Been vaping a Blu for about 2 months or so now. Liked it a lot when I got the original kit - with the original flavors (java jolt and vanilla, in particular were very good). For those that do not already know, they have recently changed to a cartomizer system, as opposed to the more versatile 3 piece design, which did at least allow you to mod the carts with foam and refill them with 3rd party purchased liquid of your choice. This is no longer the case. Cartomizers (cartridge and atomizer sealed together in one piece) are quite a bit more of a pain to refill, although it can be done.

Since my purchase - like several others I've read about on this forum - I've done a LOT of research and a bit of tinkering with my device and have discovered some things that I believe would be helpful to share. So, here's some things I've found:

The Blu ecig is classified differently on different sites. It's referred to as a mini, super-mini, or micro ecig, depending on the site you visit. These, to me, are rather vague classifications and have been very little help in finding out what is compatible with what.

SO. Here's some FACTS that may help, in terms of model numbers and compatibilities:

The Blu is a L88B model (which actually refers to the battery part of the ecig). It has an UNsealed, UNprotected, automatic draw (meaning it fires up the atomizer when you draw on it, as opposed to pressing a button to activate the atomizer when you want to take a hit) There are a couple of up-sides to this. You can vape without needing a hand to do so, and it's fairly convenient to just pick up your ecig and draw on it...and voila, you're vaping. It does have some drawbacks, as well, however. NOT a good idea to drip with it, unless you have a very steady hand. Since the battery is unseald...it can gunk it up and leave you with a battery that won't function properly if you're not extremely careful. Also, wind can cause it to fire that atomizer when your not drawing in a hit, as can pushing in or taking out carts.

Moving on to some other things...

There are several other ecigs that are out there that I've found that appear to be compatible. The Blu takes a 306 OR 510 atomizer/cartridge size. The 306 is what comes with it, and is tiny, and in my opinion, not worth trying to refill with eliquid. Others out there disagree, and have done fine with a simple blue foam mod - personally tried it, and had some success - but, I reccommend getting a low resistance (commonly called an LR) 510-size atomizer for your blu and grabbing some smartcarts for it. (basically turning your tiny little mini-cig into a much more versatile 510-based device, with tanks that will fit it) As far as refilling carts...the blue foam mod works fairly well with PG (propylene glycol - the thinner kind) eliquid, but if you get yourself the smartcarts, as I did, that fit the 510 atomizer, the polyfill that comes in the carts in the top of the cap works pretty well at wicking the thicker VG (thicker, more flavorful, produces more vapor - vegetable glycerin) eliquid for your 510 to vape pretty consistantly. A word of caution, though. The largest shortcoming of the Blu is the already-short battery life, and the slightly larger 510 atomizers will eat thru your batteries even faster. So, just keep that PCC (the electronic pack that came with it) handy to keep that other battery charged all the time. I've tested it out, and it'll get the job done before you manage to kill the full battery.

So, to summarize:

Blu is not bad to start with, though there are others that will produce more vapor, more consistantly with quite a bit less hassle. But if you are informed =) you can make it work pretty well.

Blue model = L88B
STOCK cart (AND atomizer) size = 306
Other atomizer(s) that fit the threads on it = 510 atomizer
SO...anything - ANYTHING - with a 510 atomizer thread on it...SHOULD fit the Blu's threads on it's battery.
Known compatible carts/atomizers:
* Joye 306
* Blu
* Dura/eGo
* xpower650Smoore xpower650
* xpower900Smoore xpower900
* Titan/Tornado
* Yeti
* KR808A
* KR808B
* Sidesho
* Magma
* Inferno
* Vapor King
* Luci
* L88b
* T-Rex
Also, be aware that there are several sites that offer adapters that will turn the 306/510 (same threads) female threads of the L88B battery into a larger thread, if you wish to use larger carts/tanks. These sites are mentioned all over the forum if you search for e-cig "adapters."

So, first thing you should do is get yourself some good VG eliquid from any of the great sites mention on this forum, grab a 20 gauge syringe (can usually be bought on the same sites as the atomizers), get some smartcarts (little tanks that'll hold slightly less then 1mL of eliquid - these ONLY fit the 510 atomizer), and 2 or 3 size 510 attomizers. And get ready to do a lot of battery recharging.

