Hello, guy newish to vaping, question about CoolFire 4 TC100

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prmeth3us

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Hi there,

For the ones that want the short and sweet version, here it is: What is/are the safe ways to charge the Innokin CoolFire 4 TC100? Can I charge from any computer USB port? And although a 2 amp charger is recommended, could I use a 2.1/2.4 amp charger with it?

The slightly longer version: So firstly, for those who want the full story, let me first say hello as I just joined the forums, so hi :)! I've been a 1 to 2 packs a day guy for about 7 years and although I've had many attempts at quitting cigarettes, I always bounced back :( Main reason being that the e-cigs I've had before just didn't quite do it for me. I've had cigalikes, and the standard 20 dollar vape pens that you can find everywhere, I think I had one from joyetech, and the farthest I've gotten before was using a Kanger Protank but seeing as I was still using the cheapo batteries, it didn't do much for me.

So now I'm trying to quit again and I decided to step things up a notch. I've done some research the past few days and today I purchased my first mod/box or w.e. the correct terminology is for a CoolFire4 TC100. Pretty excited about it and so far it's worked wonders, I'm really liking it!

One issue. I'm slightly paranoid and the media isn't helping. I've read up on the bad press on e cigarettes and I've realized most of it is just people being stupid but that said, I'm still paranoid. I've read the entire manual for my new CoolFire kit and oh boy, is the safety precautions list huge. I mean WOW.

So I've come to the dilemma mentioned above. I realize that the LiPo in the CoolFire needs to be treated really nicely and I REALLY don't want to do anything stupid to it so the question once again, as above, is how do I safely charge this thing? Can I charge from any computer and can I use any high quality charger? That is to say, assuming the wall charger is of high quality, can I use any amperage charger? To my knowledge, devices these days only use the amperage that they need even if more is available, however I'm not sure about ecigarettes (i.e. the CoolFire 4).

Please advise. All help is highly appreciated and apologies for the humongous post. For those who read it all, I applaud you!
 

GBalkam

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Easy answer. You can use the USB port on any computer. They are limited and regulated by the power supply circuits. You can use the charger that came with it. And don't use anything except those. Just because a USB cord will fit, doesn't mean it is safe. Ipad chargers are a HARD NO! Basically, computer is ok, included charger is ok, anything else.. not worth the risk. That doesn't have what we consider a "GOOD" battery. Probably a factory 2nd at best.

When you have to replace to battery, I would suggest going with a mod that has a removable battery. Since you can have 1 or 2 in the mod and 1 or 2 on the charger.
AND only buy Sony, Samsung or LG High Drain batteries. Most regulated mods work well with 2000 to 3000mah. The higher the mah the longer you can vape without recharging. Samsung 25R is a good battery for most regulated mod users. Avoid rebranded such as nitecore batteries. Nitecore chargers are very very good.. the batteries.. not so much.
 

prmeth3us

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Thanks for the reply :) At least I have the computer USB ports as an option but the problem is this. It only comes with a micro USB cable, that's it. And I can't seem to find any Innokin branded wall charger. According to their manual, and I quote, they say: "Use only CE/UL/FCC certified, high quality and genuine chargers". They only mention not to use car chargers and not to use cheap wall chargers. And they say that it could be charged with a 2 amp current. That said, my Samsung charger puts out that exact amperage, so would it not be safe to use it?

Also regarding getting mods with removable batteries, from my understanding most bad press has involved those batteries being improperly handled. I don't think I'm ready for that kind of responsibility yet.
 

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Welcome :)

I don't charge anything e-cig using a computer usb port. It might work but it's going to take a long, long time and last time I looked, even USB 3.0 couldn't do the job at decent speed for a Li-po battery mod.

I use a 2.0amp 5v wall adapter (high quality with UK certification marks) and the cables that come the mod. You don't need an Innokin wall adapter, you just need a wall adapter that isn't junk.

There is a lot of gossip about batteries and charging, Li-pos and Li-ions. This stuff is very safe statistically but people do too many stupid things.
Removable IMR 18650 batteries are very safe indeed if you treat them with a little respect. It's not a roulette of responsibility... it really isn't.
 
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GBalkam

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Also regarding getting mods with removable batteries, from my understanding most bad press has involved those batteries being improperly handled. I don't think I'm ready for that kind of responsibility yet.

no worries. if you want a bunch more details just ask. We won't steer you wrong. Just make sure you charge your mod properly, and follow the safety instruction on the little booklet or web site. One thing, is you won't see anyone giving you information that could harm you, even if you beg for it. LOL.

By the way, any battery will cause issues when improperly handled. One big difference is, that with a recommended removable battery, we know what will happen if something goes wrong. With an internal battery, since we don't know what is in there, we really can't tell you what will happen. I don't want to tell you what to use, so don't misunderstand. I will say the batteries we recommend are top of the line and we know how they will act if they get shorted or damaged. For example, and unknown battery will likely go boom if something goes wrong, top quality batteries will normally get hot and vent gas until they discharge to 0 volts. See, we like the control over our mods that the removable batteries give.

Again, i don't want to tell you what to use, but didn't want you basing your choices on idiots on new casts. Like you wouldn't stick a fork in a light socket, but changing a light bulb is pretty safe. Those people in the news casts are the ones with the forks.
 