Couple more pieces of important advice: the PCC (portable charging case) is great...but you MUST monitor the light on it when you are charging a battery. There is an automated failsafe function built into it that will DRAIN BOTH THE BATTERY AND THE PACK down to empty if you do not monitor it and unscrew the battery when it is done charging it. This doesn't seem to be an issue if you just use the usb chargers to charge the pack or battery directly. To hopefully make things a little easier on you, I have timed the charging of the batteries, both USB and in the charging pack. It seems like charging the batteries directly via usb is pretty quick. About 20 to 30 minutes and it's ready to go. Using the pack to charge the batteries while you're on the go takes a little longer. Anywhere from 30 to 45 minutes, depending on how much charge is left IN the pack and how drained the ecig battery is. SO. Set urself a timer or something and start checking that pack after about 30 minutes. The light on it will go out when it senses it's charged the ecig battery all the way...but after a few seconds, that system inside it will start to drain a little of that charge away. The first time the light goes off (meaning the ecig is done charging), it'll only be off for a second or two. And, then the light will come back on to charge what it just drained away. Then it'll turn off for a little bit longer (draining a little more of the ecig battery this time). This pattern will continue to repeat, with the light staying off - and draining your ecig - longer each time. So, you're going to want to wait until you see the charging light come BACK on...wait a few seconds till JUST after it turns off again. This will ensure you have a full charge (and the pack has no time to start draining it away again) at the moment you unscrew your battery. Many people were very confused by this light-on, light-off, charging thing. I hope this makes it a little clearer what is happening and why it keeps coming back on to charge again. It IS for safety sake (ie: so the battery won't burn out/start a fire) that they put this failsafe in place. So, although you can't just screw ur batt into the pack and go to bed...you should still be able to use the USB chargers that come with it to do it that way. It doesn't SEEM as though the same failsafe was necessary with the direct wall/usb chargers. It seems as though the current is cut off when it senses the device is charged, when using these wired chargers. So, if you wanna charge when you go to bed, do it this way.

Last piece of advice is that I have not tried the "eGo-T" (tank system) atomizers (or, "tankomizers" as some are calling them) with their cool little spike that just punches a hole thru the tanks and makes direct contact with the eliquid, eliminating the need for ANY polyfill or foam at all. But...if my reasoning is correct, the 510 threads should still match up and it should work.

I will be checking this out over the next month or two. And, I'll post any updates on whether these work out ok with the Blu (L88B) or not.

I hope I have not violated any TOS with my first post. I just wanted to share my experience with others so it may make their lives easier. Feel free to correct me if I have made any mistaken claims here. I am, after all, new. But, I'm fairly confident of the validity of my info. :)
 

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I have had my Blu pack for almost a year now. You can direct drip on the atty, I do it ALL the time, clean the atty FREQUENTLY! I cleaned mine every single night, they last MUCH longer. Do NOT charge the pack via USB, this blew out my motherboard. I saved all my old plastic carts, pull out the little tube inside & replaced that batting with my own juice, still have to drop a drop directly on the atty for the best vapor....few drops right after cleaning. I dry burn them too..

As for monitoring, timing, etc...I did/do not have the same experience. I did have an issue where I though the charger wasn't working right, but it needed a full overnight charge w/o a battery in it to get it going right again (I have 2 pack chargers, so one was always on the charger while the other travelled with me).

I now have an eGo, all the blu attys are compatible with it, I was one who sent attys back every time I had an issue, so I have a good supply. The Blu does not compare to the eGo, but the blu is still great for doing projects that you need both hands & you want to hold it in your mouth, so I'm just not ready to pass the kit on yet...though in a month I might change my mind on that. All the pricing went up this year, and the carto change was not for the better IMO, but tis ok, it got me to the eGo & it was time.
 

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Last piece of advice is that I have not tried the "eGo-T" (tank system) atomizers (or, "tankomizers" as some are calling them) with their cool little spike that just punches a hole thru the tanks and makes direct contact with the eliquid, eliminating the need for ANY polyfill or foam at all. But...if my reasoning is correct, the 510 threads should still match up and it should work.

Although I do direct drip, I would not use a tank on this battery , I would only use it on a manual battery.
 

Cully84

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lol Thanx for the replies so quickly. =) And, thank you for the added info.

I particularly appreciate the comment about using a tank with an auto-battery like I've got with the Blu. I hadn't really thought about the possibility of floodin into the batt using a tank style system. I suppose I was assuming that the the 510-thread attys for the eGO-T would be set up to prevent leaking thru to the batt...but then, the eGO is a manual batt...so I suppose that's where the protection comes in, huh?

Note: For those that don't know, a manual battery has a level of protection to it that an automatically activated (as you draw on it) battery - like the L88B - does not have. These automatic batts - according to several forums - are very easy to clog up if you're not careful when dripping. - But, as meems has demonstrated, can certainly be done.

Also, just to differentiate between dripping and refilling a cart...dripping means to drip directly onto the atomizer or bridge (the little bridge-shaped part of an atomizer), one or two drops at a time to get sort of a "direct" vape. Refilling cartridges, cartomizers, and tanks is an entirely different thing altogether. Just so you don't get them confused. I didn't understand this when I first started readin up on ecigs.

And, meens...did you snap that bridge off when you were dripping? And, whether u did or didn't...do you know why there are so many vids on how to do so? Is it just a more direct way to drip, rather than relying on the wicking power of the steel wool bridge...er...? Just curious. I have these smartcarts and a 510 atty that together produce pretty consistant big ol' clouds of vape when I use em. I'm totally spoiled to the lil 306 carts now. lol No throat hit to em at all compared to the 510/smartcart combo. Only thing I think I goofed up on is that I stuck to Johnson Creek vanilla...thinking it would match that nice vanilla flavor that Blu use to sell. Which, I now know to be something they ONLY sold to Blu thru contract...and was 100 percent vegetable glycerin. The stuff they have on JC's site is evidently all PG (or mostly PG blend) and isn't NEARLY as flavorful. So, I think I'll be gettin myself some 100% VG vanilla (amongh other flavors...like dreamsicle lol) from juicyvapor.com or someplace of the like.

Heh. Yeah. I guess I am kinda passionate about this. ;) I guess I really like to help people. And, I know the more info I put in one spot...the easier it'll be to find via a search engine like Google. And, if they're like me...they know they can just Ctrl+F (find on the page) to quickly get to the info they want to know. And, skip all my other babblings. lol
 

Cully84

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I assume you are referring to the Vaporkings.com "Vapor King" which is a 510? (Not the better known Vapor4Life VaporKing which is a KR808D-1)

You should get 5 posts and wait an hour and post this in the Blue Model-specific subforum


And, yes dormouse. I was referring to the less popular vaporkings.com 510-based e-cig. That's kinda my purpose of posting this, is to show the many lesser known compatibilities with these lil mini-ecigs.

And, I will certainly repost this there after a while.
 

Cully84

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Very informative... appreciate your time writting this

Well, sure. I've been so excited about gettin away from analogues (I like to sing and promised myself I'd quit as soon as I felt it noticeably affecting my lung capacity...and it'd gotten to the point where I was a lil winded walkin back and forth to the store..and I couldn't have that) and my family is gettin tired of hearing about them. lol My wife and roommate both smoke analogues, still. lol But, I've started to get the hang of this vapin thing and am really interested in spreadin the word about it.
 

Cully84

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I also forgot to mention that if you use PG (thinner, propylene glycol) eliquid, and you use foam or polyfill in any of your carts, you will definitely want a denser (more) of that filler in those carts so that the thinner liquid does not leak out. It takes less filler (foam or polyfill) to hold in the thicker, usually more flavorful VG (vegetable glycerin) eliquid. It's own viscosity (thickness) keeps it together inside the carts, whereas the the thinner PG eliquid tends slip in, around, and right thru the pores in the filler very easily if you don't get it packed in there enough. - Thought I'd add this tip.
 

Cully84

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LoL.... MATE.... my friends and family ask me am i on comission from e-cig companies cause i wont shut up or stop talking about them or trying to convert analogue smokers to e-cigs. And im now onto researching VG as opposed to the PG juices ive recently ordered.

Keep the manuals comming bud

Heh. Glad I'm not the only one. lol
 

Cully84

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Cully, I just drop right onto the bridge for my Blu attys.

Thank u for clarifying. I'd heard it's sometimes easier if the bridge is removed. Forms more of a "cup" in the atty to drip into/onto. But, I imagine with the auto-batt on the Blu, it may not be as good an idea. The bridge would probably help to keep it out of that batt.
 
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