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Welcome :)

I don't charge anything e-cig using a computer usb port. It might work but it's going to take a long, long time and last time I looked, even USB 3.0 couldn't do the job at decent speed for a Li-po battery mod.

I use a 2.0amp 5v wall adapter (high quality with UK certification marks) and the cables that come the mod. You don't need an Innokin wall adapter, you just need a wall adapter that isn't junk.

There is a lot of gossip about batteries and charging, Li-pos and Li-ions. This stuff is very safe statistically but people do too many stupid things.
Removable IMR 18650 batteries are very safe indeed if you treat them with a little respect. It's not a roulette of responsibility... it really isn't.
lol I was trying to say that without telling the OP what to use or not to use. I found my vplum (1000mah) took about 3 hours to charge on my computer usb. Until i got the mod with removable batteries, I kept having to take it off the USB, vape, and put it back on to finish charging. Which sucks, since I don't sleep straight through. Only 3 or 4 hours at a time.
 

prmeth3us

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Thanks for the reply guys/gal. I'll make sure to use a high quality charger only at the correct amperage then :) And I got the feeling that removable batteries were preferred from my local vape shop guy as well, I just don't want to dive in too deep too fast. Having only ever used the cheapo kits before, I figured the CoolFire 4 was a good step forward. Chances are if it keeps me quitting(which it looks like it will), I'll upgrade again later.

Thanks again, I feel much more at ease now :)
 

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Hi there,

For the ones that want the short and sweet version, here it is: What is/are the safe ways to charge the Innokin CoolFire 4 TC100? Can I charge from any computer USB port? And although a 2 amp charger is recommended, could I use a 2.1/2.4 amp charger with it?
The slightly longer version: So firstly, for those who want the full story, let me first say hello as I just joined the forums, so hi :)! I've been a 1 to 2 packs a day guy for about 7 years and although I've had many attempts at quitting cigarettes, I always bounced back :( Main reason being that the e-cigs I've had before just didn't quite do it for me. I've had cigalikes, and the standard 20 dollar vape pens that you can find everywhere, I think I had one from Joyetech, and the farthest I've gotten before was using a Kanger Protank but seeing as I was still using the cheapo batteries, it didn't do much for me.
So now I'm trying to quit again and I decided to step things up a notch. I've done some research the past few days and today I purchased my first mod/box or w.e. the correct terminology is for a CoolFire4 TC100. Pretty excited about it and so far it's worked wonders, I'm really liking it!
One issue. I'm slightly paranoid and the media isn't helping. I've read up on the bad press on e cigarettes and I've realized most of it is just people being stupid but that said, I'm still paranoid. I've read the entire manual for my new CoolFire kit and oh boy, is the safety precautions list huge. I mean WOW.
So I've come to the dilemma mentioned above. I realize that the LiPo in the CoolFire needs to be treated really nicely and I REALLY don't want to do anything stupid to it so the question once again, as above, is how do I safely charge this thing? Can I charge from any computer and can I use any high quality charger? That is to say, assuming the wall charger is of high quality, can I use any amperage charger? To my knowledge, devices these days only use the amperage that they need even if more is available, however I'm not sure about ecigarettes (i.e. the CoolFire 4).
Please advise. All help is highly appreciated and apologies for the humongous post. For those who read it all, I applaud you!
Welcome and glad you joined. Best advice I can give is follow exactly the recommended manufacturers specifications on how to charge and treat your device.
Please do not try to save money and service your device cheaply no matter what others say. This is an area where you can ruin your device not to mention burning the house down.
Might like to read:
18650 Battery Buying Guide for Vapor Users – Wake and Vape Blog
(9) Battery Basics for Mods; the Ultimate Battery Guide | E-Cigarette Forum
(12) Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries - Part I | E-Cigarette Forum
Battery Safety: Will You Marry Me? - Mt Baker Vapor
 

djsvapour

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Thanks for the reply guys/gal. I'll make sure to use a high quality charger only at the correct amperage then :) And I got the feeling that removable batteries were preferred from my local vape shop guy as well, I just don't want to dive in too deep too fast. Having only ever used the cheapo kits before, I figured the CoolFire 4 was a good step forward. Chances are if it keeps me quitting(which it looks like it will), I'll upgrade again later.

Thanks again, I feel much more at ease now :)

The Coolfire 4 is a great mod and the 'other' Coolfire 4-series mod that uses replaceable batteries (is that yours?) is also excellent.
When I go to my beach house (sounds glamorous but not really :eek:) 95% of all the vapers there use Coolfires as that's what the vape shop sells to everyone who wants something more than a 'pen' style eGo battery.
People love them. I've only heard 1 bad story of it not lasting long.
 

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The Coolfire 4 is a great mod and the 'other' Coolfire 4-series mod that uses replaceable batteries (is that yours?) is also excellent.

After nearly 3 years my wife finally decided to give up her SVD 2.0 and get a new mod. She got the Coolfire 4 18650 and loves it.
 
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First off yes your Samsung is fine any wall wart that puts out 2 amps or more is fine. I would look for something with a little higher amp rating like 2.5 or so down the road little less stress on it. I think you are going about it the right way for now read and study for now and read mooch's battery test before you buy any removable battery mods that way you'll know what batteries to buy. Also read badatude's blogs good battery info there and links to mooch's tests.
 
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